Oklahoma just passed a law to require all state officials to call abortion murder

In any public statements state officials are now required to refer to abortion as murder.

I think this may back fire by upsetting the independents but only time will tell

LINK

Happy Halloween muahahahaha!

originally posted by: BlackJackal
In any public statements state officials are now required to refer to abortion as murder.

I think this may back fire by upsetting the independents but only time will tell

LINK

from article / link to article:

As a simple resolution, HR 1004 is considered a statement of policy and does not carry the weight of law.

election year rhetoric

😎

Fun fact about Oklahoma.

It was the only state that Obama didnt win one county in. Either election.

You guys like them sooners better now huh?

originally posted by: BlackJackal
In any public statements state officials are now required to refer to abortion as murder.

I think this may back fire by upsetting the independents but only time will tell

LINK

I don't know if I am understanding this correctly.

Abortion in Oklahoma is legal under United States law, subject to the US Supreme Court decisions of Roe v. Wade (1973),[1] and Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992). In accordance with Planned Parenthood v. Casey, states cannot place legal restrictions posing an undue burden for "the purpose or effect of placing a substantial obstacle in the path of a woman seeking an abortion of a nonviable fetus."[2]

If I am reading this correctly.

Oklahoma Republicans pass bill requiring state officials to call abortion ‘murder’ in public statements

I think they made murder legal. If they call it murder and it is still legal, what else could it be?

It does violate the 1st.
This moron is just a bad Republican.

May he get voted out ASAP

a reply to: BlackJackal

I'm kinda on the side of this being a stupid law. I generally consider myself prolife and my fiance generally considers herself prochoice. We had a lengthy discussion about it and found we agreed on pretty much everything. As in, it's murder if it's not necessary but there are special cases for sure. How to legislate that is what should be debated, rather than bickering extreme this or extreme that.

God I hate the abortion debate. I understand both sides, and I believe there's logical common ground. Each side are so unwilling to talk it's just annoying at this point.

But yeah, stupid law.

And screw the Sooners. (Had to say it, lol)

If bald old men can't tell women how to treat their bodies...who can?

a reply to: BlackJackal

Nothing like focusing on the real issues that plague this country. Good job Republicans!

originally posted by: olaru12
If bald old men can't tell women how to treat their bodies...who can?

Angry slutty women?

a reply to: BlackJackal

Innocent and pure HUMAN, unless proven there is no soul present. To kill him/her is indeed murder.

Vast majority of the Okies I have met are awesome folks... also the vast majority of okies I have met think our state representation sucks balls.
Problem being how do you break the strangle hold by the republicans when the democrat candidates are every bit as bad as the republican so folks get caught in the devil you know issue.

a reply to: carewemust

That's how I feel, but I do understand things like if the woman's life is in jeopardy. Or if they're raped, especially in a case of incest. But I believe those special cases are what should be up for debate, not these all-or-nothing causes.

Dang .
An opinion piece with absolutely NO original wording of the bill has everyone on the warpath...
IT IS AN OPINION PIECE FOLKS
Give me proof or delete the thread.

originally posted by: Gothmog
Dang .
An opinion piece with absolutely NO original wording of the bill has everyone on the warpath...
IT IS AN OPINION PIECE FOLKS
Give me proof or delete the thread.

It's a resolution that carries no force of law. Just so that's clear for everyone.

originally posted by: sine.nomine
a reply to: carewemust

That's how I feel, but I do understand things like if the woman's life is in jeopardy. Or if they're raped, especially in a case of incest. But I believe those special cases are what should be up for debate, not these all-or-nothing causes.

(bold mine)

What are you saying, that victimized women's access to abortion should be up for debate? What is "all or nothing" and why shouldn't that be debated?

Why should any women's choice and rights according to Roe V Wade by up for debate by anybody?

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: sine.nomine
a reply to: carewemust

That's how I feel, but I do understand things like if the woman's life is in jeopardy. Or if they're raped, especially in a case of incest. But I believe those special cases are what should be up for debate, not these all-or-nothing causes.

(bold mine)

What are you saying, that victimized women's access to abortion should be up for debate? What is "all or nothing" and why shouldn't that be debated?

Why should any women's choice and rights according to Roe V Wade by up for debate by anybody?

The reason I believe that is because in those special cases, the woman had no choice in child bearing.

ETA: I'm saying that should be the topic of how to legislate abortion.

a reply to: sine.nomine


What's wrong with legislating abortion by applying Roe V Wade?

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: sine.nomine


What's wrong with legislating abortion by applying Roe V Wade?

I'm not necessarily saying there is anything wrong with that. I do see a strong divide over it that could be bridged with better legislation that compromises a bit more. Until then, the law is the law, and that's fine with me. I just think the dialog is... Misplaced? Off target? Hopefully you get my point. Sorry if I wasn't clear earlier (or now).

originally posted by: sine.nomine

originally posted by: olaru12
If bald old men can't tell women how to treat their bodies...who can?

Angry slutty women?

I think we know what your point is....