80,000 paedophiles present online threat to UK children

a reply to: Freeborn
Punishment/retribution is fine by me as well but my main concern is the isolation of the threat to society first.
Now if that means prison and an option to die by drug overdose if preferred then I'd also be fine with that.
Once those urges have been acted upon then you lose the right to my society then.
I wouldn't join a lynch mob but I wouldn't grass one up either.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

I could relate first hand knowledge of several examples of how known nonces get treat here but they are pretty brutal and it might just offend a few people and even violate those dreaded T&C.

If the UK followed the USA practices there would be a bloodbath.

For me its a one strike crime - caught once you then forego your right to live in a free society, permanently.
Minimum size cell, bread and water and a bucket for bodily functions.
Chain gang and hard labour.

Or the voluntary suicide could be an option....or even the plane solution previously mentioned.

a reply to: Freeborn

You want to see the kind of things that happen to them whilst in the tinpale.

Razor blades under doors, food coved in jizz and excrement never mind a healthy dose of unending mental torture, threats and abuse, day in day out.

And that's just the turnkeys. LoL

Then they get out and left alone to there own nefarious device once again.

a reply to: Aazadan

But you're talking about beating, murdering, and jailing people just for admitting they're pedophiles,

If they've actually committed the crime then yes, see my post prior to this one.

If they admit they are paedophiles and haven't committed a crime then I think they should be isolated or segregated from society before they can harm someone.
If they've suppressed the urge then I wouldn't suggest they were treat anywhere near as harshly as those who have acted upon their desires.

... just because you believe they eventually will.

I recognise and acknowledge that its a very dangerous road to go down - the Thought Police and Minority Report spring to mind.
But the protection of the potential victims has to be the primary concern.

a reply to: Freeborn
One strike crime yes for sure. I know people who have done time for murder and manslaughter but they are trusted because they were extreme situations. They didn't have a lust to kill someone.
Paedos have a lust for their actions. They lose their right to society after acting on it.

...it would be a bloodbath wouldn't it if the UK released their names and addresses on a database. I've seen similar things to you I imagine. Opposite ends of England but same same it seems.

originally posted by: Freeborn
If they admit they are paedophiles and haven't committed a crime then I think they should be isolated or segregated from society before they can harm someone.
If they've suppressed the urge then I wouldn't suggest they were treat anywhere near as harshly as those who have acted upon their desires.

But you're still wanting to punish them, for coming clean, admitting what they are, and most importantly... doing what society expects them to do, and not harm children.

Where is the incentive to do that? If they're going to be treated poorly, why not actually commit the crime so that they're deserving of that treatment in the first place?

a reply to: Aazadan

If i kill someone and come clean, i still go to gaol though.

Reasonable members of society simply wish them not to exist.

Incentive not to touch children???

I simply cant get my head around such.

Education is generally the key Aazadan but in their case eradication seems to be the more prudent option.

It seems the British Police care about those people making hate speech online rather then arresting real criminals.A shame what Britain has become a real cuck of a country.

a reply to: ChefFox

The police only add to the problem really.

Then again just like the politicians and aristocracy, some of them are actively participating where pedophilia is concerned. Hence there ambivalence to do anything about it in any kind of meaningful manner.

And that's not hyperbole im afraid.

a reply to: Aazadan
I get your sentiments to an extent but as Freeborn said, the potential victims are the priority.
Thought crime yes, same as if someone told me they have fantasies of dragging a woman into some bushes and violently raping them. Something they'd love to do you know? I'd want them sectioned and locked up on a secure ward in a heartbeat for being a risk to women.
Same with paedos, unless you want to pay for some friendly commune centres around the country to offer a place of refuge for probably way more than 80,000 paedos?
That would be the only way they would come forward and it would cost a fortune. Why should my taxes fund a holiday camp for paedos to live safe and comfortable anyway?
They may be sick in the head but they can't be treated so in my book, cross the line and lose the right to being part of my society.

a reply to: andy06shake

You want to see the kind of things that happen to them whilst in the tinpale.

Oh, I know fine well what sort of things happen....and its no way near enough!

Then they get out and left alone to there own nefarious device once again.

And that is a massive problem.

I've seen people get a longer stretch for twocking and very minor public order offences than some paedophiles have got!

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Paedos have a lust for their actions.

It seems as if some people just can't seem to grasp this fact.

I've seen similar things to you I imagine.

Some of the most brutal and violent things I have ever experienced.
Retribution can be very swift and savage.

Opposite ends of England but same same it seems.

Most of the occupants of these islands share much in common.

a reply to: Freeborn

I got a 4 YEAR supervision order for doing what had to be done to one of those bastards.

Touch a wean you only get 2 or 3-year order, go figure that logic. LoL

Guess i must be considered more dangerous than a pedo???

The mind boggles really.

a reply to: Freeborn
Yes, which is probably why the UK does not release paedo information out like the US does.

On a side note, I can't say too much but a very close person in my life is a mental health nurse at a secure hospital for criminally insane people. They currently have a famous UK child rapist/killer in their care and none of the medical team think he should be there, he's just blagging the mental illness to stay out of prison.
The problem is he says all the right things so they can't prove it. They all hate having to deal with him, but he's under NHS care so they have to play the game.

originally posted by: andy06shake
If i kill someone and come clean, i still go to gaol though.

Reasonable members of society simply wish them not to exist.

If someone admits to wanting to kill someone (the feeling, not making threats), law enforcement generally watches the person, warns the potential victim, and tries various tactics like separating the potential criminal/victim, and opening the doors to therapy and anger management classes, alongside some inclusionary activities... all reasonable precautions. What we don't do is punish that person because of what they've admitted to. We only remove the person from society if they kill or attempt to kill someone.

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
They may be sick in the head but they can't be treated so in my book, cross the line and lose the right to being part of my society.

But you're not saying punish after crossing the line. You're saying to punish people before they've done anything wrong.

a reply to: Aazadan

Infants and toddlers and people think Pedo's just need a hug. Please say that over and over to yourself. Infants and toddlers are being sexually assaulted and the videos are being shared online.

www.newsweek.com...

a reply to: ChefFox

Please dont kid yourself that this is a British problem. It is happening in your very neighborhood. Guaranteed.

originally posted by: lakenheath24
a reply to: Aazadan

Infants and toddlers and people think Pedo's just need a hug. Please say that over and over to yourself. Infants and toddlers are being sexually assaulted and the videos are being shared online.

www.newsweek.com...

Ok, and what do you propose we do about the pedo's that haven't yet assaulted children? Do we keep to the status quo and maintain an environment that encourages them to eventually do so?

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
They may be sick in the head but they can't be treated so in my book, cross the line and lose the right to being part of my society.

But you're not saying punish after crossing the line. You're saying to punish people before they've done anything wrong.

Lock them up as dangerously mentally ill same as we do for people who have rape fantasies and admit it to doctors who deem them a risk to others.
What would you do? Create paedo resort centres so they are safe and willing to come forward because the environment is friendly?

a reply to: Aazadan

"We only remove the person from society if they kill or attempt to kill someone."

But where pedophiles are concerned that kind of amounts to letting them play with a can of petrol and a match, does it not?

Do you have children Aazadan?

Because when you care about someone more than you do yourself, the world becomes somewhat rather a more complex environment to navigate.

Any other malady that afflicts our respective societies other than pedophilia and i would probably tend to agree with you education and prevention is the key, but with beasts, you simply cannot teach pork im afraid.