High school proposes ticketing students for using cell phones

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Schools need to accept the fact that cell phones are here to stay and try to embrace them.
There is a wealth of information available online that our ancestors would consider nothing short of magic.

The problem is managing this information. In my opinion the absolute worst way would be to outright ban its usage.
Teachers that embrace cell phones and use it to aid in their lessons are on the right path. Obviously, some of these Wisconsin schools are still in the stone age. If you go to any private school, one of the things that you will quickly see is that they embrace technology.

There was a time when books were banned too. Books were not appropriate for girls and women, then it was certain books, then it was not appropriate for kids. etc etc. Seems like we are going through the same thing with cell phones. Yes I get it, some teens want to snapchat all day and not pay attention. Those are the same kids that used to pass notes in my school days.

Ban them. Period. All they do is suck up the kids attention. I see it every day. Faces glued to their screens. They are supposed to be learning. And not about Frank screwing around with Donna.

originally posted by: intrepid
Ban them. Period. All they do is suck up the kids attention. I see it every day. Faces glued to their screens. They are supposed to be learning. And not about Frank screwing around with Donna.

Exactly. They have no place in the classroom. They should be kept in their lockers and if the student brings it out, it should be confiscated. If the parents or students don't like it, they can take their kid elsewhere to a school that allows cell phones.

We didn't have cell phones in school and did just fine. Heck, we didn't even have internet.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: intrepid
Ban them. Period. All they do is suck up the kids attention. I see it every day. Faces glued to their screens. They are supposed to be learning. And not about Frank screwing around with Donna.

Exactly. They have no place in the classroom. They should be kept in their lockers and if the student brings it out, it should be confiscated. If the parents or students don't like it, they can take their kid elsewhere to a school that allows cell phones.

We didn't have cell phones in school and did just fine. Heck, we didn't even have internet.

Or calculators. Maybe I'm dating myself here though.

a reply to: JAGStorm

That's dumb.

Just make it a school policy. When you're in class. It goes on the teachers desk or on a shelf at the front of the class.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: intrepid
Ban them. Period. All they do is suck up the kids attention. I see it every day. Faces glued to their screens. They are supposed to be learning. And not about Frank screwing around with Donna.

Exactly. They have no place in the classroom. They should be kept in their lockers and if the student brings it out, it should be confiscated. If the parents or students don't like it, they can take their kid elsewhere to a school that allows cell phones.

We didn't have cell phones in school and did just fine. Heck, we didn't even have internet.

Or calculators. Maybe I'm dating myself here though.

Yeah, I don't think we started using calculators till 11th grade in the higher level math classes.

My dad had this thing called a slide rule... lol

My kid can carry her phone to class.

But she can't carry a purse.

a reply to: Edumakated

So you are basically saying regular pubic school kids should not have access to technology but rich/private school students should?

Here are some of the top reasons cell phones should be in the classroom:
www.teachthought.com...

I've highlighted my favorites:
38. Digital literacy is as important as non-digital literacy
Self-directed learning will be a core tenet of future learning. This means technology, and the most mobile, affordable, and accessible kind of technology is a used smartphone
35. Smartphones can function as a productivity hub for challenge-based learning–reminders, to-do lists, calendar updates, social messaging, emails, etc
46. Kindle, iBooks, and other reading apps
47. Access to virtual libraries, museums, networks

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: Edumakated

So you are basically saying regular pubic school kids should not have access to technology but rich/private school students should?

Here are some of the top reasons cell phones should be in the classroom:
www.teachthought.com...

I've highlighted my favorites:
38. Digital literacy is as important as non-digital literacy
Self-directed learning will be a core tenet of future learning. This means technology, and the most mobile, affordable, and accessible kind of technology is a used smartphone
35. Smartphones can function as a productivity hub for challenge-based learning–reminders, to-do lists, calendar updates, social messaging, emails, etc
46. Kindle, iBooks, and other reading apps
47. Access to virtual libraries, museums, networks

You mean like how the parents in Palo Alto, the capital of technolgy, don't want tech in their highly rated public schools?

Silicon Valley Parents Raising Their Kids Tech Free

It has nothing to do with tech per se, but that it is a distraction from the core learning. Once kids have mastered learning and the basics of reading, writing, and math then we can talk about putting supplemental tech in the classrooms imho.

There is ZERO reason to have a phone at school in the classroom. You are there to learn, not send DMs on instragram and facebook.

I attended one of the best graduate schools in the world. A few of my professors didn't allow laptops in class because they are a distraction. People cannot help but surf websites, play games, etc.

Kids shouldn't even be allowed to have cell phones, let alone have them in class.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
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Schools need to accept the fact that cell phones are here to stay and try to embrace them.
There is a wealth of information available online that our ancestors would consider nothing short of magic.

The problem is managing this information. In my opinion the absolute worst way would be to outright ban its usage.
Teachers that embrace cell phones and use it to aid in their lessons are on the right path. Obviously, some of these Wisconsin schools are still in the stone age. If you go to any private school, one of the things that you will quickly see is that they embrace technology.

There was a time when books were banned too. Books were not appropriate for girls and women, then it was certain books, then it was not appropriate for kids. etc etc. Seems like we are going through the same thing with cell phones. Yes I get it, some teens want to snapchat all day and not pay attention. Those are the same kids that used to pass notes in my school days.

My kids go to a private school that embraces tech and I have no issue with it. They are issued a laptop that they do most of their work on.

They also have consequences for cell phone use during school hours. Personally I dont think cell phones have any business being used during school....too many possible distractions from whatever notifications and apps the kids have.

I'd be fine with teachers taking them away at the beginning of school and giving back at the end.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: intrepid
Ban them. Period. All they do is suck up the kids attention. I see it every day. Faces glued to their screens. They are supposed to be learning. And not about Frank screwing around with Donna.

Exactly. They have no place in the classroom. They should be kept in their lockers and if the student brings it out, it should be confiscated. If the parents or students don't like it, they can take their kid elsewhere to a school that allows cell phones.

We didn't have cell phones in school and did just fine. Heck, we didn't even have internet.

Or calculators. Maybe I'm dating myself here though.

Ha....I had to learn to use an abacus too...LoL!

School is for learning.
Breaks in school are not only for just having a break, it´s also social contact.

I´m not giving pupils the benefit of the doubt that they won´t use it during lessons to play games or surf sites.

In fact it has gone so bad that our local school banned mobile phones all together during lessons and breaks.
They use it not only for gaming, messaging and sending their private parts around, they also use it for mobbing of all kinds, including filming someone get beaten up. Or extortion.

I could go on a lenghty rant how even appointments are not worth a dime anymore.

In my days you arranged a meeting point and you either showed up in time or not. If someone always had something better to do although he "reserved" the option to do something with the group, you guess what happens, it´s respectless. Do that 2-3 times in a row and nobody will wait a second for you.

Today, with whatsapp, you would think setting up a meeting would be easier. Well, it´s also easier to skip a meeting without any personal effort. It´s like a disease, we´re (d)evolving backwards.

It´s rude and unpersonal.

Someone brought up the idea to mark the floor on the sidewalks and in front of traffic lights like it´s done in airplanes. To avoid accidents.

If not for the poor soul that mowes down one of those idiots (see pocketmon) and has to live with it, I´d say let them die!

a reply to: verschickter

Today, with whatsapp, you would think setting up a meeting would be easier. Well, it´s also easier to skip a meeting without any personal effort. It´s like a disease, we´re (d)evolving backwards.

I've noticed this about millenials in particular. I work in sales and I've noticed a lot of millennials tend to "Ghost" people. They don't just say, "Thanks for your time, etc...". They just stop responding to emails or phone calls. It is the height of rudeness because often times, significant time has been invested on their behalf usually at their behest.

Someone calls me for advice and counsel and I spend a few hours analyzing their situation and it typically results in a sale. However, there are times it doesn't which is fine. Nevertheless, most people will at least say "Thanks" or whatever and it is just business. However, millennials just ghost and stop responding.

I think it is cultural because they aren't used to having to actually talk to someone live or developing relationships.

a reply to: Edumakated

I'm not disagreeing with anything being said regarding the negatives here. Distraction, rudeness, etc.
What I am saying, is it is here, it is not going anywhere. They can ban them today, but it won't last. Isn't it better to embrace them and use them for good. Maybe it is so much cell phone that is the issue but our inability to manage kids and distraction? Poor teaching?

I'll use drinking as an example. American kids just can't handle an alcoholic drink. It is the forbidden fruit. When they get it they go crazy.
In Europe, kids have a beer with their teacher at lunch. It is not taboo, it is served at Mcdonalds, it is at meals with your parents. It is accepted and there is no need to binge.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: Edumakated

I'm not disagreeing with anything being said regarding the negatives here. Distraction, rudeness, etc.
What I am saying, is it is here, it is not going anywhere. They can ban them today, but it won't last. Isn't it better to embrace them and use them for good. Maybe it is so much cell phone that is the issue but our inability to manage kids and distraction? Poor teaching?

I'll use drinking as an example. American kids just can't handle an alcoholic drink. It is the forbidden fruit. When they get it they go crazy.
In Europe, kids have a beer with their teacher at lunch. It is not taboo, it is served at Mcdonalds, it is at meals with your parents. It is accepted and there is no need to binge.

Tech is fine, but I think it is over used. A laptop isn't going to make you take better notes. Having the internet at your finger tips doesn't help you write a better research paper.

I just believe we need to focus on the basics firsts, then worry about all the bells and whistles.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: Edumakated
They can ban them today, but it won't last.

Why? Can you explain why it won´t last? If schools decide to ban mobile phones and they see it works, it will stay that way.

You must have some kind of scenario that made you arrive at that conclusion. Please share.

High school proposes ticketing students for using cell phones

No.

Students/Parents are already getting ripped off enough.

You would have to ask, before cell phones, did students take telephones to class? Imagine some student with a land line telephone, sitting in class and and talking on it, or pressing buttons to check his bank account, buy concert tickets, etc. You've all seen where some student in class is talking, doodling or sleeping, and the instructor suddenly asks them to comment on the lecture material, or answer the question, to teach students to pay attention.

So, the precedent for all history has been students are to pay attention in class. Therefore, one must conclude that, in 2018, this normal way of doing things must be abolished, that cell phones should be allowed in class, ringtones on full blast, as surely as two homosexual men should be allowed to adopt little boys and Arkansans worship Baphomet. We need to move the cell phones into classes, then move on to much larger issues, like how it should be hate speech to refer to people in pronouns that reflect their birth gender.

a reply to: Scrutinizing

You can't compare an old landline phone to smartphone. Two totally different things.


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