US vs the world.

There are now 3 nations the US government finds a threat to democracy.Syria,Iran and N.Korea.

I wanted to ask howmany of you are with this war?I believe the US should take it slowly and deal with terrorism and war another way.We have enough problems as it is.But i do believe that there are many who work only for good in the US government.

I wanted to get many of your opinions on how you feel.If you with or against,i respect your opinion/belief.

I am not "for" war.

But I'm not against the United States enforcing secuirty for the world.

I strongly believe some order need to be kept. If theres even the slightest chance N.Korea, Iran or syria have a WMD.. then we must act to purge them of those weapons.

I dont want to wake up one morning turn the news on and see [insert western city] nuked. I dont want to wake up and find [insert middle-eastern city] nuked either.

Something has to be done though:

You let a Iran develope these weapons. They sell on to other countries before you know it you have most of the world possessing nuclear arms, and some of these countries just dont have the stability to carry such weapons.

So I am for war, if there is a possible theat by Syria, Iran or N.korea.

Vorta

I strongly believe some order need to be kept. If theres even the slightest chance N.Korea, Iran or syria have a WMD.. then we must act to purge them of those weapons.

So only the U.S. should have WMDs? I dont think any1 should have them.

[edit on 24/2/05 by Croat56]

oops double post. So um..... How about that Star Wars episode 3 ha?

[edit on 24/2/05 by Croat56]

I am against the United States enforcing secuirty for the world

I wanna be the police man, muma always said ill make good poilce man

I live in the united states and yes I am too against us having all of the money and being discriminated as being the "best". Well, I would say that we would lose if the world decided to go against us. But as I say, everyone else would lose too because a nuclear war would be started.

I am a vietnam veteran, the last thing I want to see is more death. But what if we do nothing We were caught off guard on 9/11/2001. Three
thousand innocent people were killed. That is more than were killed during the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor that launched us into WWII. We as a people cannot afford to just wait and see what is going to happen. The next attack on our shores could be a dirty bomb, a virus or God forbid an atomic bomb. Hundreds of thousands or even more would die. The radicals declared war on us, they will stop at nothing but our complete destruction.
The President of the United States and our Military has one main goal, that is to protect this country and it's citizens. There are things going on that we do not know about. We cannot go round and take a census to see who is pro and who is con. That is why we have elections. We have to trust the people we voted into office to make the right decisions based on the information that they have. And I don't want to hear that over played remark about their being no WMD's in Iraq. Maybe we found nothing this time but what about the next. What about Iran, Syria or N. Korea. It wouldn't take but one nuclear device detonated on our shores to bring this nation and the rest of the free world to its knees. The loss of life would be unbearable. No I don't advocate war but I am not stupid enough to sit and wait for my destruction either. So, What do you do puz: You pray for sound judgement, strong leadership and hope that cooler heads will prevail. If that doesn't work then you better pray like hell that we win.

Why the heading is US vs the World?? It should be US and the world.

and if you ask me it will not happen. Not a chance with Bush now in Europe and buying the Idea that diplomacy is the best solution.

I am neither for or against the war. I just realse it is necessary. Unfortunately at this tme the US seems to be the only western government willing to lead the fight against terrorism and Nuclear proliferation. It would be nice if countries like france, germany, etc. were willing to pull thier weight, but untill they are we will contnue to do what is necessary.

Originally posted by mwm1331
I am neither for or against the war. I just realse it is necessary. Unfortunately at this tme the US seems to be the only western government willing to lead the fight against terrorism and Nuclear proliferation.

Why not start with your own country before "leading" the world...
Also I suppose that these are NOT in iraq....


Also why is america allowed nukes and not iran?

It would be nice if countries like france, germany, etc. were willing to pull thier weight, but untill they are we will contnue to do what is necessary.

Pull thier weight in what?
Not break UN laws, not attack a soverign hell possibly two if it goes the way I think it will.

Originally posted by mwm1331
I am neither for or against the war. I just realse it is necessary. Unfortunately at this tme the US seems to be the only western government willing to lead the fight against terrorism and Nuclear proliferation. It would be nice if countries like france, germany, etc. were willing to pull thier weight, but untill they are we will contnue to do what is necessary.

I agree that the we should take action to terrorism and i commend the US governments interest in this.But invading one nation against %60 of the US votes and keeping it undercontrol like a prison seem to farfetched.And this is not where it ends.Sooner or later more nations will be undercontrol. Im not just worried about the rights to others,im worried about our nation itself.Even though the US is the most powerful nation,keeping a number of other nations undercontrol would take billions in taxes weekly and would just give the US more space to be responsible for.If we begin to take action towards Syria,N.Korea and Iran,it will add more of a strain that the US economy and military is handling.Remember,the US is very powerful,not invinsible.

Its funny how republicans are ment to be conservatives yet they are taking more interests in other nations than what they claim.I believe we should take action,but there has got to be a better way.I want to see Osama Bin Laden pay,not other nations.

Originally posted by mwm1331
I am neither for or against the war. I just realse it is necessary.

Errr... doesn't that mean you support it? As in, you are 'for' it?

Unfortunately at this tme the US seems to be the only western government willing to lead the fight against terrorism and Nuclear proliferation.

And I suppose the UK is doing nothing? They just happen to be on holiday in Afghanistan and Iraq? What about Italy, Poland and Ukraine? I suppose they are just there for the benefit of their respective healths?

a war could happen, but we won't start it. What if say Iran, Syria, and Russia decide to attack Israel!

Originally posted by blackSt33L

Originally posted by mwm1331
I am neither for or against the war. I just realse it is necessary. Unfortunately at this tme the US seems to be the only western government willing to lead the fight against terrorism and Nuclear proliferation. It would be nice if countries like france, germany, etc. were willing to pull thier weight, but untill they are we will contnue to do what is necessary.

I agree that the we should take action to terrorism and i commend the US governments interest in this.But invading one nation against %60 of the US votes and keeping it undercontrol like a prison seem to farfetched.And this is not where it ends.Sooner or later more nations will be undercontrol. Im not just worried about the rights to others,im worried about our nation itself.Even though the US is the most powerful nation,keeping a number of other nations undercontrol would take billions in taxes weekly and would just give the US more space to be responsible for.If we begin to take action towards Syria,N.Korea and Iran,it will add more of a strain that the US economy and military is handling.Remember,the US is very powerful,not invinsible.

Its funny how republicans are ment to be conservatives yet they are taking more interests in other nations than what they claim.I believe we should take action,but there has got to be a better way.I want to see Osama Bin Laden pay,not other nations.

Its really simple black. 9/11 happened becuse a foreign government (afghanistan) was so repressive and so extreme, that it became a breeding ground for those with a terrorist mindset, which extremists used to convince people thier problems were our fault. The lack of freedom in another country was directly resposible for attacks on ours. Therfore whererrver we see another bredding ground, we are gonna go in and "drain the swamp"
Those who dont like it should get out of our way or we are gonna roll over them like a steamroller.

Originally posted by mwm1331
Its really simple black. 9/11 happened becuse a foreign government (afghanistan) was so repressive and so extreme, that it became a breeding ground for those with a terrorist mindset, which extremists used to convince people thier problems were our fault.

Wouldnt you say the american training and money was a direct cause for the attack or the US oil companies not usng fair trade?

The lack of freedom in another country was directly resposible for attacks on ours. Therfore whererrver we see another bredding ground, we are gonna go in and "drain the swamp"

No, you use that as a reason, otherwise you would invade iran and china and NK and most of south africa...

Those who dont like it should get out of our way or we are gonna roll over them like a steamroller.

You will try, mabye you will suceed but at a high cost.

Originally posted by Vorta
I am not "for" war.

But I'm not against the United States enforcing secuirty for the world.

I strongly believe some order need to be kept. If theres even the slightest chance N.Korea, Iran or syria have a WMD.. then we must act to purge them of those weapons.

I dont want to wake up one morning turn the news on and see [insert western city] nuked. I dont want to wake up and find [insert middle-eastern city] nuked either.

Something has to be done though:

You let a Iran develope these weapons. They sell on to other countries before you know it you have most of the world possessing nuclear arms, and some of these countries just dont have the stability to carry such weapons.

So I am for war, if there is a possible theat by Syria, Iran or N.korea.

Vorta

Very well said.

I am not one who LIKES war. However, i do prefer war now over a nuke blowing up in my country tomorow.

Just imagine the US really going to war with Iran,Syria and N.korea.What a strain that will put on considering the US economy and government is already coping with.I saw the news earlier,Russia agreed to sign the Nuclear fusion with Iran.

Im seen the cold war all over again