TH3WH17ERABB17 -Q- Questions. White House Insider's postings -PART- -e11even-

originally posted by: Enderdog

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: thegeneraldisarray
Just wondering when that will happen here. It's against the rules to utter the phrase WWG1WGA here already. Please Mods don't remove as this is for educational purposes.

"WWG1WGA" is against ATS rules now?

I think so. Not too long ago I got the message and my post was removed. It said something about forming groups among ourselves...something to that affect.

OK...to me that is simply and ironically hillarious! The definition of "all" being just about as inclusive a word as one might use...

It's against T&C's and the general mentality of the "where goes 1" crowd, and this thread, is not very inclusive whatsoever. The "Q" folks are/were creating their own forum gang and you can only be part of that elitist, stuck-up group if you are/were a true believer.

I'm really starting to understand how it feels to be part of a persecuted group of people, who have done absolutely nothing wrong, yet are still hated...

a reply to: PokeyJoe

People hate when they see someone having fun but can't join the party.

originally posted by: PokeyJoe
I'm really starting to understand how it feels to be part of a persecuted group of people, who have done absolutely nothing wrong, yet are still hated...

How have you been persecuted?

a reply to: introvert

Everywhere you go on the internet, most people will talk # about you if they know you follow Q, our entire eco-system on Reddit was deleted for no reason. We're called crazy, called a cult, called rednecks....every MSM outlet trips over themselves getting out their anti-Q propaganda. Shall I continue?

originally posted by: PokeyJoe
I'm really starting to understand how it feels to be part of a persecuted group of people, who have done absolutely nothing wrong, yet are still hated...

It's no different from any group representing an extreme ideology having their share of vocal opponents/haters.

I'm in no way a hater, but I certainly see the danger of an un-vetted and unnamed person from the 4chan boards convincing large sects of the country into many times baseless claims.

It's all fun and games until someone takes it too seriously, which they will. Something in the political climate is going to happen that a Q follower won't be able to let go of, and something crazy will happen, it's just a matter of time.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Enderdog

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: thegeneraldisarray
Just wondering when that will happen here. It's against the rules to utter the phrase WWG1WGA here already. Please Mods don't remove as this is for educational purposes.

"WWG1WGA" is against ATS rules now?

I think so. Not too long ago I got the message and my post was removed. It said something about forming groups among ourselves...something to that affect.

OK...to me that is simply and ironically hillarious! The definition of "all" being just about as inclusive a word as one might use...

It's against T&C's and the general mentality of the "where goes 1" crowd, and this thread, is not very inclusive whatsoever. The "Q" folks are/were creating their own forum gang and you can only be part of that elitist, stuck-up group if you are/were a true believer.

Hmmm...so, you are arguing for the "is" definition of "all" then? While I agree that there is a necessary degree of polarity on these Q threads..or maybe predictable is a better word...I have seen very much good for thinking about other potential interpretations type of discussion. And I think the mods are doing a pretty bang-up job of keeping us tracking along pretty well.

But, that's just me. Everyone else might be different.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

So if one crazy Q follower does something stupid, that denounces the whole movement? There are crazy people who do crazy things in every group of people on earth. Im fully aware though that as soon as one crazy Q person does something we will all be put on some terrorist watch list somewhere. Thats just how the world works these days.

originally posted by: PokeyJoe
a reply to: introvert

Everywhere you go on the internet, most people will talk # about you if they know you follow Q, our entire eco-system on Reddit was deleted for no reason. We're called crazy, called a cult, called rednecks....every MSM outlet trips over themselves getting out their anti-Q propaganda. Shall I continue?

We have no evidence of who Q is, and what their agenda is.

They have a large following who despite not knowing who he/she/they are, repeats everything stated by nameless/faceless entity as fact.

Some of the claims made are baseless and accuse individuals of heinous crimes. Of course you're going to have people critical of that.

If there was an inverse group, they would receive just as much criticism.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: whereismyusername

The $h1lls had their own terms, including corruption of Q phrases which lil XAn has recently pushed hard.

See. You prove my point. It's not really about us "all", right?

It's about the "Q" believers separating themselves from the rest in to their own forum gang and considering the rest to be outsiders....or shills.

They're just cracking down on the forming of groups. No need to draw a line in the sand and pick a side. Though both seem to be equally critical of the other here.

Too late. That line was drawn some time ago.

At the end of the day the merit lies in what we find and discuss here. And that's why we have ten threads. that and the pages of arguing when things are slow.

Sure, but that does not address the specific topic I mentioned. The "where goes one" crowd are not interested in being inclusive. It's an elitist group that looks down on those that do not fall for the cult-like, religious-like dogma.

How can you want to be part of the all and yet vehemently fight it?

There's a difference between honest questioning,as so many do here, and blatant attempts to besmirch or mock.

Yes a possible movement like this needs to be questioned. Yes it should be regarded with suspicion.
But that suspicion should be stated and tangible points and concepts should be brought up for analysis.

What we've seen here are nothing of that sort. Ad homs. Strawmen.

The lines may have been drawn but it's everyone's choice as to whether they stand upon it or to a side.

And again if we have our phrase and someone makes a corruption of it, why say one is worse than the other?

I think we all realize where each other falls in terms of belief or lack thereof.

If you don't feel included perhaps it is because you don't see yourself as a baker or a part of the discussion because you aren't engaging in it in the same fashion?

Please present counter proofs. If they are found flawed, present more. If they arent, you will sway opinion. Everyone has their part in this.

That's your choice to do or not do, but you can't blame others for their opinions that result.

originally posted by: RelSciHistItSufi
a reply to: Sabrechucker

"QWiki - The resurrection"?

Now that would be Awesome

Still hoping

a reply to: PokeyJoe

Everywhere you go on the internet, most people will talk # about you if they know you follow Q, our entire eco-system on Reddit was deleted for no reason.

I believe it was deleted because you guys like to talk about inappropriate things involving children.

Just like Pgate, many site owners do not want their services to be associated with the dark side of the "Q" community.

We're called crazy, called a cult, called rednecks....every MSM outlet trips over themselves getting out their anti-Q propaganda. Shall I continue?

Yes, please do. You are proving my point.

But I wonder, have you ever asked yourself if any of it is true? Are some of you crazy? Are many of you exhibiting behavior indicative of a cultist mentality?

I'd say yes. Absolutely.

a reply to: Enderdog

Hmmm...so, you are arguing for the "is" definition of "all" then?

What?

While I agree that there is a necessary degree of polarity on these Q threads..or maybe predictable is a better word...I have seen very much good for thinking about other potential interpretations type of discussion.

Is that what is going on in this thread?

And I think the mods are doing a pretty bang-up job of keeping us tracking along pretty well. But, that's just me. Everyone else might be different.

Yes, they've done a good job of keeping this limited to one thread, which is highly-monitored due to the content that can be brought up on this topic, and those that come in to the thread, that may not be part of the "where goes 1" crowd, have to be very careful about what they say.

The "Q" threads are protected by the mods.

Yes I have asked myself if its true, and the answer is no. We are not a goddamn cult. I am not in a cult. No one else is in a cult. Are there dumb asses that follow Q too? Absolutely. No dumber than anyone who is a member of any other "group." Its just interesting to me how we are labeled a cult. We all know the immediate connotation that the word cult has. It is a blatant attempt to label all of us crazy, and tells everyone to immediately discount anything that we say.

David Koresh's people - thats a cult
The Rajneesh movement - thats a cult
Jonestown - cult
Heavens Gate - cult

QAnon - not a cult. Does not meet any of the criteria for a cult. Just because you badly want it to be one, does not make it so.

a reply to: PokeyJoe

Yes I have asked myself if its true, and the answer is no. We are not a goddamn cult. I am not in a cult. No one else is in a cult. Are there dumb asses that follow Q too? Absolutely. No dumber than anyone who is a member of any other "group." Its just interesting to me how we are labeled a cult. We all know the immediate connotation that the word cult has. It is a blatant attempt to label all of us crazy, and tells everyone to immediately discount anything that we say.

I think the point you are missing is that people discount the issue because there is no proof of any of it, yet you have many true believers in the dogma of Q. You even have "Q" followers that are so convinced that it is now become part of the US political scene. It's not an issue of Right Wing politics.

Yet not one shred of evidence any of it is true.

David Koresh's people - thats a cult The Rajneesh movement - thats a cult Jonestown - cult Heavens Gate - cult

Sure, but I will disagree with about the Branch Davidians. That is a real example of people being labeled a cult by the media for no reason whatsoever.

They were peaceful, decent people that were persecuted and killed because of the unproven accusations leveled at them.

QAnon - not a cult. Does not meet any of the criteria for a cult. Just because you badly want it to be one, does not make it so.

I do not believe I said it was a cult. I said the people exhibit cultist characteristics and mindsets.

a reply to: fiverx313

You're unbelievably gullible. Truly you are.

Back in our Country's beginnings, there were Patriots and Loyalists

I'm sure they both called each other names out of fear of the unknown

The difference between them, simply speaking, was Patriots wanted Freedom and self governance and the Loyalists wanted the status quo which was control and comfort

Times change people don't (well not entirely true - it is true enough)

We are at a time in history where technology has turned on us, at the same time offering great benefits.
But the benefits do not outweigh the danger of a few controlling the masses with technology that has been withheld from our sight.

This "Q" phenomenon, is forcing us to not accept what is and ask ourselves what can be. We the People, not "Q" has made this process viable By pulling back the curtain, through provocative thought and research and collective participation Yes the Crumbs point us in a direction but which way "you" take it is on the individual.
IMO