Rendlesham Forest 1980 Pt II - Will There Be An Answer?

It appears that solid research has been done, which shows
that memories can be suppressed with subliminal (or
presumably liminal) cues.

New Scientist Article (Paywalled)

Nature Article

Now we assume this of course.. when we talk about RFI brainwashing or MKultra, etc,
but I just found it interesting that solid public research has been done.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Also as we showed in the old thread. People of a certain disposition could be 'trained' to commit assassination.



Well except that something bothers me at this point in the video .

I guess you see what I am getting at?

a reply to: mirageman

You do the 'old man gets kids to pull his finger so that he can fart'
thing so often, I'm unwilling to watch your videos.

LOL!

Not wanting to be off track, but previous posts concerning getting tagged and bagged by nefarious network objects while researching thread content...

In windows, protect yourself by clearing all cookies and do an occasional "netsh winsock reset"
using admin privies at the command prompt. Requires a reboot.
If you do this every day, your problems will most likely go away.

The subject matter of Rendlesham/Bentwaters and Roswell invoke some serious tracking entities, as well as many other controversial subjects.

PS This has nothing to do with ATS, it is your browser and your stack. (Although a secure login will always be a want.)p

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: KilgoreTrout

I lean towards accident or an accident that occurred during
a test myself.

I only lean that way if those are the only two options. I don't think that those are the only two options but of the two an accident, possibly during some kind of test or demonstration, seems most likely.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
But there is also the case to be made, that the actual test
was one of those tests on humans that you can read about
in Forbidden Science Volume 3.. where US nuclear sites
receive fake UFO's to test readiness and to spread UFO
mania no doubt.

But whatever testing was going on, I think 'they' got more
than they expected at the twin bases.. what an incredible
gift that keeps on giving for the fake UFO deceivers..
it was basically more than could be contained.

Whatever else happened, the Andrew Pike theories seem
to have been involved.

I don't know of Andrew Pike's theories, and I don't rate Vallee, he seems to either be a deceiver or himself deceived. Whichever, I find his approach and perspective to be unhelpful...but each to their own.

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

Andrew is an interesting one . He sent me his book long time ago. Nice person too. Jims side went hysterical when he re -released his book. What a drama it was.

originally posted by: wobbs62
a reply to: KilgoreTrout

It would appear that the lights have been present in that area especially around Woodbridge base for some time, Dr david Clark found a sighting of multi coloured lights in the Forrest outside Woodbridge base from 1946.
Then there's also ghost as sightings on Woodbridge, East end Charley, a man in German uniform but in latter years USAF uniform (maybe two different ghosts) and an old woman in a nightgown that haunts the RAF club there.

There is also the Lakenheath-Bentwaters incident in 1956.

I'm not inclined to believe in ghosts, but as discussed in the previous thread, there is a relationship to seeing apparitions and localised EMFs, what forms those apparitions take seems to be largely, if not entirely, subjective. It also seems to be that only those with a particular sensitivity or brain anomaly, such as closed head injuries, that do see such apparitions when exposed to EMFs, however, those less sensitive may still have a "sense" of a "presence" when exposed to weak EMFs.

a reply to: Baablacksheep

Nick Pope gives his book a "highly recommended"...luckily it is currently unavailable as I have already exceeded my book budget for this month and we're only four days in!

I am interested in what he has to say about the geophysics, I'm wading through that side of things myself and it is fascinating stuff but challenging.

Ta!

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

No comment re Nick he would endorse a toilet roll. But yes he did . Pity his co-authors did not feel the same (Jim and co).Except for John of course as he has often brought Andrews work up and used him when required.

Keep plodding on. Kev is seemingly a big supporter of Andrew.

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: KilgoreTrout

No comment re Nick he would endorse a toilet roll.

Bless!

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: KilgoreTrout

Andrew is an interesting one . He sent me his book long time ago. Nice person too. Jims side went hysterical when he re -released his book. What a drama it was.

I seem to recall Jim Penniston hadn't read Andrew Pike's book before its re-release, yet had his hissy fit within 24 hours. Wish I could read half a million words in one day! The same can be said of others, I saw two interesting emails sent to Andrew from Col Halt. Seems he did the same thing. Is that a skill they teach all USAF personnel?

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Let's just say that you were sitting in a theatre watching comedian Stephen Fry deliver a monologue. Then someone from the galleries stands up and fires off 3 shots at him from a handgun. Would you stay in your seats like every member of the audience did in that clip?

So not only was I not asking you to pull my finger but I wasn't pulling your leg either. Even though you might think something stinks about it all.

originally posted by: SkywatcherUK

I seem to recall Jim Penniston hadn't read Andrew Pike's book before its re-release, yet had his hissy fit within 24 hours. Wish I could read half a million words in one day! The same can be said of others, I saw two interesting emails sent to Andrew from Col Halt. Seems he did the same thing. Is that a skill they teach all USAF personnel?

This all sounds very fishy doesn't it?

a reply to: mirageman

Well supposedly the CIA had a special 'woo room' to get people
freaked out before they tried their drugs and hypnosis.. to
further the 'mood of the performance'.

As I'm sure Zondo would agree.. the costuming is important
to a performance and once you have a successful costume
(oh shucks folks, i'm just a good ol' boy for example)
you don't change it.

(I did that one for you MM..)

I don't actually like teasing Zondo or anyone else for that
matter. I was bullied as a child.. bloodied and assaulted
so I don't care for it.. but that was low hanging fruit,
and on point.

a reply to: mirageman

Very fishy.

Almost like they tried to warn him off from publishing his book at all.

I've not stated it.. but if Kit Green's 1% true and TTSA's "a lifeform
was discovered' is true.. (sad that we are hoping that even 1% of
UFOlogy is true, isn't it??

I'd say of course that the 'life form' was not a physical form, but an
'energy construct'.

a reply to: mirageman

I remember that MM, they also brainwashed people to rob a security van when Michael Jackson thriller came on in a passing car stereo...

Bringing that back to RFI, dolan mentioned a USAF servicewoman who was based in okinawa I think that went through the sodium penathol treatment, I'll have to dig through his book to find the references again..

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I tend to agree with you there kev. I think the clur was in the terminology used..the last time I heard "life form" was star trek lol.

Much more likely it was a sentient plasma style energy statistically and scientificly than greys from billions of miles away...but I suppose that's all interpretation and bias based though.

a reply to: SkywatcherUK

Very fishy!

originally posted by: pigsy2400
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I tend to agree with you there kev. I think the clur was in the terminology used..the last time I heard "life form" was star trek lol.

Much more likely it was a sentient plasma style energy statistically and scientificly than greys from billions of miles away...but I suppose that's all interpretation and bias based though.

The thing about 'sentient plasma' or 'sentient information' is that such a life form could
theoretically travel from one end of the universe to the other, perhaps feeding on
background radiation as it went along.. and that would not require an absurd
level of technology that any sane alien race wouldn't bother with, to emulate
human fantasies about 'star trek ships', when it's far easier to just use information
for remote communication and telepresence or even just nannite-probes and that's
only if you are not a sentient energy species.

But yes.. confirmation bias..

originally posted by: SkywatcherUK
I seem to recall Jim Penniston hadn't read Andrew Pike's book before its re-release, yet had his hissy fit within 24 hours. Wish I could read half a million words in one day! The same can be said of others, I saw two interesting emails sent to Andrew from Col Halt. Seems he did the same thing. Is that a skill they teach all USAF personnel?

It appears that, around here, only you and Baa have managed to read the book and it seems now to be harder to get hold of than rocking horse #. Which makes me wonder how small the print run was on the reprint just last year.

Pike seems to be, I wouldn't say high-strung or precious about his work, but he does, despite being on the UFOCon circuit for a good few years, somewhat cagey but that seems to be part of the apparel I suppose. There is not a lot out there on the specifics of his theories, the most comprehensive synopsis being from mirageman's previous thread in this series...why is his book so hard to get hold of?