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originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: RelSciHistItSufi
If no arrests happen this year, will people still believe in Q?
originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: RelSciHistItSufi
If no arrests happen this year, will people still believe in Q?
The Anons, the people that have become aware, the ones that dig and bring more light to the corruption, the ones picking at the scab that has festered for years;
These people are Q and I will continue to believe in them even if there are no arrest.
originally posted by: nowayreally
originally posted by: crankyoldman
In other Q news that matters.
Troops at boarder per Q post numero uno. DJT making noise about an executive order concerning anchor babies.
The "arguments" from the ignorant are not surprising but reflect why this whole liberation process is such a mess. The first thing folks trot out is the 14 amendment from a document they have not read in the original language. Nearly all people talking about the "issue" are people for whom this is not and will never be an issue, which makes this "opinion" annoying to say the least.
What they fail to see is back when the document was written most boarders in the world were open and now they are not. This means the terms and conditions have changed so the understanding must change.
The 14 Amendment was meant to speak to the issues of doing business, owning land, getting the use of government services. The words "citizen" "alien" "resident" and so on all have different meanings now, which began to become a factor when the world closed the borders and introduced the Passport - passport means you are NOT free to travel. Really consider that long and hard, you must be "owned" "bar coded" and "pay" to travel where once this was not an issue.
The passport is needed because of the introduction of the Birth Certificate, or enslavement contract. Born into the US? You owe money, a lot of it, and whoever holds that certificate (the FED) is going to get their money. If you go "elsewhere" you still owe.
Back to just walking into the US and demanding work, healthcare, housing, schooling and "citizenship." The EO will allow him to do what he is going to because the US is a closed border, IMF compliant, slave state. Even more interesting the dims will challenge the order, failing to see that leaving it alone affects no one but people OUTSIDE the country wanting to get in.
Lastly. 700,000 people are already waiting to get processed by the courts. 5 years that is going to take if the new judges make themselves ill from work.
....slow clap..... always there and always speaks to the heart. Thanks cranky !
originally posted by: MindBodySpiritComplex
a reply to: FlyingFox
[FIRE]
Grill activated.
Hot_Sauce_Red.
Hot_Sauce_Green.
@Snowden
Have a seat.
No Pizza.
Coincidence [RIBS]?
Why is this important [STEAK]?
Learn our comms.
Autists thirsty?
Watch the beer.
Anons hungry?
You have more than you can eat.
BBQ
originally posted by: CanadianMason
a reply to: eisegesis
I see now. You were not talking about Freemasonry. You were talking about the O.T.O.
The word is Hebrew, and signifies holy or consecrated, and is thus intended to denote the elevated character of the Degree and the sublimity of the truths which distinguish it and its possessors from the other Degrees.
Pluche says that in the East, a person preferred to honors bore a scepter, and sometimes a plate of gold on the forehead, called a Kadosh, to apprise the people that the bearer of this mark or rod was a public person, who possessed the privilege of entering into hostile camps without the fear of losing his personal liberty.
The Degree of Kadosh, though found in many of the Rites and in various countries, seems, in all of them, to have been more or less connected with the Knights Templar. In some of the Rites it was placed at the head of the list, and was then dignified as the ne plus ultra, nothing further, of Freemasonry.
It was sometimes given as a separate order or Rite within itself, and then it was divided into the three Degrees of Illustrious Knight of the Temple, Knight of the Black Eagle, and Grand Elect.
Brother Oliver enumerates five Degrees of Kadosh: the Knight Kadosh; Kadosh of the Chapter of Clermont; Philosophical Kadosh; Kadosh Prince of Death; and Kadosh of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite.
"A power that ruled without antagonism and without concurrence, and consequently without control, proved fatal to the Sacerdotal Royalties; while the Republics, on the other hand, had perished by the conflict of liberties and franchises, which, in the absence of all duty hierarchically sanctioned and enforced, had soon become mere tyrannies, rivals one of the other. To find a stable medium between these two abysses, the idea of the Christian Hierophants was to create a society devoted to abnegation by solemn vows, protected by severe regulations; which should be recruited by initiation, and which, sole depositary of the great religious and social secrets, should make Kings and Pontiffs, without exposing it to the corruptions of Power. In that was the secret of that kingdom of Jesus Christ, which, without being of this world, would govern all its grandeurs.
"This idea presided at the foundation of the great religious orders, so often at war with the secular authorities, ecclesiastical or civil. Its realization was also the dream of the dissident sects of Gnostics or Illuminati who pretended to connect their faith with the primitive tradition of the Christianity of Saint John. It at length became a menace for the Church and Society, when a rich and dissolute Order, initiated in the mysterious doctrines of the Kabalah, seemed disposed to turn against legitimate authority the conservative principle of Hierarchy, and threatened the entire world with an immense revolution.
"The Templars, whose history is so imperfectly known, were those terrible conspirators. In 1118, nine Knights Crusaders in the East, among whom were Geoffroi de Saint-Omer and Hugues de Payens, consecrated themselves to religion, and took an oath between the hands of the Patriarch of Constantinople, a See always secretly or openly hostile to that of Rome from the time of Photius. The avowed object of the Templars was to protect the Christians who came to visit the Holy Places: their secret object was the re-building of the Temple of Solomon on the model prophesied by Ezekiel.
"This re-building, formally predicted by the Judaïzing Mystics of the earlier ages, had become the secret dream of the Patriarchs of the Orient. The Temple of Solomon, re-built and consecrated to the Catholic worship would become, in effect, the Metropolis of the Universe; the East would prevail over the West, and the Patriarchs of Constantinople would possess themselves of the Papal power.
616 Facebook Active-shooter drill planned at Squirrel Hill community center Local and federal law enforcement will conduct an active-shooter drill Thursday night at a Pittsburgh community center. Pittsburgh and Allegheny County police, as well as FBI personnel, will stage the scene at the Jewish Community Center in Squirrel Hill from 8 p.m. to midnight. "These exercises help the community, first responders and other officials know what to expect and how to react to a major situation,” said Pittsburgh Public Safety Director Wendell Hissrich. “The exercise also provides an opportunity to enhance the emergency plan as needed.”
August 31, 2018 AUSTIN, Texas
— National Guard personnel are authorized to remain on the U.S.-Mexico border for another year, the Defense Department confirmed Friday.
The authorization allows for up to 4,000 soldiers to serve with U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents through Sept. 30, 2019 — or the next fiscal year, said Army Lt. Col. Jamie Davis, a Defense Department spokesman.
originally posted by: crankyoldman
originally posted by: nowayreally
originally posted by: crankyoldman
In other Q news that matters.
Troops at boarder per Q post numero uno. DJT making noise about an executive order concerning anchor babies.
The "arguments" from the ignorant are not surprising but reflect why this whole liberation process is such a mess. The first thing folks trot out is the 14 amendment from a document they have not read in the original language. Nearly all people talking about the "issue" are people for whom this is not and will never be an issue, which makes this "opinion" annoying to say the least.
What they fail to see is back when the document was written most boarders in the world were open and now they are not. This means the terms and conditions have changed so the understanding must change.
The 14 Amendment was meant to speak to the issues of doing business, owning land, getting the use of government services. The words "citizen" "alien" "resident" and so on all have different meanings now, which began to become a factor when the world closed the borders and introduced the Passport - passport means you are NOT free to travel. Really consider that long and hard, you must be "owned" "bar coded" and "pay" to travel where once this was not an issue.
The passport is needed because of the introduction of the Birth Certificate, or enslavement contract. Born into the US? You owe money, a lot of it, and whoever holds that certificate (the FED) is going to get their money. If you go "elsewhere" you still owe.
Back to just walking into the US and demanding work, healthcare, housing, schooling and "citizenship." The EO will allow him to do what he is going to because the US is a closed border, IMF compliant, slave state. Even more interesting the dims will challenge the order, failing to see that leaving it alone affects no one but people OUTSIDE the country wanting to get in.
Lastly. 700,000 people are already waiting to get processed by the courts. 5 years that is going to take if the new judges make themselves ill from work.
....slow clap..... always there and always speaks to the heart. Thanks cranky !
NWR, It would seem DJT agrees with my assessment.
originally posted by: RelSciHistItSufi
a reply to: blueman12
I fail to understand why some are trying to tie arrests to October when there are 2 or 3 posts specifically dating arrests to 3rd, 4th and 6th of November.
Just trying to move goalposts as the shot is taken?
originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
originally posted by: crankyoldman
originally posted by: nowayreally
originally posted by: crankyoldman
In other Q news that matters.
Troops at boarder per Q post numero uno. DJT making noise about an executive order concerning anchor babies.
The "arguments" from the ignorant are not surprising but reflect why this whole liberation process is such a mess. The first thing folks trot out is the 14 amendment from a document they have not read in the original language. Nearly all people talking about the "issue" are people for whom this is not and will never be an issue, which makes this "opinion" annoying to say the least.
What they fail to see is back when the document was written most boarders in the world were open and now they are not. This means the terms and conditions have changed so the understanding must change.
The 14 Amendment was meant to speak to the issues of doing business, owning land, getting the use of government services. The words "citizen" "alien" "resident" and so on all have different meanings now, which began to become a factor when the world closed the borders and introduced the Passport - passport means you are NOT free to travel. Really consider that long and hard, you must be "owned" "bar coded" and "pay" to travel where once this was not an issue.
The passport is needed because of the introduction of the Birth Certificate, or enslavement contract. Born into the US? You owe money, a lot of it, and whoever holds that certificate (the FED) is going to get their money. If you go "elsewhere" you still owe.
Back to just walking into the US and demanding work, healthcare, housing, schooling and "citizenship." The EO will allow him to do what he is going to because the US is a closed border, IMF compliant, slave state. Even more interesting the dims will challenge the order, failing to see that leaving it alone affects no one but people OUTSIDE the country wanting to get in.
Lastly. 700,000 people are already waiting to get processed by the courts. 5 years that is going to take if the new judges make themselves ill from work.
....slow clap..... always there and always speaks to the heart. Thanks cranky !
NWR, It would seem DJT agrees with my assessment.
I was reading an article on this earlier today. The 14th Ammendment says that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States..."
That phrase, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof means that the person does not owe allegiance to any foreign government. We know this because of letters from the guy who wrote the 14th Amendment. The purpose was to make sure former slaves were considered citizens, and the children of foreign citizens (for example, ambassadors) were not considered US citizens simply because they were born here. They were not citizens because their allegiance lay with another country.
Also, it noted that Native Americans were not considered US citizens until the 1920's, when a law was enacted to make them citizens. Prior to that, they were considered citizens of their tribe.
I think the key here is "Naturalized". If I'm not mistaken, that is the process of making a foreign person a American Citizen. And once Naturalized, any child born of them, is a American Citizen. Someone put the horse before the cart. IMO
The 14th Amendment says that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States
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