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Alert: Notice The Shift In Threat Narrative From Russia To China

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posted on Oct, 5 2018 @ 07:46 PM
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This is going to be a long post… lot of ground to cover

It has come time to make Americans fully aware of the decades covert war against us by China. This war is destroying our way of life and undermining our national security. As with all wars, there are no shortage of spies and traitors along the way. This could not have been accomplished so fully without traitors within our own government and industry being complicit in China’s actions against us.

The objective of this thread is to spread information and expose China as the nation which is the greatest threat to our nation’s security. I am speaking to the subject of nations as national security threats, not individuals or shadow groups which there are no shortage of threats from them and they do collude with the Chinese as well.

First note key recent events in the news:



Nested on the servers’ motherboards, the testers found a tiny microchip, not much bigger than a grain of rice, that wasn’t part of the boards’ original design. Amazon reported the discovery to U.S. authorities, sending a shudder through the intelligence community. Elemental’s servers could be found in Department of Defense data centers, the CIA’s drone operations, and the onboard networks of Navy warships. And Elemental was just one of hundreds of Supermicro customers.

During the ensuing top-secret probe, which remains open more than three years later, investigators determined that the chips allowed the attackers to create a stealth doorway into any network that included the altered machines. Multiple people familiar with the matter say investigators found that the chips had been inserted at factories run by manufacturing subcontractors in China.

Source Oct 4 2018:
The Big Hack: How China Used a Tiny Chip to Infiltrate U.S. Companies




At the Aspen Security Forum last week, FBI director Chris Wray acknowledged the threat Chinese spying in particular poses, saying, “China from a counterintelligence perspective represents the broadest, most pervasive, most threatening challenge we face as a country.”

Soruce July 7 2018:
How Silicon Valley Became a Den of Spies




The Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) found that virtually all of Clinton’s emails were sent to a “foreign entity,” Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Texas Republican, said at a July 12 House Committee on the Judiciary hearing. He did not reveal the entity’s identity, but said it was unrelated to Russia

The Intelligence Community Inspector General warned of the problem, but the FBI subsequently failed to act, Texas Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert said during a July hearing.

Source Aug 27 2018:
SOURCES: CHINA HACKED HILLARY CLINTON’S PRIVATE EMAIL SERVER




Well, this month we learned that Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) had a Chinese spy on her staff who worked for her for about 20 years, was listed as an “office director” on payroll records and served as her driver when she was in San Francisco, all while reporting to China’s Ministry of State Security through China’s San Francisco Consulate.

The reaction of the mainstream media? Barely a peep.

Source August 9 2018:
www.washingtonpost.com... =.c48ca23716af





The main negative effect of outsourcing is it increases U.S. unemployment. The 14 million outsourced jobs are almost double the 7.5 million unemployed Americans. If all those jobs returned, it would be enough to also hire the 5.7 million who are working part-time but would prefer full-time positions.

Source March 19 2018:
How Outsourcing Jobs Affects the U.S. Economy

This is the main reason I have been in support of Trump. He was the only one that called out our outsourcing to China as a problem during the 2016 elections.
Yes, as a businessman, he also benefited from outsourcing to China and getting materials from China. I have as well in business because it has been nearly impossible to compete in some industries when all other competitors are doing it with the systemic support from our own government. That is a fact, I have personal experience with it and the law of survival in a dog eat dog world.

There is much bipartisan opposition to bringing back manufacturing from China, it affects all politicians who are slaves to their corporate masters. I doubted that Trump would actually go after China, even when I voted for him. I hoped he would but, seen too many people never deliver on their promises. He was slow on getting to China and I doubted again that he ever actually would.

It is now undeniable that Trump has shifted his sights on China and I expect extreme opposition from all sides on this. I would like to further lay out why we must do this and support those who are fighting to protect the American way of life even if it brings us some pain in the near term.





And if China (whom we rely upon heavily for defense components) decides to cut shipments, then America’s military will be left non-mission capable. Case in point: China did this to Japan in 2010 in response to a maritime dispute. This is why manufacturing can and will return to the United States.

Source July 29 2015
America’s Military is Supplied by China?


Which Five Companies Do The Most Overseas Manufacturing?
Apple, Nike, Cisco, Walmart, IBM
Notice 3 of the 5 are tech companies…

Source Oct 17 2014
Which Five Companies Do The Most Overseas Manufacturing?


This is why manufacturing can and should return to the United States:



The Defense Department recently revealed that an estimated 80 percent of all defense components are bought from foreign countries.


Source May 30 2012:
American Defense Outsourcing Has Become a National Security Threat


Cont....





edit on 5-10-2018 by Strate8 because: Wording



posted on Oct, 5 2018 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: Strate8

....Cont

Let's go back to the start of it all...


Some administration experts on nonproliferation, particularly in the Defense and Energy departments, argued against sale of the supercomputer, saying it would give China important new technology that could help its nuclear and ballistic missile development.

Source November 19 1993:
U.S. agrees to sell supercomputer to China, officials say Administration aims to embrace, not isolate, Beijing
I remember this event clearly during my days in the Marines. We understood what this meant and most of us considered Clinton a traitor all the way back then. Prior to having these super computers, China did not have the technology required for intercontinental ballistic missiles. This was a game changer which dramatically decreased our national security.
I also remember Clinton’s deal to give N Korea nuclear power plants which the US taxpayer paid for but that is another story.

People should be aware of this:




What China wants is for foreign citizens of ethnic Chinese background to be loyal to the “motherland” – meaning China – regardless of their citizenship and to work to further the interests of China. This was disclosed in the People’s Daily a couple of years ago when it encouraged “more and more overseas Chinese to participate in the local political life”.

It referred to specifically to Congresswoman Judy Chu of California, who was born in the United States of immigrant parents, as someone “participating in politics in foreign countries”. The Chinese government wants to make use of foreign politicians who happen to be of Chinese extraction to support its causes, such as in its territorial dispute with Japan.

May 2018
Beijing seeks loyalty from ethnic Chinese with foreign passports

I worked over a decade as a service technician and can speak to firsthand experiences and conversations where many Chinese Americans have stated that they do still have loyalty to China. To what extent remains to be seen. At the time I did not take it as anything nefarious and I’m assuming most Chinese Americans would not commit traitorous acts against the United States in support of China.
A few years ago a Chinese Engineer at a company I worked with at times in Oil and Gas was brutally killed along with his family, execution style in their home. All killed with gunshots to the head, all in their beds – meaning suppressed weapon. It personally looks very real to me that there are moles within American companies working towards the interests of the Chinese government
Sources:
www.chron.com...
thetruecrimefiles.com...


There were multiple objectives of the Russia, Russia, Russia narrative. One objective is to conceal who really is our biggest threat to national security which was also to be used to discredit Trump when he started his push against China.

As more comes to light, the battle against China will heat up and Americans are weary of the constant state of war we have been in since 2001. They were counting on Americans to get war weary fighting the wrong people for the wrong reasons.

A whole generation of Americans has never witnessed in their lifetime the great American way of life we had when we lead the world in manufacturing and technology. Instead, they grew up during the vague “War on Terror” and "Globalism" when American manufacturing had, for the most part, already passed to China and India. They hear talk of how great it used to be from the same people that they look at as being responsible for letting those jobs and opportunities leave this country. They are indoctrinated in colleges which have become institutions promoting socialism and they believe this indoctrination because the reality of today is bleak for them.

As you see trade negotiations with China evolve, you will see odd splits that do not make sense to some. Red-State Democrats supporting firm negotiation on trade, many establishment Republicans against it. You really have to question why a “strong on defense” republican would support China so much when they are a clear threat to our security.

Last, corporations are entities that do not have loyalty to any specific country. They are soulless beasts whose interests are their own. I have seen otherwise good men do bad things in the name of this corporate beast. Don’t be that guy.

Example Nike: Kaepernick ad – Stand for something even if it means losing everything
This coming from an “American” company #2 on the list of outsourcing jobs to China…


edit on 5-10-2018 by Strate8 because: wording

edit on 5-10-2018 by Strate8 because: wording again, proof read after post!



posted on Oct, 5 2018 @ 07:53 PM
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We have to watch out for both Russia and China. They don't have as much freedom over there.



posted on Oct, 5 2018 @ 08:07 PM
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Very interesting information contained here, still mulling it over.


But my initial thought is it seems the Chinese had/have a very vested interest in keeping up a false 'Russia did it" narrative...

S&F for interest.



posted on Oct, 5 2018 @ 08:16 PM
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originally posted by: Maverick1
Very interesting information contained here, still mulling it over.


But my initial thought is it seems the Chinese had/have a very vested interest in keeping up a false 'Russia did it" narrative...

S&F for interest.


Very astute observation on your part. One could go so far as to say China is one of the biggest winners in continuing the "Russia Collusion" narrative.



posted on Oct, 5 2018 @ 08:19 PM
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a reply to: Strate8

Out of all that and you miss that a Chinese spy spent 20 years on the staff of a Senator on the Senate Intelligence Commitee?

Explain the Chinese spy, Sen. Feinstein



posted on Oct, 5 2018 @ 08:21 PM
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So China is spying.

So is every other damn country in the world.

But you have to give credit where it is due ... China is pretty damn good at it!

While the US conducts regime change after regime change, changing the world ... the same people get butt hurt over this.

China was granted access to secrets by highly positioned US persons.

This taking point has been engineered by those writers of 4.00am talking points simply to take the heat away from their own meddling witches who will give anything away if they get the bribe.

Fix your own house ... get it in order ... before you start with this stupid rhetoric.

The US is just butt hurt that they didn't think of this first ... or did they?

P



posted on Oct, 5 2018 @ 08:30 PM
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originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: Strate8

Out of all that and you miss that a Chinese spy spent 20 years on the staff of a Senator on the Senate Intelligence Commitee?

Explain the Chinese spy, Sen. Feinstein


Thanks for that. I did have that on the list but apparently forgot to copy it into the long post.



posted on Oct, 5 2018 @ 08:33 PM
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“The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.”

― George Orwell, 1984

www.goodreads.com...



posted on Oct, 5 2018 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: pheonix358




This taking point has been engineered by those writers of 4.00am talking points simply to take the heat away from their own meddling witches who will give anything away if they get the bribe.

Fix your own house ... get it in order ... before you start with this stupid rhetoric.


This is not 4am talking points, this is our way of life on the line.

This thread shows the warnings we have been given for decades while our politicians and corporate leaders continue to sell out America.

This is exactly about fixing our own house, getting it in order and getting rid of traitors to our country.

China is the undisputed leader in intellectual property theft:
theconversation.com...
www.theamericanconservative.com...
This could not have happened at this scale without our own government and corporations being complicit in it.



posted on Oct, 5 2018 @ 08:50 PM
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a reply to: Strate8


SnF

Let's also not forget the Confucius Institute!
How China Infiltrated U.S. Classrooms



posted on Oct, 5 2018 @ 08:59 PM
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Russia, and China are not happy with the USA. Sanctions mainly and land and sea disputes. For now diplomacy has been dealing with this, but it is a powder keg. As far as espionage, well that’s part of life.

A grand war has been likely to occur for the past few years now. Pray or hope to whatever god’s or ego it does not...



posted on Oct, 5 2018 @ 09:13 PM
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a reply to: seeker1963

Thank you for bringing that to the table. I had not considered that but do have an anecdotal story relating to it!

When I was on a project in Missouri during a 4th of July holiday, the plant owner invited myself and my assistant to their home to celebrate. While there I met his daughter who major was in "Far Eastern Religious Studies". Talking with her it was interesting to find out how their perception/value for life is different than Christians. I got the impression that it was less to do with the individual and about fitting into some greater... something. I took it that they don't believe in God in the same way we do. Later on she mentioned she was taking a long vacation during summer break to.... wait for it.... Europe! I thought that was real comical at the time her having no interest in actually going to the region her major was in.

On another project probably a decade later, I was in a shipyard in China. A Chinese man lay dead on the ground (electrocuted) for most of the day until shift change. Apparently shift changes were when they dealt with those sort of things. I was later assured that if an American got hurt or killed, work would stop immediately. Hmm, was that comforting?



posted on Oct, 6 2018 @ 12:42 AM
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S&F OP.

This is a very deep rabbit hole.


originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: Strate8


SnF

Let's also not forget the Confucius Institute!
How China Infiltrated U.S. Classrooms


Confucius Institute is an arm of CUSEF - instruments of chinese statecraft.

Thanks, but No, Thanks


UT Austin says it will not accept funding from a foundation after concerns were raised about its connections to the Chinese Communist Party.


Who was lobbying in 2015, 2016, and 2017? The Podesta Group.

Tung Chee-Hwa was busy reshaping public opinion and policy abroad.

Di"Chi"Fi and Tung go waaaaaaay back.


Chinese promise to respect "one country, two systems' as Britain ends 156-year reign



Feinstein spoke highly of Tung, a shipping tycoon with no political experience. She said she has gotten to know him well over the years at social and business functions. "I think he'll be a very positive leader who will enjoy a wide margin of support" from the Hong Kong people, she said.


Tung is a shipping tycoon. His company OOCL (he inherited it from his father) (OOIL is the parent co.) & COSCO are very close to a merger.


The June 30 deadline for Chinese state-backed maritime carrier COSCO’s $6.3B acquisition of Orient Overseas Container Line (OOCL), based in Hong Kong, is quickly approaching even as some doubts remain about whether the deal can be closed in time. Protectionist policies and national security concerns may prevent COSCO’s attempt to further consolidate the Asia-North America export business and bring more efficiencies to the supply chain by operating a container terminal in Long Beach.


China had a facility in Long Beach, CA thanks to Bill Clinton. But make no mistake Di"Chi"Fi had a hand in that deal also.


At the same time, the Clinton White House accepted both Cosco and the gunrunners themselves in a White House coffee. I will later show the direct tie between the $366,000 that was conducted to the DNC by the White House recipients and Chinese investors to allow Cosco to gain this favored status.



The Senators, Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer, both Democrats, asked President Clinton's national security adviser, Samuel R. Berger, if he felt that there were any ''security reasons'' not to lease the China Ocean Shipping Company, or Cosco, the entire 145-acre site in the middle of Long Beach. The Port of Long Beach receives about one-fourth of the Chinese goods shipped to the United States.



Blum Associate's Link to China Hinders Plans to Convert Base


link

For the merger of COSCO & OOCL/OOIL to go through they had to sell that facility. I personally think that was a mistake giving the ok for this merger to happen but what do I know? Maybe President Trump knows something I don't like uranium mines.




Azarga Uranium is aiming to be America’s next uranium developer. Our initial development priority, the Dewey Burdock Project, received its Nuclear Regulatory Commission license in April 2014


link


Former National Director of Bureau of Land Management Joins Azarga Uranium


link


Azarga Uranium and URZ Energy Announce Merger to Create New US Focused ISR Uranium Development Company


link

Ready for the kicker?


In February 2007, a company called Uranium One agreed to pay $3.1 billion to acquire UrAsia. Mr. Giustra, a director and major shareholder in UrAsia, would be paid $7.05 per share for a company that just two years earlier was trading at 10 cents per share.


link


Azarga Uranium executes earn-in agreement for Kyzyl Ompul for project consideration of US$7.6 million and a net smelter royalty



AZARGA URANIUM CORP. (TSX:AZZ) (“Azarga Uranium” or the “Company”) is pleased to announce that its 70% controlled subsidiary, UrAsia in Kyrgyzstan Limited Liability Company (“UrAsia”), has executed an earn-in agreement (the “Agreement”) with Mining Investment Company Alliance (“Alliance”).


Let's add it up - education, shipping and uranium.

Anyone ever hear of Cameco Corporation?

We can thank Canada for that one.


Cameco Signs Supply Agreement With China Guangdong Nuclear Power


Going on right under our noses in 2010 but muh Russia...



posted on Oct, 6 2018 @ 12:54 AM
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a reply to: wanderingconfusion


Wow!!! Thanks for the additional info!

Let's not forget Mitch McConnell and his Chinese wife! Perhaps that is addressed in your info bomb, but will be digging into what you provided!



posted on Oct, 6 2018 @ 01:05 AM
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originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: wanderingconfusion


Wow!!! Thanks for the additional info!

Let's not forget Mitch McConnell and his Chinese wife! Perhaps that is addressed in your info bomb, but will be digging into what you provided!


I haven't forgot about that but I haven't made it that far. I have found ties to both Republicans and Democrats. I even have Priscilla Chan on my list.



posted on Oct, 6 2018 @ 01:26 AM
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a reply to: wanderingconfusion

Outstanding dig!

Everyone should find this interesting as well:

www.politico.com...

People do not know how big a bullet we dodged when Trump pulled us out of the TPP agreement. McCain was always the "controlled opposition" voice on China but when it came down to it, he supported the TPP. The TPP was sold as a counter to rising China influence but actually would have done nothing of the sort.

More info:
inthesetimes.com...
Just a brief overview and something that should be discussed more as it was another traitorous agreement by our own elected officials.



posted on Oct, 6 2018 @ 01:44 AM
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The China discussion has been making mainstream headlines for a while.

The Pence speech at The Hudson Institute is well worth a watch

www.youtube.com...

Edit: this is being linked everywhere now since Q# 2350
edit on 6-10-2018 by DrBobH because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 6 2018 @ 05:55 AM
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originally posted by: Strate8
a reply to: seeker1963

Thank you for bringing that to the table. I had not considered that but do have an anecdotal story relating to it!

When I was on a project in Missouri during a 4th of July holiday, the plant owner invited myself and my assistant to their home to celebrate. While there I met his daughter who major was in "Far Eastern Religious Studies". Talking with her it was interesting to find out how their perception/value for life is different than Christians. I got the impression that it was less to do with the individual and about fitting into some greater... something. I took it that they don't believe in God in the same way we do. Later on she mentioned she was taking a long vacation during summer break to.... wait for it.... Europe! I thought that was real comical at the time her having no interest in actually going to the region her major was in.

On another project probably a decade later, I was in a shipyard in China. A Chinese man lay dead on the ground (electrocuted) for most of the day until shift change. Apparently shift changes were when they dealt with those sort of things. I was later assured that if an American got hurt or killed, work would stop immediately. Hmm, was that comforting?


Communist countries put more emphasis on the "collective" or "hive" rather than the individual. Like when there was that explosion that Chernobyl, robots couldn't be used to clean up the highly radioactive waste, so humans were used instead. Less than 30 seconds exposure was lethal but they needed 4 hours works, so they just assembled teams of workers who would do 30 seconds of work. Some got cancer, others didn't. But cleaning up the mess had to be done.

The ability to put spy technology into electronics the size of grains of rice has been known since the 1980's. There's a whole science to hiding software in hardware using techniques like "port knocking" where only certain combinations of input data will trigger a backdoor to open.



posted on Oct, 6 2018 @ 06:37 AM
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