Easter Island discovery: Experts unravel mystery of ancient statues

a reply to: Hanslune

Nice out of context quote there mate, i was replying to this sentence by Harte:

"You should realize that nobody's going to even try to reproduce even a granite sarcophagus by hand"

Read my reply again, i was agreeing with him by saying "I know" then explained "BECAUSE IN MY OPINION".


Epic fail, another know it all eh?

That's why nobody should believe a word guys like you say, you are full of crap and twist things to fit your narrative. Instead of entering a debate with someone, the first thing you do is look through their post history looking for any crap you can fling around hoping to discredit them, dodgy and weird.

And to put this out there before you start getting nit picky: i don't believe i know anything with 100% certainty that happened thousands of years ago, anything that i do think that happened is just my own personal opinion. (

originally posted by: Xabi87
That's why nobody should believe a word guys like you say, you are full of crap and twist things to fit your narrative. Instead of entering a debate with someone, the first thing you do is look through their post history looking for any crap you can fling around hoping to discredit them, dodgy and weird.

And to put this out there before you start getting nit picky: i don't believe i know anything with 100% certainty that happened thousands of years ago, anything that i do think that happened is just my own personal opinion. (

I don't even know how to look through someone's post history here, except for a site-specific google search. I stopped using search and other functions here over five years ago.

But you're welcome to look through my post history and see what you want. If you see me "looking for any crap you can fling around hoping to discredit them" and/or twisting things to fit my narrative - which is so ironic I could hardly type it - then copy it here.

See, that's the trouble with guys like you. You always think other people are as rotten as you, if not more so.

Harte

a reply to: Hanslune


They might have done ,I guess it depends on what motivates you. When you find unfinished Moi, laying in the quarry, and also find the same thing at the Aswan quarry, it on the face of tends to make one think that something stopped the quarrying and never got started again . Like they were already there. Found by the Polynesians and incorporated into their culture. Same with Ponape, and maybe the Great pyramids. Not to mention the sub structure of Manchu Pictu which architecturally seems to have a different style, which was incorporated into a more modern Inca , though not as perfect rendition.

originally posted by: Xabi87
a reply to: Hanslune

So you agree you contradicted yourself?

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Hanslune


They might have done ,I guess it depends on what motivates you. When you find unfinished Moi, laying in the quarry, and also find the same thing at the Aswan quarry, it on the face of tends to make one think that something stopped the quarrying and never got started again . Like they were already there. Found by the Polynesians and incorporated into their culture. Same with Ponape, and maybe the Great pyramids. Not to mention the sub structure of Manchu Pictu which architecturally seems to have a different style, which was incorporated into a more modern Inca , though not as perfect rendition.

At some point in nearly every quarry some work is stopped for whatever reason. The fact that their is no sign of anyone else being on the island is kinda of a killer to the ideas someone else was there. Nope MP is an Inca construction 'seems to have a different style'. May I ask you a question are you fully knowledgeable about Inca architectural styles or are you just repeating what someone told you?

originally posted by: Xabi87

And to put this out there before you start getting nit picky: i don't believe i know anything with 100% certainty that happened thousands of years ago, anything that i do think that happened is just my own personal opinion. (

Really - so nothing with 100% certainly huh? So you don't think the planet earth was here thousands of years ago?

That different cultures lived in the Nile valley - humans - you cannot with 100% certainty that too or believe the pyramids were built on Giza plateau? Did they pop up in 1342 AD then?

Really? A short look at what you posts shows you go one way then another just to be in opposition to whomever you are talking to. A reaction poster.

You might want to take the time to figure out what you actually believe then try sticking to it.....lol

a reply to: Hanslune


That's true work would be stopped at most quarries when it stopped, but leaving an unfinished colossus still attached to the bedrock suggests , many things. The person who ordered its making, is dead, cant pay for it, cant move it, or maybe the society just collapsed, many reasons could apply. But architectural style , is a reasonable way of identifying a culture , whether it be Arabesque Norman Gothic Georgian etc. Or Megalithic polygonal, Manchu Pictou, is mostly Aztec but some base areas are Polygonal Megalithic, with Aztec built on top. If it was all Aztec why change the style?

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Hanslune


Or Megalithic polygonal, Manchu Pictou, is mostly Aztec but some base areas are Polygonal Megalithic, with Aztec built on top. If it was all Aztec why change the style?

Aztec? I think you mean Inca and that style is Inca also because they used a method of stone building that was built on building an ashlar base then using smaller stones for finishing the building.

Now were there other people on that hill top at some point? Yep but they didn't build any town that we can find evidence of.

www.researchgate.net...

a reply to: Hanslune


Yes sorry Inca. But I still think that if I were building something in the clouds on a place prone to earthquakes that polygonal would be the way to go, but if I couldn't build in that style , using polygonal bases that were already there would be a great idea. Providing they were there , which on some of the structures they were. So if the Incas built them how come they cant do polygonal anymore.? Wouldn't the answer be that they never could in the first place.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Hanslune
So if the Incas built them how come they cant do polygonal anymore.? Wouldn't the answer be that they never could in the first place.

Machu Picchu dates to about 1450 CE. If you pause for a moment, you'll see why the Inca had stopped building much a little while after they finished it.

Harte

a reply to: Hanslune

Nope, i pointed out that you are posting out of context quotes...

a reply to: Hanslune

Now you are just being overly literal and silly... How old are you, ten? Jeez.

a reply to: Harte


If the Inca built the Polygonal walls at Manchu picchu around 1450 someone from the Inca would at least have known how it was done today, or a Spanish historian would have recorded it. Just the same as something so remarkable in Egypt would also have some record, unless they were built so far in the remote past nobody has a clue. Which is looks like the case as far as I am concerned.

a reply to: anonentity

The art of that style of stone work is alive and well in the Andes, if you look hard enough I'm sure you will find a YouTube video of the older PBS documentary where local stonemasons build a wall using traditional tools, techniques and historic quarries to illustrate how it was done.
And the Egyptians did a fantastic job of documenting how they did things.

originally posted by: Hanslune


At some point in nearly every quarry some work is stopped for whatever reason. The fact that their is no sign of anyone else being on the island is kinda of a killer to the ideas someone else was there.

The fact the sweet potato species found on Rapa Nui had diverged from the version found in mainland South America long prior the the earliest official date of human habitation leaves us with two options:

1) - It got there by some natural means.

2) - Somebody brought it there a very long time earlier.

Not saying the existing population arrived that much earlier. But they might not have been the first to ever arrive. Even their arrival date is established more by dating deforestation and arrival of rat populations, rather than by finding of any actual artifacts.

However, if the Moai were made of soft stone, then they would probably not last 12,000 years without suffering severe erosion. So even if someone was there in great antiquity, they probably didn't build the statues.