National Solar Observatory, USPS office in Sunspot, NM evacuated for 'safety reasons'

a reply to: Mactaddy

As Frued said “sometimes a cigar is just a cigar” if the worlds ending it’s sure taking its sweet time to do so, this was something little mishandled in a huge way.

Seems we have rubbery rules for thread drift.

Some threads get caned while others just end up like this.

The only difference is the topic.

One ring to rule them all.

Yes, I am upset. Can of bloody worms.

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Seems someone’s salty are other threads on this subject not being locked down? I’ve seen at least 2 catch the thread lock hammer. We came to an impass and are just having some banter until they open shop back up Monday.

originally posted by: askbaby
a reply to: SeaWorthy

Thank you Seaworthy.
OK - so even with a basic assumption that 'one' is just offline, 'one' is closed, 'one' under maintenance - this leaves us with others that have seemingly gone offline without any clear explanation - a strange puzzle.

If this were some anomaly viewable by solar observatories - they would have to close them all if there is an attempt to stop disclosure of whatever this is, and yet thee are clearly observatories open, and no notifications coming forth of anything.

Which in turn leads one to wonder if this specific location experienced something.

Which then leads one to wonder - why would they not have a guard at the gate - or literally ANYONE at the facility, allowing people to literally wander about a facility that presumably has millions of dollars of equipment!

This just gets stranger.

Are there any ATS members within driving distance of the facility - please... if you are close by - well Saturday or Sunday would be a nice day to visit the facility!

It is great to have an exciting event again on ATS.

Sincerely
askbaby

Even a Little Ice Age would be catastrophic to our world community. This eventuality in the next couple of years and moving forward decades or longer is pretty much a lock. The information you seek to quantify our sun going dormant and setting us up for future challenges is easily accessed if you look. At this point, a Little Ice Age would be great, followed by a continuation of our warm interglacial which has statistically run over its due date. People need to be aware and understand what is happening.

originally posted by: BigDave-AR
a reply to: Mactaddy

As Frued said “sometimes a cigar is just a cigar” if the worlds ending it’s sure taking its sweet time to do so, this was something little mishandled in a huge way.

Hi Big Dave,

Your point is well received. My point is not about the world coming to an end but moreso about a lack of citizen control to help guide our fate with real knowledge. We're being duped and, ironically, led by people that are less intelligent than most citizens. This 'New Mexico' thing is simply one example.

that's the explanation? A criminal individual around the area that might be a danger for the public and the workers in Sunspot. FBI involved yet no visible manhunt? Sherriff doesn't know nothing. No rumor coming from the people who live/work there. I am glad it was not for aliens coming, lets be honest a mothership the size of a planet is not the first contact we would benefit from, but still, all this for a dude? And the soo called footage that changed into data? Will that change to CCTV data now, about this wild criminal roaming in the forest?

originally posted by: BigDave-AR
Seems someone’s salty are other threads on this subject not being locked down? I’ve seen at least 2 catch the thread lock hammer. We came to an impass and are just having some banter until they open shop back up Monday.

Mods are not permitted to be in a thread as a member and mod the thread as well.

Salty ... perhaps a bit more than that.

One rule for them and whatever they want for us.

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Hi All,

This has evolved into a very robust conversation... one with more questions than answers. I'm sure this has the attention of many here who are quick to solve most mysteries, if only to their own satisfaction. Is there any interest here in viewing the scientific records of the solar cycles and how they correspond to impacts on Earth? Maybe graphs of interglacials throughout recent history. Question: Would you rather meander along in life, with a potential calamity imminent, knowing or not knowing it would strike at some point in days or years...? Shutting down top global solar facilities is a canary in the coal-mine.

The scientific, academic and political charlatans, as powerful as they may be, cannot control the Earth cycle which has existed for millions of years, since the creation of the Panama Isthmus more pointedly. They have sucked up vasts amounts of citizen money pretending they could. But, quite frankly, they cannot. I imagine what we are witnessing is 'damage control' by a cabal that has no chance against the sun... no matter how many microwaves or geo-engineering projects they waste our money on. Waste is the key word here. Science sells to government, government funds major projects... these projects today are classified and covert because they are so reckless and damaging to our world and our lives. These people are playing god and they have no right. HAARP is simply one of many many projects underway to control climate. Even microwaving our planet into a tinder-box will not stop the effects of an inactive sun.


If you find a better explanation for bringing blackhawks in to shut down peaceful solar facilities other than THE SUN is becoming a player in geo-political politics, I'd love to hear it.


Cheers!

a reply to: Mactaddy

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: Mactaddy

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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Think its less complicated. Why shut down a solar observation lab if not because of the sun... especially given the Suns major role is the scientific and geo-political discussion on the global platform. I think people just need to learn about the grand solar minimum we are entering. Other conspiracies don't make sense. This is simply a ploy to buy time for a cabal that has no future. A global elite that ignored this inevitability because they prayed it would not happen in their lifetime. Guess what...

a reply to: Mactaddy

coincidences just still giving...
s ource

The Trump administration will send a message to all US mobile phones on Thursday, as it tests an unused alert system that warns the public about national emergencies.

I got it, this is not new, also I got it, Florence is currently taking lives. Still, nationwide, every cellphones in the US? Now?

I am surprised to see people ignore evidence and jump towards theories whilst ignoring the information that already exists. It's smarter to work with what we have than what we don't have.

Firstly, a Reddit user debunked the theory that other solar observatories or cameras were shut down around the same time.
www.reddit.com...

Is there any proof of other observatories being affected?

The lack of proof here makes me think it isn't directly linked to solar issues.

Let's consider what happened. FBI were seen using antennas and Blackhawks helicopters. Blackhawk helicopters are often used for issues surrounding electronic warfare. Here is some info regarding the gear on board: www.baesystems.com...

As for the antennas: check out this link on what small antennas are used for. Again - electronic warfare is mentioned.
news.wisc.edu...

I haven't had time to analyse the gear but if anyone has a grip with this stuff - mind breaking down these links in relation to the site or neighbouring sites?

Then there is this video... this dude is just walking around the area and filming it. There is no one there on stand by. Nothing has been seen to be moved, altered, broken, transported etc. What does this imply? Sounds again like issues surrounding electronic warfare / sensitive information issues.

Scroll down --- second video

www.google.co.uk...

Also this dude has been around the area filming it too...

www.youtube.com...

He post a video where he claims his phone and watch were affected at the site.. perhaps due to radio signals ...

youtu.be...

He also takes a drone over the space.... Read the description under the link... Again he mentions communication issues ... And attempts to see if the communication towers have been affected... Haven't checked to see if there is any info on this yet... But take a look...

youtu.be...

His second uploaded video states that these videos may soon be taken down. He discusses the possibility of a spy who was observing the neighbouring missile range... I haven't had time to look into the neighbouring areas and the link between the observatories and them... But I believe this to be of crucial importance... what's the evidence surrounding this?

Looks like the observatory is due to reopen too...

Looks like the observatory is due to reopen too...

It may well open up again and with a new crew and specific technologies removed. Read staff was sent to other states but those reports are unconfirmed. Also read the military eviction involved individuals high on towers dismantling hardware. Why would anyone hack a solar research center unless they were interested in our research on the sun? If that is even a theory. This is about the SUN people. The facility is one of the most advanced in existence and unlike others, maintained a tight grip on its research... only sharing it with a select few bodies. They were created by the government, were closely tied to the federal government and worked on federal lands...easy to shut down.

I'm just calling a spade a spade really. Keep the conspiracy theories alive! It's healthy to cover all bases. To me, personally, I just believe (at this point) that the solar observatory shutdown has to do with the sun, and the solar minimum we will be dealing with starting next year.

Was the white sands theory shut down? Would be an obvious point of interest for spying.

After many hours of search for the real reason of NSO evacuation,

it appears FOXSI rocket launch was the actual reason for the evacuation.

foxsi.umn.edu...

It was launched off the White Sands, NM on 9/7.

It's a rocket that shoots straight up and comes right back down to earth with the parachute opened.

I presume it landed somewhere recently safe and that's why the NSO reopens on monday.

originally posted by: BigDave-AR
Seems someone’s salty are other threads on this subject not being locked down? I’ve seen at least 2 catch the thread lock hammer. We came to an impass and are just having some banter until they open shop back up Monday.

Sorry, but the rest of us do not come to this massive long thread to read page after page about off-topic trucking stuff.

It's actually against the rules on this forum to post off-topic. Usually such posts are removed.

“AURA has been cooperating with an ongoing law enforcement investigation of criminal activity that occurred at Sacramento Peak. During this time, we became concerned that a suspect in the investigation potentially posed a threat to the safety of local staff and residents. For this reason, AURA temporarily vacated the facility and ceased science activities at this location. “The decision to vacate was based on the logistical challenges associated with protecting personnel at such a remote location, and the need for expeditious response to the potential threat. AURA determined that moving the small number of on-site staff and residents off the mountain was the most prudent and effective action to ensure their safety. “In light of recent developments in the investigation, we have determined there is no risk to staff, and Sunspot Solar Observatory is transitioning back to regular operations as of September 17th. Given the significant amount of publicity the temporary closure has generated, and the consequent expectation of an unusual number of visitors to the site, we are temporarily engaging a security service while the facility returns to a normal working environment.”

reason for evac

leolady

a reply to: Mactaddy

I am interested!

I have always had an interest in the science of astronomy, but my knowledge is low level. I have bookmarks to all kinds of sites, and try to educate myself frequently.

This past week I have been pouring over data every day to see what is going on, and to see if it could have something to do with the actions at the solar observatory.

I have seen things in recent data that are odd, but I do not know enough to interpret it.

Today there is an alert for a G4 geomagnetic storm. There were a few days of G4 last week. I wonder if something bigger is coming.

a reply to: leolady

Thanks. That statement was posted a few pages ago, but it seems like a cover story.

The excuse they give for not revealing the reason days ago does not make sense. The investigation was all over the news, so if a person was being investigated, they would likely have already known.

I'm not convinced yet of the real reason, but I have doubts about the above.

If it was a "simple" criminal, their reaction was overblown. I think it might be possible that the "criminal" activity was related to spying or sabotage by another nation. If so, we may never know the truth.

I also think that it is still possible that the real issue was related to solar data that they want to control and keep under wraps.

a reply to: leolady

It took almost 2 weeks for them to come up with this BS story...and nobody arrested.
I'm sure this is a good reason to dismantle the radio towers and haul them away, as well as
disconnecting power lines fro some of the buildings.
Yeah.
right.