Democracy At Work Is The Only Way To Stop Billionaires Like Bezos

Corporations have been declared persons now right?

We the people should be able to take corporations to trial for crimes they commit, and if found guilty of severe enough crimes, there should be a 'corporate death penalty.'

Boards disbanded, and all assets seized and liquidated.

a reply to: notsure1

Amazon makes 3 billion. So way below your limit.

originally posted by: Lightdhype
Corporations have been declared persons now right?

We the people should be able to take corporations to trial for crimes they commit, and if found guilty of severe enough crimes, there should be a 'corporate death penalty.'

Boards disbanded, and all assets seized and liquidated.

That sounds nice in theory, but such a thing could potentially crash the economy. If a major corporation were shut down like this, it would be cool to watch the board members suffer, but at the same time all the people employed by that company would suddenly be out of work. The bigger the company, the bigger the impact that would have on the economy too.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: notsure1

Amazon makes 3 billion. So way below your limit.

I said one guy not one company. Bezos makes 250 million a day. 30 grand every 10 seconds.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Maybe this is wrong, but have you seen people that work at Walmart. At least the walmart that is by me the people move slower than sloths. Maybe it is because they don't get a living wage, or maybe because they are lazy. I don't know, but I do know one thing for sure, they don't even deserve minimum wage at the level they are working. I am dead serious. At the rate that they are moving, they deserve at most about $1.50 a hour. Our Walmart has gone to online orders and even that weird robotic pick up thing. It is 10000000% faster than any worker there.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Of all the bills that Sanders sponsored, we have the following breakdown:

357 introduced by Sanders
190 were considered by committee
12 were considered by the floor
1 failed one chamber
6 passed one chamber
3 passed both chambers, went to the President, and became law
Those three bills, according to Congress.gov, are:

S.893 Introduced 5/8/13. The Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013 which became law in November 2013

S.885 Introduced 5/7/13. A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 35 Park Street in Danville, Vermont, as the “Thaddeus Stevens Post Office” became law in November 2014.

H.R.5245 Introduced 4/27/06. To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1 Marble Street in Fair Haven, Vermont, as the “Matthew Lyon Post Office Building” became law in August 2006.

Source of the above.

So he renamed a couple of post offices and sponsored a Bill almost certain to pass.

Bernie is a Democratic Socialist, not a Democrat and he caucuses with the Democrats because how else could he get elected? He might get a few people on board, the leftist of the left, but it will not pass and he knows that.

Bernie Sanders is running for the Democratic nomination in Vermont — but he won’t accept it if he wins.

The famously independent senator, who briefly joined the Democratic Party to run in the 2016 New Hampshire presidential primary only to un-enroll later, officially announced Monday that he would seek a third term in the Senate this fall. He also said that he’ll pull the same maneuver that he did in his 2006 and 2012 Senate races: Running as a Democrat, declining the nomination when he wins and then running as an independent.

The move makes it virtually impossible for another Democrat to seek the party’s nod.

Source

Cake and eat it too? There may just be some actual Democrats who would like to run and it's likely true Hillary lost in part due to Bernie. In my thinking, all this Bill is is a campaign gimmick, the same as the gimmick of all the promises he makes he knows for a fact won't pass and if they did there would be no way to pay for it.

Nice campaign ploy, but beyond that meaningless. He's securing his Socialist base inside the Democratic Party with look at me, look at what I did and evil people who don't agree with me stopped it.

Republicans and Democrats do the same thing all the time for the same reasons. Not saying he is any worse, but this Bill is not serious.

a reply to: notsure1

So 90 billion a year salary. I think not. Or are you including his stocks worth and not his actual salary? How dare he create something successful, we need to steal it from him.

a reply to: JasonBillung

The term dominionism as I think of it relates back to the commandment early in the Bible where it tells people to just go out and take. Take what they need.

Not believing in the Bible myself I take note when it tells it's followers

1And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. 2The fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth and upon every bird of the heavens, upon everything that creeps on the ground and all the fish of the sea. Into your hand they are delivered. 3Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything. 4But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. 5And for your lifeblood I will require a reckoning: from every beast I will require it and from man. From his fellow man I will require a reckoning for the life of man.

This simple commandment has ridden high in all the philosophies of western man. It basically negates the idea of sustainability and resource renewal.

Going to the internet and looking it up we can find any number of ways and ideas that followers of this ethic act on a global scale.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: notsure1

So 90 billion a year salary. I think not. Or are you including his stocks worth and not his actual salary? How dare he create something successful, we need to steal it from him.

Check the numbers yourself I didnt just pull them out of my ass. He will be a triillionaire in less than a decade.

I said it wouldnt be popular.. But I dont give a shi either.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Interesting. Still believing in living the "goat-herder-just-off-the-boat" life.

a reply to: notsure1

His salary is less than 90k a year. His networth is all stocks because of Amazon's worth. So basically you want the government to steal successful businesses from people.

No thanks.

It's funny how this site works. Jeff Bezos is the devil until you start talking about his wealth. Then all of a sudden he must defended at all costs.

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: notsure1

Amazon makes 3 billion. So way below your limit.

I said one guy not one company. Bezos makes 250 million a day. 30 grand every 10 seconds.

Bezos makes money from the appreciation of his ownership in Amazon, not because he is paying himself that kind of money. Some of you really have idea how corporations and business works and it shows from your comments / answers.

Bezo's shares in Amazon have made him uber rich because other investors from your grandma's pension to individual stock holders have determined that Amazon has a lot of future value and thus is a great investment and as such have driven up the share price of the stock which makes Bezo's (and tens of thousands of other Amazon employees) wealthy.

Amazon as a company only makes about $3 billion in profit on revenues of more than $100 million. That is a really low profit margin. That $3 billion goes back into the company and is distributed to shareholders (of which their are millions).

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: notsure1

His salary is less than 90k a year. His networth is all stocks because of Amazon's worth. So basically you want the government to steal successful businesses from people.

No thanks.

LOL. Yeah right..

It is not all in stocks that is some stupid BS right there..

People buy # from Amazon with money actual tangible money some of every one of those sales goes to Bezos.

But yeah his salary is 90 k a year . Thats laughable..

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Because people that make $90k a year regularly buy 26,000 sq/ft houses.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: notsure1

Amazon makes 3 billion. So way below your limit.

I said one guy not one company. Bezos makes 250 million a day. 30 grand every 10 seconds.

Bezos makes money from the appreciation of his ownership in Amazon, not because he is paying himself that kind of money. Some of you really have idea how corporations and business works and it shows from your comments / answers.

Bezo's shares in Amazon have made him uber rich because other investors from your grandma's pension to individual stock holders have determined that Amazon has a lot of future value and thus is a great investment and as such have driven up the share price of the stock which makes Bezo's (and tens of thousands of other Amazon employees) wealthy.

Amazon as a company only makes about $3 billion in profit on revenues of more than $100 million. That is a really low profit margin. That $3 billion goes back into the company and is distributed to shareholders (of which their are millions).

You guys really do drink that kool aide hard huh.. His net worth is over 160 billion ..

You guys are right though all hale bezos ..

They only make 3 billion LMAO. But last year alone Bezos net worth went up almost 50 billion in a year.

But yeah keep believeing that bs they tell you about how they only made 3..

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: notsure1

Amazon makes 3 billion. So way below your limit.

I said one guy not one company. Bezos makes 250 million a day. 30 grand every 10 seconds.

Bezos makes money from the appreciation of his ownership in Amazon, not because he is paying himself that kind of money. Some of you really have idea how corporations and business works and it shows from your comments / answers.

Bezo's shares in Amazon have made him uber rich because other investors from your grandma's pension to individual stock holders have determined that Amazon has a lot of future value and thus is a great investment and as such have driven up the share price of the stock which makes Bezo's (and tens of thousands of other Amazon employees) wealthy.

Amazon as a company only makes about $3 billion in profit on revenues of more than $100 million. That is a really low profit margin. That $3 billion goes back into the company and is distributed to shareholders (of which their are millions).

You guys really do drink that kool aide hard huh.. His net worth is over 160 billion ..

You guys are right though all hale bezos ..

You don't understand difference between net worth and income... you aren't smart enough to be having this conversation. It is above your pay grade.

Net worth / wealth is what you own....

Income is what you make in any given year...

Bezo's wealth increased because his shares' value increased along with anyone else who owns stock in Amazon. When they say he made $67 billion, it isn't like he got a check for that amount. Just the total value of his shares increased by that amount. That can also be wiped out if the value of the company decreases.

While these people are certainly uber rich, people don't understand these figures are just the value of their holdings if they were to sell everything they own.... not what they are actually making in a given year. Bezo's might be making say $100 million or heck maybe even a billion selling investments, but he is not "paying himself" that money.

Entrepreneurs make their money not from salaries, but when they eventually sell their company through either an IPO or outright after they've grown the company to a certain point.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: notsure1

Amazon makes 3 billion. So way below your limit.

I said one guy not one company. Bezos makes 250 million a day. 30 grand every 10 seconds.

Bezos makes money from the appreciation of his ownership in Amazon, not because he is paying himself that kind of money. Some of you really have idea how corporations and business works and it shows from your comments / answers.

Bezo's shares in Amazon have made him uber rich because other investors from your grandma's pension to individual stock holders have determined that Amazon has a lot of future value and thus is a great investment and as such have driven up the share price of the stock which makes Bezo's (and tens of thousands of other Amazon employees) wealthy.

Amazon as a company only makes about $3 billion in profit on revenues of more than $100 million. That is a really low profit margin. That $3 billion goes back into the company and is distributed to shareholders (of which their are millions).

You guys really do drink that kool aide hard huh.. His net worth is over 160 billion ..

You guys are right though all hale bezos ..

You don't understand difference between net worth and income... you aren't smart enough to be having this conversation. It is above your pay grade.

Net worth / wealth is what you own....

Income is what you make in any given year...

Bezo's wealth increased because his shares' value increased along with anyone else who owns stock in Amazon. When they say he made $67 billion, it isn't like he got a check for that amount. Just the total value of his shares increased by that amount. That can also be wiped out if the value of the company decreases.

While these people are certainly uber rich, people don't understand these figures are just the value of their holdings if they were to sell everything they own.... not what they are actually making in a given year. Bezo's might be making say $100 million or heck maybe even a billion selling investments, but he is not "paying himself" that money.

Entrepreneurs make their money not from salaries, but when they eventually sell their company through either an IPO or outright after they've grown the company to a certain point.

I know all hale Bezos.. Bow to your master.

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: notsure1

Amazon makes 3 billion. So way below your limit.

I said one guy not one company. Bezos makes 250 million a day. 30 grand every 10 seconds.

Bezos makes money from the appreciation of his ownership in Amazon, not because he is paying himself that kind of money. Some of you really have idea how corporations and business works and it shows from your comments / answers.

Bezo's shares in Amazon have made him uber rich because other investors from your grandma's pension to individual stock holders have determined that Amazon has a lot of future value and thus is a great investment and as such have driven up the share price of the stock which makes Bezo's (and tens of thousands of other Amazon employees) wealthy.

Amazon as a company only makes about $3 billion in profit on revenues of more than $100 million. That is a really low profit margin. That $3 billion goes back into the company and is distributed to shareholders (of which their are millions).

You guys really do drink that kool aide hard huh.. His net worth is over 160 billion ..

You guys are right though all hale bezos ..

You don't understand difference between net worth and income... you aren't smart enough to be having this conversation. It is above your pay grade.

Net worth / wealth is what you own....

Income is what you make in any given year...

Bezo's wealth increased because his shares' value increased along with anyone else who owns stock in Amazon. When they say he made $67 billion, it isn't like he got a check for that amount. Just the total value of his shares increased by that amount. That can also be wiped out if the value of the company decreases.

While these people are certainly uber rich, people don't understand these figures are just the value of their holdings if they were to sell everything they own.... not what they are actually making in a given year. Bezo's might be making say $100 million or heck maybe even a billion selling investments, but he is not "paying himself" that money.

Entrepreneurs make their money not from salaries, but when they eventually sell their company through either an IPO or outright after they've grown the company to a certain point.

I know all hale Bezos.. Bow to your master.

Just admit you lost the debate... nothing to be ashamed of. Think of this intellectual beat down as a learning experience.