is there an electrician, master mechanic, engineer or awesome human that can help me wire this?

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Got it.
What color to what color?

Thanks

Here's the problem, I think you may have been sold the turbo fan motor, which has the additional wiring and is speed controlled by the on board PCM. The fan you're removing is an internal dual speed controlled by a pair of separate relays. You may not have a compatible part.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Personal note: I don't own a PT and have limited experience with them. My parents have owned Chryslers, however, and they are a company which has stubbornly failed to learn from their own mistakes over the years.

There's really no way to tell by pics exactly what wire does what. On a dc fan however, reversing polarity simply makes it run the wrong direction. So play with hooking wires up till you fine the right connections.
Black is likely ground on both, so go with black to black and switch the other 2 till you get it right.

As far as connections, wire nuts, or scotch locks, wing nuts, whatever people wish to call them have no place in an automotive application. To much vibration, hot to cold extremes, and corrosion.

Use a crimp type butt connector with preferably a heat shrink tube over it to seal out moisture.

The best is to solder the connections again with heat shrink tube overlaid.

a reply to: manuelram16

Yea the low speed kicks on when the a/c kicks on and the hig speed kicks on from coolant temp is what the link said.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

My pt is a turbo.
Again I don't care if it is correct. I just need at least 1 speed to work

originally posted by: TheLead
a reply to: TinySickTears

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Black should be ground and the other 2 are high and low speed. I don't know which is which, because the diagram shows them being yellow and dark green, not blue and red. Does the new fan have any diagram or makings?

Probably because the link you provided is for the coolant fan motor.

Look, I'm not going to be listened to here but when I worked at a Dodge dealership the control modules on the older cruisers went out more than the blower motors did.

So if it was me I would probably check with a test light if you have a good power and ground to the motor first.

But whatever... you've a 50% chance.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: TinySickTears
i just need to know what wire to what wire. i can solder everything together.

thanks

Sweet Christ no! You solder wires to circuit boards, not to plugs and not to each other. Cut the wores close to the connector, buy a pack of plastic, color coded wire wingnuts, place the ends of the wires you want to connect together, put on the wingnut, and screw it down. Then use electrical tape to cover any still exposed wiring, making sure no bare wires touch anything.

Negative. I would soldier any stranded wire smaller than 10ga in my car and use shrink tubes (or at least electrical tape) unless I was willing to risk a short and or resistance.

Do soldier the wires once you confirm the pinout is correct.

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: ZIPMATT
If its got the wrong plug then you have the wrong part for your car : dont cut anything off or change the hardware at all but get the correct fan

not saying youre wrong but when i called autozone about the cheap one they said my plugs might not fit and i might have to wire some # up.

even if they are wrong and you are right. i do not have the time or money to buy another fan/more expensive fan.

not saying this will be proper factory # but people put hemi engines in golf carts. there has to be a way to wire this up

thanks though

Yep. I'm not saying it's the right or wrong part. This is the difference between a "direct fit" replacement and generic part.

a reply to: Lumenari

im not talking about a blower motor. i am talking about a radiator/cooling fan and they are a huge problem on pt cruisers

originally posted by: drewlander

Pretty safe bet. Power and ground are red and black, respectively of course. The third wire is presumably to control fan speed. On computers they call it a revolution wire and can work like a rheostat to offer variable speed for maximum efficiency. In cars it is my understanding they both have the same voltage and the fan circuit relay opens one or both for Lo/Hi, depending on engine temp. Basically you will not screw this up unless you dont connect black to black.

i like this

so let me verify

i go black to black for sure
then i go red to blue
blue to blue as it really does not matter? if i hook it up this way my fan will work on at least 1 speed?
will it only work when it usually kicks on or wired up this way will it stay on all the time?

^^^that does not matter to me just curious.

i just need to know if i wire it up like that i will get at least 1 speed of a fan

Lol, you won't help an old lady but have the nerve to ask others for help.

a reply to: drewlander

Then do what the toolman18 said , join the 3 wires together in the same colour order , swap the blues if you have to and make sure when you cut the wires of each to leave enough length to work with .

a reply to: TinySickTears

Yes. And use butt connectors. I am a mechanic and autobody tech.

a reply to: TinySickTears

It will matter due to their function. One kicks on as soon as you turn on the a/c the other turns on when the temp senor tells it, they both shut off over 30 mph from my understanding.

One way you can test is out a black to your black and the run a direct hot to one and then the other to determine the high and low, then if you have a tester you can turn your a/c on and test the car side between the black and either color, when you turn your a/c on you should get voltage on one side. Match your high and low colors from that determination.

originally posted by: Muninn
Lol, you won't help an old lady but have the nerve to ask others for help.

yup.
and correction. i would not help that old lady

a reply to: TinySickTears

Sounds like a temp sensor issue, not the fan

Don't change the fan, clean the scale build up off the temp sensor first and see what happens with that

a reply to: TinySickTears

Fan speed is controlled by relays in the fuse panel. The new fan should just be fan, motor, and fan shroud.

a reply to: Toolman18

So the fan motor doesnt have two speeds it just controls it through voltage? If that's the case it won't matter as long as he keeps his ground consistent

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TinySickTears

Sounds like a temp sensor issue, not the fan

Don't change the fan, clean the scale build up off the temp sensor first and see what happens with that

i already replaced the temp sensor. did it last week.
thermostat too.

everything i read about this issue on the PT points to the fan motor most of the time. i was just hoping it would be the other # cause the parts are cheaper and easier to change. i have no garage. no lift. im basically working on it in a parking lot

originally posted by: Toolman18
a reply to: TinySickTears

Fan speed is controlled by relays in the fuse panel. The new fan should just be fan, motor, and fan shroud.

to be clear
it should be fine if i go black to black. red to blue. blue to blue?