One of the best reasons to turn away the caravan people

Many might say that the life blood of our nation is immigration or at least it is a vibrant tributary to the nation. If you ask many of the immigrants if they are proud to be an immigrant, naturalized citizen and/or eventually an "American" (USA), most all say they are glad and happy with their choice. Only when they fall foul of the law do they ever speak poorly of the country. Employers also gladly hire legal immigrants and it is good for the economy.

Allowing these mob of law breakers into the country who are in the process of breaking the immigration law is a slap in the face to all those legal immigrants who are in the country legally and those who went through the process in the proper manner. It cheapens what they went through to get here - which is why many if not most legal immigrants have a negative view of illegals (either current or "in process" illegals).

Saying that there aren't many other great reasons to turn away these people would be untrue but we have heard most of the reasons of which setting a precedent is a key issue - both for future caravans and that they will be rewarded for ignoring or breaking the law.


What do you liberals have to say about all the people who did it legally. I know some of you support the "participation trophy for all" ideal, but this is real life. Would you feel good if you worked hard to make a team, get into a school, etc and they turned around and let other's in just because they cried louder than you? Would that cheapen your degree or membership to the team?

originally posted by: DigginFoTroof
Employers also gladly hire legal immigrants and it is good for the economy.

Who's economy is it good for?

originally posted by: DigginFoTroof

What do you liberals have to say about all the people who did it legally.

Spoiler alert: they couldn't care less.

They just want their side to win, no matter what or whoever gets hurt.

a reply to: DigginFoTroof

How could you turn away these fine new American's?

I don't get it.
If your country is so bad, that your leaving it, wanting to get into another country, why are you carrying that countries flag? Doesn't that mean your proud of it?
Then why are you leaving it?

I’m liberal. And I’m also against illegal immigration. However, I’m also well versed in history, and therefore realize that the reason there is so much illegal immigration is because us govt and companies regularly destroy the economies of South America through economic and political espionage, as well as practices like flooding their markets with subsidized grains and produce, which puts their farmers and workers out of business, so that we can swoop in and steal their farms and lands for pennies on the dollar.

Similar to the immigration in Europe due to us destroying the Middle East, we are largely the cause of the miserable lives south of the border. Ergo we do have some responsibility for the situation these people are in. This point of view does give me sympathy for their plight. Somewhat of a tit for tat thing.... we destroyed their economies in their homes, overthrew their democratically elected leaders to install our favored dictators and corporate puppets, took away any hope for a better life for them. Why shouldn’t they come here, undercut our working class wages, and damage the hopes of the us working poor for a better future?

Sadly, regardless of how justified they may be, the ones who will never be effected by this, just as in our wars of aggression, are those heads of commerce and govt who actually implemented these policies. This wouldn’t be the case if the us citizens were not a neutered electoral body, but that’s the real world.

a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Imagine all the needy Americans we could help, with all the resources that will be needed to manage this situation.

a reply to: o0oTOPCATo0o
We don’t care about needy Americans and our govt wouldn’t spend that money on them even without the caravan. Just like there was no windfall of military savings after the Cold War ended. This is why the bailout happened. This is why they cut corporate taxes last year, and now they want to gank social security.

a reply to: chiefsmom

You gotta represent.

A standard-bearer is a person (soldier or civilian) who bears an emblem called a standard, i.e. either a type of flag or an inflexible but mobile image, which is used (and often honoured) as a formal, visual symbol of a state, prince, military unit, etc.

This can either be an occasional duty, often seen as an honour (especially on parade), or a permanent charge (also on the battlefield); the second type has even led in certain cases to this task being reflected in official rank titles such as Ensign and Cornet. en.wikipedia.org...

Reppin' the H-O-N yo!

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

And with about 80% being men of fighting age!
It's not about immigration,it's an invasion!

Seriously guys, this caravan is NOT getting into America, we have laws in place already. How could we possibly let these people in when we know exactly where they are at all times. It is nothing more than a stunt to galvanize people one way or the other before midterms. It's blatantly obvious that this is not a natural occurrence for organized by someone or a group of people.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Earlier this year when the 'first' big one was the hot press, and national guard were deployed over it, shortly after the libs went out of their collectivist minds about the babies they themselves had encouraged parents to bring along, and got the troops pulled away.

Now today a man died already, a cat5 hurricane heading towards them, 7200+ strong, Halloween + election time no less... oh my what they have in their bag of tricks this time to soften up the border for them......

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I had forgotten about a hurricane hitting that area.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

So you're telling me that this caravan of 7,000 people with nowhere to take cover is going to survive this hurricane better than a border? Cameras are all over them, how could we possibly lose them? We'll know exactly where they are.

Openly carrying a foreign flag, and saying we owe them something?

Damn skippie it's an invasion.

And deserves a full military response.(well measured).

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Seriously guys, this caravan is NOT getting into America, we have laws in place already. How could we possibly let these people in when we know exactly where they are at all times. It is nothing more than a stunt to galvanize people one way or the other before midterms. It's blatantly obvious that this is not a natural occurrence for organized by someone or a group of people.

oh these hombres finna get in

we best start shooting now

Trump needs to be the president of all of North America Mexico and Canada included. Then we can see open borders he would get on top of the drugs from Mexico and overthrow that moron Traudau. Everyone wants to come here anyway.

originally posted by: DigginFoTroof
Many might say that the life blood of our nation is immigration or at least it is a vibrant tributary to the nation. If you ask many of the immigrants if they are proud to be an immigrant, naturalized citizen and/or eventually an "American" (USA), most all say they are glad and happy with their choice. Only when they fall foul of the law do they ever speak poorly of the country. Employers also gladly hire legal immigrants and it is good for the economy.

Allowing these mob of law breakers into the country who are in the process of breaking the immigration law is a slap in the face to all those legal immigrants who are in the country legally and those who went through the process in the proper manner. It cheapens what they went through to get here - which is why many if not most legal immigrants have a negative view of illegals (either current or "in process" illegals).

Saying that there aren't many other great reasons to turn away these people would be untrue but we have heard most of the reasons of which setting a precedent is a key issue - both for future caravans and that they will be rewarded for ignoring or breaking the law.


What do you liberals have to say about all the people who did it legally. I know some of you support the "participation trophy for all" ideal, but this is real life. Would you feel good if you worked hard to make a team, get into a school, etc and they turned around and let other's in just because they cried louder than you? Would that cheapen your degree or membership to the team?

I lean liberal. I fully support legal immigration, and I am against illegal immigration.

HOWEVER, what they are doing isn't illegal. They are in no way trying to sneak over the border. There are thousands of people marching towards our border, how on earth are they going to sneak through?

This is what is actually happening:

They are seeking asylum. They have left their home countries as political refugees and are seeking shelter from their countries in another country.
That is 100% legal to do, and when they reach the border they are entitled, by law, to have an asylum hearing. Absolutely nothing illegal is occurring in regards to them coming to the US to ask for asylum. I can't say that conclusively about them being in Mexico, as I don't know Mexico's laws, but it is definitely not illegal for them to come to our country to ask for shelter. Folks saying to stop at nothing to turn them away are fundamentally anti-American in that belief. Our founding fathers were essentially asylum seekers.

As for people saying, "if you're leaving your country why are you carrying the flag?" It's very possible to love the idea of something, while not loving the folks in charge of the "idea".
Example: I love my country, the USA (I'm not proud, love and pride are different things). I look at the flag as a symbol of where I'm from, and I love where I'm from. But, I can't stand the government running our country, and would never fly the flag to show love for our government.

These people love their countries. They are fleeing from their governments, not their countries.

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Seriously guys, this caravan is NOT getting into America, we have laws in place already. How could we possibly let these people in when we know exactly where they are at all times. It is nothing more than a stunt to galvanize people one way or the other before midterms. It's blatantly obvious that this is not a natural occurrence for organized by someone or a group of people.

oh these hombres finna get in

we best start shooting now

You even allowed to own a gun legally?

originally posted by: Lysergic

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Seriously guys, this caravan is NOT getting into America, we have laws in place already. How could we possibly let these people in when we know exactly where they are at all times. It is nothing more than a stunt to galvanize people one way or the other before midterms. It's blatantly obvious that this is not a natural occurrence for organized by someone or a group of people.

oh these hombres finna get in

we best start shooting now

You even allowed to own a gun legally?

you want my social too?

the hell kind of question is that?