Bob Woodward: "Administrative Coup D'etat"

Defense Secretary JAMES MATTIS says that Bob Woodward's book is disgusting, and so is Bob Woodward.

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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Trump was given the same test we give dementia patients and scored perfect, so enough with the unsubstantiated accusations.

Actual people have come forward and said Woodward is lying.

originally posted by: carewemust
Defense Secretary JAMES MATTIS says that Bob Woodward's book is disgusting, and so is Bob Woodward.
REF: twitchy.com...

And if I recall, all the President's men gave poor reviews for "All The President's Men."
Tick-tick-tick...

a reply to: NiNjABackflip

Things like this never go well and always ends up in a far worse scandal than what it is.

Protecting the President from some mistakes that is fine, but this is something far different and worse than that. The last time that there was a case like this, where the aides were going behind a presidents back, was the Iran-Contra affair, where it came out that white house aides were selling arms to Iran, and using the proceeds to fund the Contra’s in their war against the Nicaragua, Both actions were against the law, and ultimately it ended up with one person ending up taking all of the blame, and giving the President a bad look.

But beyond that, the one question that I have, is if the man is that dangerous, why are they not seeking to remove him? After all the next in line is the VP. Or is this a case where Trump is dangerous and reckless, and Pence is also not acceptable and just as dangerous?

Too many questions, and not enough answers.

The only other thing, is that if this is as bad as it is reported, then it is starting to confirm the other 2 books that are out there, and from what reporting is there, all three are saying the same thing.

a reply to: gortex

Fake news yet again!... White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly has stated he did not say this and would never have said anything like that even if it was true...

White House Blasts Woodward Book’s ‘Fabricated Stories,’ John Kelly Denies Calling Trump an ‘Idiot’

This is not the first time the "left-wing fake news media" has made up such a story using almost the exact same claims...

White House chief of staff John Kelly denies calling Trump an 'idiot'

Obviously there are aholes in the left trying to create conflict within the White House because "they have no evidence of any collusion with Russia..."

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Fake news yet again!... White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly has stated he did not say this and would never have said anything like that even if it was true...

Maybe , or perhaps that's all Kelly could say to protect both himself and his boss.
The problem is that what Pulitzer prize winning author Woodward has written tallies with other reports of the dysfunctional White House and its erratic President.

This is not the first time the "left-wing fake news media" has made up such a story using almost the exact same claims...

Best stick to the Right Wing "Fake News Media" of Fox and Breitbart then.

Obviously there are aholes in the left trying to create conflict within the White House because "they have no evidence of any collusion with Russia..."

Either that or the warning signs are there but you and other loyalists choose to ignore them.

I wonder who is the biggest propagator of "Fake News" , the Media or the President.

A government photographer edited official pictures of Donald Trump’s inauguration to make the crowd appear bigger following a personal intervention from the president, according to newly released documents.
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originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: NiNjABackflip

Is it due to fear caused by the media or fear caused by Trump the man? It's said that due to his dwindling cognitive abilities Reagan was essentially a figurehead with no real power.

Who's to say those surrounding Trump don't fear he is also suffering from senility/early stage Alzheimer's?

There is no evidence of "dwindling cognitive abilities".

originally posted by: DJW001

True Lies

Considering that he has been careful to record the audio of his on-record discussions with Trump administration officials, I doubt Bob Woodward is lying about anything. However, I'm not so confident the people he has interviewed have been entirely truthful.

President Trump's "shark tank" management style (as seen on The Apprentice), which deliberately pits employees against each other, isn't conducive to camaraderie, loyalty or integrity.

Indeed, it would be surprising if he wasn't surrounded by opportunistic backbiters.

Likewise, his own public behavior -- notably his adversarial relationship with the truth -- sets a low bar for those who report to him.

Thus the issue isn't so much Bob Woodward's credibility as the fact that his sources consist primarily of unreliable narrators.

In that sense, the challenge for the reader is, more often or not, determining which lies are closer to the truth than others.

Of course, that is a problem which is by no means limited to a single book, and such are the times in which we live.

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: DJW001

What makes you think that man in uniform was not following orders from the Commander in Chief?

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: DJW001

What makes you think that man in uniform was not following orders from the Commander in Chief?

He did follow orders. He gave an unnessecary cognitive test at the president’s request.

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: DJW001

A test by this guy? Author of the "glowing report on Trumps health"? The man who was picked to lead the VA shortly after giving that great report?

That guy? Who's currently under investigation?

I would like to see an assessment by a more impartial physician, who doesn't stand to gain any position or monetary benefits from the review.

This is the guy who says he's never heard Trump repeat himself personally. I don't think he's listened to Trump's speeches (or if he did, perhaps he fell asleep and didn't notice what was going on.)

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip
In Bob Woodward's new book, " Fear: Trump in the White House", he describes certain acts within the White House as "no less than an administrative coup d'etat". These acts include stealing documents from president's desk in order to keep him from signing them.

"Woodward describes several instances where Trump administration officials - chief economic advisor Gary Cohen and White House Staff Secretary Rob Porter, in particular - removed documents from the president's desk to keep Mr Trump from signing them."

www.bbc.com...

If true, this does not bode well for the democracy in general, the American republic in particular, and proves the unmitigated fear produced by the propaganda arm of the political class.

I think you may have a different view of democracy than many others do. Democracy does NOT mean "not criticizing the leaders" - in fact, it's the very nature of democracy that you can criticize. You don't have to support them.

Unconditional support is not democracy. However, we are not a democracy -- we are a constitutional republic. Under such an entity, protest is allowed within the constitutional framework.

We've never had a leader before who says things as policy and then changes his mind seven or eight times within the next month. We've never had a president who makes up facts continually.

I think that we may see a sea change in the next election -- and that's the nature of a republic or a democracy... your side doesn't ALWAYS win. It's not a case of "it's a republic when my side controls it but when the other guys get it, it's a dictatorship." My side, as it happens, lost the last election. This is part of the process, much as I loathe the results and hope for things to swing back to my side in the mid-terms.

But this is what happens when the people vote. It's the rule of the non-apathetic.

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: DJW001

What makes you think that man in uniform was not following orders from the Commander in Chief?

He did follow orders. He gave an unnessecary cognitive test at the president’s request.

You're right, no test was necessary... anyone can see he is clearly deranged.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: DJW001

What makes you think that man in uniform was not following orders from the Commander in Chief?

He did follow orders. He gave an unnessecary cognitive test at the president’s request.

You're right, no test was necessary... anyone can see he is clearly deranged.

It turns out he wasn’t despite your claims, most of which is swayed by the word of disgruntled employees and haters.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: DJW001

A test by this guy? Author of the "glowing report on Trumps health"? The man who was picked to lead the VA shortly after giving that great report?

That guy? Who's currently under investigation?

I would like to see an assessment by a more impartial physician, who doesn't stand to gain any position or monetary benefits from the review.

This is the guy who says he's never heard Trump repeat himself personally. I don't think he's listened to Trump's speeches (or if he did, perhaps he fell asleep and didn't notice what was going on.)

Yes, appointed by Obama. That guy.

a reply to: Byrd

No one said democracy is “not criticizing the leader”, so there is no need to put those words in quotes. Thwarting the president’s agenda and criticizing the president are not the same things.

I’m not sure you know what democracy is. A federal republic is a type of representative democracy.

originally posted by: knoxie

Again and again, Woodward recounts at length how Trump’s national security team was shaken by his lack of curiosity and knowledge about world affairs and his contempt for the mainstream perspectives of military and intelligence leaders.

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Again and again, Woodward recounts at length how Trump’s national security team was shaken by his lack of curiosity and knowledge about world affairs and his contempt for the mainstream perspectives of military and intelligence leaders.

Yes Those Intelligence and Military Leaders that have done so well Beating the Taliban, Predicting the chaos in Libya, Calling ISIS "JV" and letting Syria descend into Hell and predicting Russia's moves in Crimea in the recent past.

Oh yeah the IC did a bang up job with the Russian Interference in our Election too.

WHY DOESN'T HE TRUST THEM??????

a reply to: pavil

WHY DOESN'T HE TRUST THEM??????

Because they know he is a Russian asset.

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: DJW001

What makes you think that man in uniform was not following orders from the Commander in Chief?

He did follow orders. He gave an unnessecary cognitive test at the president’s request.

You're right, no test was necessary... anyone can see he is clearly deranged.

It turns out he wasn’t despite your claims, most of which is swayed by the word of disgruntled employees and haters.

This man has seconds to decide whether he believes his staff when they tell him ICBMs are incoming. He does not have the time to wonder why his pal Vladimir would attack him, or wonder why Kim lied to him.