Obama "You Didn't Build That". I think he was right.

a reply to: M5xaz

The Chinese wouldn't have to demand corporate secrets from companies looking to do business over there as part of the price of opening their markets.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: M5xaz

The Chinese wouldn't have to demand corporate secrets from companies looking to do business over there as part of the price of opening their markets.

Right!
Because if it was all controlled by Government, Hillary could just sell it to the Chinese by placing it all on her home unsecured server...

The only thing your building with this tax snip is the welfare state.

And the ALL that extra money ends up in the same bank accounts with one big difference.

GUARANTEED by the state.

originally posted by: stormcell
Warren Buffet wants the rich taxed so that those family businesses with inherited property worth millions have to sell up and put their property on the market, which he then buys up.

That's what we should be doing. There should be no such thing as inheritance in the United States. It should be taxed 100%. Each generation makes their own way, on their own merits.

I say that as someone who is in the position to get a substantial inheritance in the future. The exact amount changes from year to year, but as of this moment it's around 30 million.

It is not right, the law should not allow for that because I haven't actually done anything to warrant that sort of wealth other than be born to the right person.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Spend the money wisely that is already taken before demanding more.

We try. Then sane health care programs, social safety nets, education, and so on get shot down, and all that money is instead given to the military.

originally posted by: M5xaz
Fact is, if greater government involvement produced anything, the Soviet Union would have produced microchips, the Internet, biotech, etc. The Soviets did not, clearly.

All of those things were invented through government spending.

Here's one for you, capitalism pushed medicines that treat rather than cure disease. The Soviets refined bacteriophages, and had the USSR not collapsed, we would have those rather than antibiotics right now. There would be significantly less disease in the world as a result.

a reply to: Aallanon

This, so this.

When Obama said all that malarkey, he didn't mention that he and his policies were going to insure that no one could succeed because of his massive increases in business regulations and red tape. Except his friends who donated to his campaign of course, like when he wrote multi-billion dollar checks to a few people who cashed the checks and declared bankruptcy a few days later.

Obama often claimed one thing but would do the opposite and contradict his own preaching.

Obama never said anything that was fully the truth, and often he spoke with a forked tongue. His programmed and mindless followers would applaud anything he said or did without having any actual clue about whether it was true or not, or even applied to anyone real or imagined.

It helps if you read the links instead of just being pig headed. This is about corporate tax and payroll taxes on millionaires.
a reply to: DBCowboy

We are talking technology. Education is another thread a reply to: ketsuko

The post is about government investing in technology. Not social programs. Its hard to explain when people dont read the links.
Smh

a reply to: DBCowboy

The US government spends 61% o GDP. More than France. We ARE socialist. The articles are about a better way to spend so that R and D is still footed by the taxpayer but the taxpayer gets a better ROI.
Its not about raising individual taxes. Her ideas bring back wealth to the middle classes.
a reply to: neo96

Wow...you didnt read the article did you...because that is EXACTLY what she was ssying.


a reply to: M5xaz

originally posted by: lakenheath24
We are talking technology. Education is another thread a reply to: ketsuko

I thought we were talking public/private partnerships where the government is the controlling interest.

If that's the case, then we can learn a lot about how other such examples in our system go and have gone, education included.

But I suppose we could look at all the wonderful gains we made in green energy like Solyndra from Obama's public/private partnerships there!

Oh ...

Nope.

originally posted by: lakenheath24
The US government spends 61% o GDP. More than France. We ARE socialist. The articles are about a better way to spend so that R and D is still footed by the taxpayer but the taxpayer gets a better ROI.
Its not about raising individual taxes. Her ideas bring back wealth to the middle classes.
a reply to: neo96

And the US government is also multiple trillions in debt.

There seems to be this saying about running out of other people's money ...

a reply to: lakenheath24

Tesla is on the verge of going bankrupt. Musk is relying on his fan base with his scheme of going from public to private.

Private enterprise is what develops and markets innovation so it can benefit everyone

Even today business is getting rich off the government. For example, the National Institute of Health invents drugs and then they have to give them to the evil Pharmaceutical companies for some reason, not to mention the entire military/intelligence industrial complex.

originally posted by: CB328

Private enterprise is what develops and markets innovation so it can benefit everyone

Even today business is getting rich off the government. For example, the National Institute of Health invents drugs and then they have to give them to the evil Pharmaceutical companies for some reason, not to mention the entire military/intelligence industrial complex.

But if private business is taking government funds to produce, wouldn't that just underscore that the OP is wrong? If the government is picking certain private companies that giving them money, then that would, ergo, be a public/private partnership. Would it not?

I never expected you of all people to agree that government funding of private business is a bad idea.

a reply to: CB328

It works the other way too. The Epipen is made from the technology developed by the Government for the PAM style anti - nerve agent injectors.

a reply to: ketsuko

That specific company was addressed in the links. The failure there was when the government took the control too far. Even though Solyndra failed, renewable energy has surged to 18% of output.
fortune.com...

So it is fair to cite that example and others, the truth is that a high percentage of government projects work.

That does pain me to say that BTW...it's just after reading all this stuff, I can see the other side as well.