Saudis Confirm Khashoggi's Death

Okay so the latest is that the Saudis are saying that he was inadvertently choked to death following an altercation.

MBS is heading up the commission to investigate. I'm guessing he will not be implicated.

So Trump and the Saudi Royal Family were finally able to come to an agreement over what the best story will be that allows us to still supply them with weapons while minimizing global backlash.

Sucks to be a high ranking member of the Saudi military right now.

originally posted by: ausername

originally posted by: TexasTruth

originally posted by: MteWamp
I just can't, for the life of me, find it in my heart to trust the Saudis, y'know?

Maybe they are considered allies, but something is just "off" about them.

This whole Khashoggi mess stinks to high Heaven, as well.

Maybe it’s the turban and dresses from medivial times they still wear. Or the fact they are on the UN board of human rights, while they still cut off hands and behead people? Or the treatment of women? Yea, not a friendly bunch to associate with. The only things not from the Stone Age there are military weapons and fancy buildings.

The Saudis have a virtual death grip on the US economy, they've proven it multiple times in the past with their ability to manipulate and control oil prices.

As long as that exists, whatever administration is in power will have to look the other way from Saudi atrocities and human rights issues, and just about anything they want to get away with. Kiss them, their royal asses or else...

I was hoping Trump wouldn't be one of those.

I still believe he will. With restrictions loosened and the pipelines going, America is set to be the new world leader in fossil fuel. Then they can eat their oil and sand.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Wow. Thanks for updating.

So I wonder how this is going to play out with bin Salmon? Just a fight -- so not ordered by bin Salmon and US/Saud relations go on as usual?

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Sucks to be a high ranking member of the Saudi military right now.

Yeah, they're awfully sword-happy bunch. Putting the literal meaning back into the phrase, "heads are gonna roll."

a reply to: TexasTruth

It's not that simple, we can be more independent on oil and the Saudis can still manipulate global oil prices.

A confrontation with Saudi Arabia over this journalist killed, or anything else and you'll become painfully aware of what they can do in retaliation.

Imagine $10 per gallon average nationwide. Sustained over a period of time would have a devastating impact on the economy. Although, domestic oil producers would love it.

Like Obama and administrations before him, Trump will either play along with the innocence of the Saudis in this murder, or learn the hard way.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Sure..............a fist fight. I can see the meeting now................. let's say it was a fist fight. Sounds good............meeting adjourned.

a reply to: ausername

Wow
They admit killing him. Arrest 18. Change their intelligence structure, all only because trump took action but he will play along?
Talk about having it both ways.
That's ridiculous.

a reply to: Boadicea

I don't think we'll see any drastic souring of US-Saudi relations. The writing seems to be on the wall here: the story from the Saudis will be that this interrogation was not authorized/directed by MBS. They'll say one or more of the now dismissed high ranking officials was behind it. They're framing the death as an accident and they'll probably pin it on a grunt.

What I'm wondering about is whether or not the backlash against SA will be enough that MBS is forced to step back. How many heirs does King Salman have? I want to say a dozen or so.

a reply to: shooterbrody

The Saudis made some serious threats if any actions were taken against them over the journalist murder.

What you're seeing is a show to provide the king and inner circle deniability. (If the king knew that would be very bad)

Doesn't matter now, never does.

No president is ever going to stand up to the kingdom. Same old # new day.

a reply to: ausername

Ok gotcha
Trump does nothing, he is bad.
Trump sends sos over, he is bad.

a reply to: shooterbrody

With the kingdom, any president is damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Either accused of being in bed with the Saudi royalty, or failure to appease them and blamed for economic chaos.

Trump is trying to play it in the middle. About as smart a move as any I suppose.

It is what it is.

I'm a Trump voter and supporter btw.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Sucks to be a high ranking member of the Saudi military right now.

Yeah, they're awfully sword-happy bunch. Putting the literal meaning back into the phrase, "heads are gonna roll."

In the first 4 months of this year, Saudi Arabia PUBLICLY beheaded 48 of its citizens.

Source - www.theguardian.com...

a reply to: theantediluvian

We should demand 1℅ of their total wealth as payment to the world community. It should be donated to the free press of all UN members.

Having a diplomat or journalist die like this could start a war. The seriousness of the situation would be inappropriately expressed in words of remorse alone.

I don't even want those involved to die. I want the Saudis to hurt where they care.

Money. It's all they got.

originally posted by: caterpillage
A fist fight broke out when he irately attacked 18 innocent Saudi operatives, they were forced to dismember him alive in self defence.

So sad. Saud.

Yeah that's about it. And older out of shape guy that somehow got the best of trained, in shape military operatives. Good thing they were carrying a bone saw with them. It was probably the only thing that saved them from this savage. Probably a good call, cutting off his fingers with a saw while he was still alive, that way he couldn't use JiuJitsu on them.

Good thing they decapitated him too, incase he came back from the dead to kill them like a crazed vampire zombie.

a reply to: neo96

At this point no one knows who killed him.

In the Saudi consulate?

originally posted by: theantediluvian
Okay so the latest is that the Saudis are saying that he was inadvertently choked to death following an altercation.

MBS is heading up the commission to investigate. I'm guessing he will not be implicated.

It's like Comey's FBI investigating itself for political bias, corruption and wrongdoings.

originally posted by: Metallicus
How many people has U.S. intelligence assassinated? I mean what is it with this guy that makes him such a big deal? This happens everyday and nearly every country you just don't hear about it unless their is a political agenda to be pushed. I am not buying into the outrage when this is more the norm than the exception.

Can you tell me the last time the United States invited someone in to there embassy than killed them? If your trying to provide cover the situations have to be the same otherwise your comparing apples and oranges. Ill take it further find any country that has invited someone to their embassy than killed them.

Saudis have way overstepped the line on this, And now the cover-up is ridiculous to say the least. We are now supposed to believe he went to the embassy and attacked 18 people some of who are trained killers. Then an autopsy expert is flown in to the embassy booked by the crown princes personal guard but he knew nothing about it? Then they try to claim someone in Saudi Arabia dared to act without orders from the crown prince? heres a tweet people ma find interesting

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In this tweet by @saudq1978 the chief scapegoat in the #Saudi narrative on the murder of #JamalKhshoggi he says “you think I act/speak on my own accord without directives? I’m an employee who honestly executed the orders of my masters the King & the Crown Prince

According to the Saudis, he died in a fist fight.

www.politico.com...

Saudi Arabia on Saturday confirmed for the first time that journalist Jamal Khashoggi died in the kingdom's consulate in Turkey, claiming his death occurred following a "fist fight" gone bad.

A sixty-year-old guy is going to get a marriage license and he ends up in a fist fight!

Over what the license fee?

So why did it take three weeks to admit this?

a reply to: Willtell

So why did it take three weeks to admit this?

We all know it's BS.

But honestly I don't see why it would matter anyways.

Trump even said during his campaign he would take a different approach with Saudi Arabia, but now he's not.

People will be quick to defend him.

In all reality though, after evidence pointing to their government helping aspects of 9/11 and arguably the biggest human rights crisis in Yemen... If no one cared about that, they wont change now.

Saudis have a strangle hold on the US, and anyone who denies that is being disingenuous.