Mollie Tibbetts' accused killer pleads not guilty to murder charges

Investigators have said Rivera arrived to the U.S. illegally from Mexico at some point between 4 and 7 years ago and an immigration detainer was placed on him after his arrest.

In August, United States Citizenship and Immigration Services told Fox News "a search of records by USCIS revealed Rivera did not make any DACA requests nor were any grants given.

“We have found no record in our systems indicating he has any lawful immigration status,” the agency added.

Mollie Tibbetts' accused killer pleads not guilty to murder charges

I remember the lawyer saying they would prove he's been here legally. Guess that's not true.

I think daca applies to peeps here before 2007 so no daca request would be valid in his case.

Crazy how a person can admit to something then plea not guilty.

At this point, who would you consider to be "legally" here in America?

a reply to: return35

People born here or here with permission.

How can you confess and led investigator to a body and then plead not guilty?

Or maybe it will be not guilty but reason of insanity? He did say he "blacked out" and then when he came to he saw her earbud and checked the trunk.

a reply to: headorheart

Maybe it was the other guy, the one whose identity he stole that did it and he was confused.

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Now that I would like to see play out in court.

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Still waiting for this evidence he's legal to appear.

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Oh I wasn't arguing that he was legal. I just genuinely would like to see the argument in court that he didn't do it because he was using a different identity.

Fact is, I don't care (in relations to this case) if he is legal. He murdered someone, he gets what he gets.

While I have my own views on how we need to tighten up our immigration practices, I hate that people are using this case as political propaganda.

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Oh I know I was just using it as an example of the things he will lie about.

a reply to: return35

Anyone who’s not here illegally

originally posted by: howtonhawky
I think daca applies to peeps here before 2007 so no daca request would be valid in his case.

Crazy how a person can admit to something then plea not guilty.

Not really. A good interrogator can get most people to admit to anything. It's called psychology. I'm guessing you've never watched "the first 48" or seen any interrogation videos.

originally posted by: kelbtalfenek

originally posted by: howtonhawky
I think daca applies to peeps here before 2007 so no daca request would be valid in his case.

Crazy how a person can admit to something then plea not guilty.

Not really. A good interrogator can get most people to admit to anything. It's called psychology. I'm guessing you've never watched "the first 48" or seen any interrogation videos.

I do not watch murder porn.

I am aware that people are free to plea however they want.

I was just showing how crazy the laws can be in some clear cut cases like this where the guy admitted it and he led them to the body.I am not in favor of changing any thing regarding the process though.

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: kelbtalfenek

originally posted by: howtonhawky
I think daca applies to peeps here before 2007 so no daca request would be valid in his case.

Crazy how a person can admit to something then plea not guilty.

Not really. A good interrogator can get most people to admit to anything. It's called psychology. I'm guessing you've never watched "the first 48" or seen any interrogation videos.

I do not watch murder porn.

I am aware that people are free to plea however they want.

I was just showing how crazy the laws can be in some clear cut cases like this where the guy admitted it and he led them to the body.I am not in favor of changing any thing regarding the process though.

I am, if I was the dad I would have shot him Jack Ruby style.

Way too much sympathy for actual maniacs in this world.

Nevermind

originally posted by: headorheart
How can you confess and led investigator to a body and then plead not guilty?

Or maybe it will be not guilty but reason of insanity? He did say he "blacked out" and then when he came to he saw her earbud and checked the trunk.

I still want to know how someone can just blackout and not remember what they just did. "oh, I chased her then I blacked out, then I just happened to be back driving again... *sigh For her family, I sure hope he doesn't get away with it.

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: kelbtalfenek

originally posted by: howtonhawky
I think daca applies to peeps here before 2007 so no daca request would be valid in his case.

Crazy how a person can admit to something then plea not guilty.

Not really. A good interrogator can get most people to admit to anything. It's called psychology. I'm guessing you've never watched "the first 48" or seen any interrogation videos.

I do not watch murder porn.

I am aware that people are free to plea however they want.

I was just showing how crazy the laws can be in some clear cut cases like this where the guy admitted it and he led them to the body.I am not in favor of changing any thing regarding the process though.

"The first 48" isn't murder porn. I don't watch murder porn either sir. However it does allow a glimpse into the psychology behind interrogations. Interrogators are allowed to lie and threaten and create scenarios including role playing.

That's why it's always best to NEVER speak to the police.