If you still dont think this isnt a globalist coup d'etat........

a reply to: Ansuzrune

Yes I know all about the fake NWO conspiracy. Here's the thing. It is ridiculous. The idea that there is a secret organization that transcends generations is ridiculous. For one, how many children want to follow in their parents' footsteps without ever rebelling against them? You think this would be different for the uber elite?

It's more likely that events are random and bad things happen all the time for many many different reasons. Using your fear of a conspiracy to justify taking up arms against your fellow countrymen isn't going to float though. Ever.

Socialism was brought to the country in the 1860's and the first Socialists were the original Republican party. Including Lincoln. Up until the recent political conversations, both political sides supported it too. The only thing that has changed since then is that the Koch brothers effectively bought out the Republican party and Roger Ailes started Fox News to string along that narrative.

a reply to: Krazysh0t
It is not ridiculous. There are many things written on the subject. You can choose to accept it or not. I am not going to call your observations or sources ridiculous. The Bilderberg meetings, Council on Foreign Relations., Trilateral commission all have ties to this. Live in the matrix or out of it. This is the choice we have in this life. You choose to believe mainstream media. I believe those who do their research and my own.

I guess you do not believe that a meeting on Jeckyl Island ever happened. From that meeting came the Federal Reserve. You accept J.P.Morgans assumption that bankers need to run a countries money system. I guess you do not believe Woodrow Wilson signed that terrible piece of legislation and then said essentially I have ruined my country. Look dude there are many facts out there that point too this ruthless conspiracy. Hell George Herbert Walker Bush in a state of the union speech referred to a New world order and said there will be a new world order. Truth is stranger than fiction. The comfort zone for some people is to ride Occam's razor and live life simply without the complexity of suspicion in government. I jumped down the rabbit hole and have found that this truth explains many more events than raises questions. Your choice your life. Live it to the fullest and be very patient because even though I am older I don't plan on giving you the satisfaction of dying soon.

a reply to: Ansuzrune

The leftists have demonized traditional values and logic, reason and evidence since the French Revolution of it's promise of Liberty, Equality, and Brotherhood all at the end of a gun or guillotine. Jacobins and Sabbatean Frankists lead to Marxism and the proposition that there are only oppressors and oppressed.

What is truly sad is that the blood that will be spilled in the next conflict is not the elites who are watching from their lofty perches.

I'm just waiting for the war to begin and I'll be beside you brother.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Free of violence? Are you kidding? Since the CFR runs things there are continuous global conflicts. The globalists call it "managed conflict" . Not to mention the rise of such violent protests as Antifa, who have ties to communism. There is a difference between being global and being a globalist. Globalists are Internationalist. They have no loyalty to any one nation, but that flies in the face of true Patriotism. No loyalty, no problem just sell out whoever you feel like at any time if it suits their greedy desires. I'm sick of hearing liberals whine about selfishness when they support this type of globalist exploitation.

a reply to: ker2010

Oh come on, I bet you can't wait! Finally get to really use some of them gunz!

a reply to: Ansuzrune

Oh I see you are really stuck in your ways, well the current way of doing things is not working and until we remove the dinosaurs responsible for the stagnation nothing will get better.

The simple fact that your only solution is to kill people that do not agree with you shows just how far gone you are, you accuse others of being the problem while ignoring the fact that its your generation has perpetrated this cycle of madness .

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Not my generation you idiot. It is the New World Order. My generation suffered the most and the one before it. I do not want to kill anything. I will how ever protect my country from Communism. It is a failed philosophy and form of government. I do not want to see my country become a dystopian police nanny state. Jeez get a life youngling.

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a reply to: Ansuzrune

It already is a police state run by corporations, get your head out the sand and stop trying g to shift the blame.

a reply to: kaylaluv
MY GUNZ shoot targets period. I don't even hunt anymore. I shoot cowboy action shooting. We have fun with guns. Surprised.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Did I imply that I supported corporate owned everything. NO. My own profession is being bought out by corporations. I did not go to nine years of college to be controlled by corporations. But I would rather face this now than communism later. That is why I support this current president. He has both sides on his ass. Funny he must be stirring the pot and maybe just maybe he is really draining the swamp. Sit back and watch.

Also if this is such a police state where are the re-education camps? With communism comes re-education camps. I see none now. You going to get inheritance? If the commies come to power kiss that goodbye.

Sir Winston Churchill put it quite succinctly
" Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, it's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

a reply to: Ansuzrune

Communism and socialism didn't get us in this mess, unfettered capitalism has.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Malignant capitalism is terrible also I agree. But it was bill Clinton that did away with Glass Steagle act. This allowed banks to become investment firms as well. We got the problems with bubbles and such. So no we agree on a lot of things.I will repeat myself. There is a NWO conspiracy to bring down this country with Communism/socialism as it modus operandi. Why do you keep defending the opposite of what I say? You a commie?

a reply to: Ansuzrune

We agree to a point, I agree that is the end game but I don't agree with how you think its going to good down.

Left/right, liberal/conservative, Republican/Democrat... Does anyone else find it odd that anyone believing in an actual NWO conspiracy uses those terms? If you truly believe in such a massive conspiracy then doesn't it stand to reason that they control both sides and manipulate people into following one or the other, and then seemingly pitting them against each other when in fact they both are working towards the same end goal? The easiest way to control the common person is to keep them confused, angry, and play to their existing preconceptions/prejudices.

With that in mind who would believe Trump is actually trying to bring this conspiracy to light or even end it - has he drained the swamp or has he done the exact opposite by appointing people into key positions that have effectively doubled-down on increasing the corporate hold over this country? They want to rollback almost everything that was put in place to protect consumers, citizens, and students - student loans, environmental protections on water/air pollution, and anything else that you could think of that would give corporations an earnings boost while shafting the normal citizen.

We've essentially lost control of our government - happened a long time ago in fact - but since that very loss of control hasn't resulted in an actual NWO event materializing so far, I'm prone to believe that we simply live in messed up times with messed up leaders. Not saying that there aren't malign groups out there - too much evidence to the contrary - but that such group's efforts have only contributed to the mess we currently have, not moved us any closer to some world unifying world government that an elite few will run.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Ok no problems here. Either way bad S@#t is going to happen. Peace!! Have a stupendous weekend!!

a reply to: Ansuzrune

Right back at ya..

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: M5xaz

Like I said, we can take care of ourselves AND give consideration to non-citizens as well. It’s not like we can only do one or the other.

Agreed, but the government's primary obligation remains to its' CITIZENS, not illegals.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Ansuzrune

Yes I know all about the fake NWO conspiracy. Here's the thing. It is ridiculous. The idea that there is a secret organization that transcends generations is ridiculous. For one, how many children want to follow in their parents' footsteps without ever rebelling against them? You think this would be different for the uber elite?

It's more likely that events are random and bad things happen all the time for many many different reasons. Using your fear of a conspiracy to justify taking up arms against your fellow countrymen isn't going to float though. Ever.

Socialism was brought to the country in the 1860's and the first Socialists were the original Republican party. Including Lincoln. Up until the recent political conversations, both political sides supported it too. The only thing that has changed since then is that the Koch brothers effectively bought out the Republican party and Roger Ailes started Fox News to string along that narrative.

Howard Zinn is that you? Cause that's a whole lotta revisionist history going on there. You do have a right to your beliefs, as we all do. But I think you need to do a bit more research. The bit about the Republican Party being socialist is a bit far flung, or maybe you just can't bring yourself to admit it started in the Democrat camp. However, closer to the truth is that Yale imported Hegelianism, which Marx and Engels embraced very much.
I haven't the time to explain more deeply just now, but I hope to find more time.