Children as young as 12 risk becoming drug mules:

The county lines phenomenon involves urban gangs branching out from their city strongholds to find lucrative new markets in smaller cities and towns.

Some youngsters are being forced to work as ‘mules’ by threats of violence against them and their families.

Children as young as 12 risk becoming drug mules:

This is but one of many articles that are talking about "county lines". Drug dealers are forcing kids to sell drugs by sending them on trains, etc, out to the countryside. The Jeremy Vine radio show has a former mule on who said they were threatened with their own, or their families deaths if they did not comply.

They say that there are 50,000, but this former muke said that it is more like 150,000....running drugs out to the countryside to god know who. Many get attacked. The dealers call them, "Bics", as in the disposable pen.

This article says that only 2-3% of the population uses coc aine, but I think that is bull. I think 2-3% DONT use coke!

www.bbc.co.uk...

The mule I mentioned said that they cannot keep up with demand, which is why the dealers have started using kids.

I know peeps say to legalize it, maybe it would at least stop this practice, but honestly, the thin blue line in the UK, is so thin that it barely exists. You are much more likely to get time for speeding than stealing. My hometown doesn't even have a cop shop anymore. We gotta call the popo from 30 miles away. It's no wonder they are creeping out to the sticks to sell their evil crap.


Another link to the problem here....

www.thesun.co.uk...

a reply to: lakenheath24

Ganja is "evil crap" because politicians delegated it to the criminal underworld that as an 'entity' cares not for using kids. Which by the way it reads like a scaremongering piece, but maybe the cops did find some kids doing that.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Please point out "ganja" in any link or my post please.

This came from the Chidrens Commissioner, not some scaremongering post.

32,000 under 15 kids are in gangs. Those gangs deal drugs....mostly coke as I pointed out in the OP.
It's not a scare tactic....it's for real
www.breitbart.com...

They all ready are being used as drug mules and nothing can be done about it. This war on drugs is a big joke.

These kids aren't doing it because of some threat. That's a bunch of BS. "Oh they told me to do it or they would kill me". Yeah and these aren't my pants either. Kids are running drugs for 2 reason. First is the money, and second because they know the bleeding hearts won't punish them. They get that pitty me look, feed them a line, and they are let go to head back to work laughing their butt off. Drug cartel's aren't stupid. They're not going to tell a child that because the child is just as likely to run out of fear, as they are to make the delivery. My God people wake up. You don't send a drug dealer to rehab. That's putting them in the middle of their customers, come on. These kids are not innocent little children. As long as these dirt bags of any age are treated like you poor thing, the drug problem will only get worse. I mean think about it, do you really think that putting a drug dealer in jail for a year will make him give up the money they make? PLEASE. You make say a grand a day for 5 years, get busted spend a year in jail, get out and get a minimum wage job, Really? It hasn't happened yet and it's not going to in the future. Make drug dealing a murder charge, since we all know drugs kill, and put them away for life. I guarantee that these kids will think twice about it.

originally posted by: lakenheath24

The county lines phenomenon involves urban gangs branching out from their city strongholds to find lucrative new markets in smaller cities and towns.

Some youngsters are being forced to work as ‘mules’ by threats of violence against them and their families.

Children as young as 12 risk becoming drug mules:

This is but one of many articles that are talking about "county lines". Drug dealers are forcing kids to sell drugs by sending them on trains, etc, out to the countryside. The Jeremy Vine radio show has a former mule on who said they were threatened with their own, or their families deaths if they did not comply.

They say that there are 50,000, but this former muke said that it is more like 150,000....running drugs out to the countryside to god know who. Many get attacked. The dealers call them, "Bics", as in the disposable pen.

This article says that only 2-3% of the population uses coc aine, but I think that is bull. I think 2-3% DONT use coke!

www.bbc.co.uk...

The mule I mentioned said that they cannot keep up with demand, which is why the dealers have started using kids.

I know peeps say to legalize it, maybe it would at least stop this practice, but honestly, the thin blue line in the UK, is so thin that it barely exists. You are much more likely to get time for speeding than stealing. My hometown doesn't even have a cop shop anymore. We gotta call the popo from 30 miles away. It's no wonder they are creeping out to the sticks to sell their evil crap.


Another link to the problem here....

www.thesun.co.uk...

I full on agree with your assessment of 2 to 3 percent. I see it like this, drugs is a $400 billion dollar a year business. There are 7.5 billion people in the world. If you take out the people who have no contact with the outside world, experts say about 1.5 billion, that don't know about it. That leaves 6 billion people buying $400 billion dollars worth of drugs a year. I have a hard time believing that very few people use drugs.

originally posted by: MikeA
Make drug dealing a murder charge, since we all know drugs kill, and put them away for life.

You would need an awful lot of jails to house that many people.

I gave my mate a beer earlier, should I face a murder charge?

How much can a kid make doing that? I mean, I remember mowing lawns for a few bucks an hour as a kid, but this seems much less labor intensive.

originally posted by: MerkabaTribeEntity

originally posted by: MikeA
Make drug dealing a murder charge, since we all know drugs kill, and put them away for life.

You would need an awful lot of jails to house that many people.

I gave my mate a beer earlier, should I face a murder charge?

First thing I don't care how many jails we would need if it puts even a dent in the problem. Second, last time I checked beer was not a drug. Now if you pour beer down his/her throat then give them the car keys, then yes you should. Reason, because you knew that driving drunk kills. These people cut their drugs with everything from baby Power to rat poison just to make more money. Kids OD on their poison, or die from long term use, and they respond with not my problem. Yes 100% yes murder charges are required.

It seems obvious that drugs enforcement ("the war") is being used to make money and to increase law enforcement jobs.

Otherwise the cartel people would have been eliminated a long time ago.

originally posted by: roadgravel
It seems obvious that drugs enforcement ("the war") is being used to make money and to increase law enforcement jobs.

Otherwise the cartel people would have been eliminated a long time ago.

Law enforcement budgets and jobs are being cut all over the country, not increased. We can't shut down the cartel's because they're in Mexico, and pay local law enforcement and government to look the other way.

a reply to: MikeA

We can't shut down the cartel's because they're in Mexico

Didn't stop the US in SE Asia, Central America and the Middle East.

The police spend most of their time picking up drug offenders.

a reply to: lakenheath24

Perfect reason why we need to legalize all drugs.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: lakenheath24

Perfect reason why we need to legalize all drugs.

My only issue there is what does society do with all the people who want to spend their life high and unemployed. Is the government expected to pay their way or allow crime to?

originally posted by: roadgravel

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: lakenheath24

Perfect reason why we need to legalize all drugs.

My only issue there is what does society do with all the people who want to spend their life high and unemployed. Is the government expected to pay their way or allow crime to?

Absolutely not.

Personal responsibility.


Do all the drugs you want, but if you infringe upon the rights of others, then you get punished.

Preferably with pointy sticks or harsh language inside a jail cell.

a reply to: DBCowboy

The illegal pot issue is quite sad and a waste of time and money. Tax the stuff and give the politicians a lot more money to waste some where.

originally posted by: roadgravel
a reply to: MikeA

We can't shut down the cartel's because they're in Mexico

Didn't stop the US in SE Asia, Central America and the Middle East.

The police spend most of their time picking up drug offenders.

No you're right it didn't stop us. However the thumpers did. The Bible thumpers, and bleeding hearts. The unicorn riding, rainbow chasers who think the world's problems can be solved by looking the other way. I'm sure you know the type I'm talking about. The ones who claim to be against violence, but have no trouble demanding the rights they let others fight for. Besides if we send in the troops to solve the problem we violate our agreement with the Mexican government. Not to mention becoming responsible for the country after that. Cops do spend a lot of time picking up drug offenders, and the thumpers work hard to try and save them.

a reply to: MikeA

Yes, I know. We should respect Mexico and we do.

But we both know if Exxon or one of their friend in business wanted it then Mexico politics wouldn't matter.

It's not going to end pursuing it as it is now.

originally posted by: roadgravel
a reply to: MikeA

Yes, I know. We should respect Mexico and we do.

But we both know if Exxon or one of their friend in business wanted it then Mexico politics wouldn't matter.

It's not going to end pursuing it as it is now.

I spent 8 years in the Coast Guard chasing drug runners, so believe me when I say you're 100% correct there. For every boat stopped 5 got through. A new approach is needed because this one isn't going to work. Stop using pillows and blankets and start using steel and fire.

originally posted by: roadgravel

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: lakenheath24

Perfect reason why we need to legalize all drugs.

My only issue there is what does society do with all the people who want to spend their life high and unemployed. Is the government expected to pay their way or allow crime to?

Many studies have shown that since the 1800,s the percent of the population that do drugs have been steady around 10%.