GOP leader accuses Twitter of censoring conservatives, doesn't go as planned

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

None of us has access to whatever algorithm Twitter is using to mask sensitive content. We can speculate as to the reasons for the masking, but it's Twitter's algorithm being used and they aren't being very forth coming on how tweets are sought out and masked. It is pretty much agreed upon by fellow Twitter users that the tweets that end up masked don't make a lot of sense and there are plenty of examples of some tweets being masked while others of similar content aren't. HOWEVER there is no existence of hard evidence or trends that this algorithm targets conservatives more than other groups of people. If you are going to make that claim, you will need more than a handful of conservative anecdotes and actually produce some sort of trend graph analysis instead.

We aren't being fallacious for doubting you though. The burden of proof was never met to establish that Twitter censors conservatives more than any other group.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the melodramatics, and I did not speak out-
Because I liked drinking their salty tears.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me so I just Tweeted something banal to my followers.

-Martin Niemöller

I updated that for the modern age.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: damonster

Like I said, I absolutely agree they can do it. Just don't say it's not happening.

I agree they are doing it but not on the level some people think they are. There is only a few and it is usually because they fell they are spreading fake news, racism and outright lies.

The republicans were happy when the sites first spoke about cracking down on fake news but they did not consider it would be their own people.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
What’s your point?

He's likely wrong and over reacting since Youtube isn't taking him down at all, let alone next.

First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

-Martin Niemöller

Godwin's Law

Godwin's law (or Godwin's rule of Hitler analogies)[1][2] is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Hitler approaches 1";[2][3] that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Adolf Hitler or his deeds. Promulgated by the American attorney and author Mike Godwin in 1990,[2] Godwin's law originally referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions.[4] It is now applied to any threaded online discussion, such as Internet forums, chat rooms, and comment threads, as well as to speeches, articles, and other rhetoric[5][6] where reductio ad Hitlerum occurs.

originally posted by: roadgravel

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: roadgravel
People don't like twitter, leave it. No one is stopping people from creating their own twitterish site and tweeting whatever and banning whoever they want.

a case of "Your place but run it as I say"

And do you suppose AT&T, Sprint and Verizon should be able to start turning off the phones of people that they dont like what they are saying?

Not the same thing but with the lost of net neutrality, it might be coming.

Twitter didn't remove the post, Cockpit Error just could not configure his account to meet his expectations.

That’s true but Twitter made the algorithm that is targeting conservative free speech. Also remember their shadow banning Republicans and even representatives?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I didn’t say anything about Hitler.

And my comment don’t intend to compare anything that Hitler did nor Hitler himself.

It’s about putting our small differences aside and fighting together for the Ultimate good which is free speech for all not just for the people I agree with. What do you have to say about that?

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
And my comment don’t intend to compare anything that Hitler did nor Hitler himself.

Martin Niemöller's statement is a direct commentary on Hitler and the Nazi Party's actions.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I didn’t say anything about Hitler.

Yes you did. You quoted a poem that is literally about Nazis and Hitler hauling people off to camps.

It’s about putting our small differences aside and fighting together for the Ultimate good which is free speech for all not just for the people I agree with. What do you have to say about that?

I'd say you don't understand the point of that poem. Furthermore, no one is being censored by Twitter, and even if they were I wouldn't care. I don't use Twitter and Twitter has every right to censor anything on their privately owned website.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
And my comment don’t intend to compare anything that Hitler did nor Hitler himself.

Martin Niemöller's statement is a direct commentary on Hitler and the Nazi Party's actions.

I am aware of that. However being a poem it can be used in different situations and interpreted into different aspects of our Society. Context is your friend.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

Yes you did. You quoted a poem that is literally about Nazis and Hitler hauling people off to camps.

But it doesn't have Hitler's name in it therefore it's not really about Hitler. I mean if this character was a real poet and wanted to write a decent poem about Hitler wouldn't he be talented enough to include the guy's name?

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
Context is your friend.

And the context, always in regards that poem, is Hitler or someone like him using their power to haul off the undesirables for an all inclusive vacation in the east.

Now, being that context is my friend I can see how Adolph Twitter is doing something similar with his platform and making sure Congressman Stupid Ass doesn't know how to use the platform. Not because he's a frickin dinosaur and social media is beyond his birdbrain to understand, but because they hate him and his conservative values.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
And my comment don’t intend to compare anything that Hitler did nor Hitler himself.

Martin Niemöller's statement is a direct commentary on Hitler and the Nazi Party's actions.

I am aware of that. However being a poem it can be used in different situations and interpreted into different aspects of our Society. Context is your friend.

The context of using such a poem to express your dissatisfaction is basically comparing whatever issue you are speaking about to the actions of Hitler. THAT is the correct context. Hence the Godwin's Law accusation.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I didn’t say anything about Hitler.

Yes you did. You quoted a poem that is literally about Nazis and Hitler hauling people off to camps.

It’s about putting our small differences aside and fighting together for the Ultimate good which is free speech for all not just for the people I agree with. What do you have to say about that?

I'd say you don't understand the point of that poem.

Being a published poet I’m pretty sure I understand the point of the poem quite well thank you.

This poem is literally used all over the world for different reasons including other than when talking about Hitler or his actions. Context is your friend.

Furthermore, no one is being censored by Twitter, and even if they were I wouldn't care. I don't use Twitter and Twitter has every right to censor anything on their privately owned website.

You don’t care but yet you are spending so much of your time arguing about it. Yes it is their right to censor Republicans if they want to. And they are certainly exercising that right on a large scale.

You know what is hilarious, that the right is crying about censorship at the same time they want left media to be shut down, fined or charged.

I mean, there have been threads on this very issue.

Dismantle Mass Media News

43% of Republicans say Trump should be allowed to shut down media

There maybe more not sure though.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
Being a published poet I’m pretty sure I understand the point of the poem quite well thank you.

Doesn't sound like it from your posts here. Actions are greater than words and your actions demonstrate that you don't understand the proper context of the poem. Furthermore, being a published poet doesn't automatically mean you understand the context and point of every poem ever.

This poem is literally used all over the world for different reasons including other than when talking about Hitler or his actions. Context is your friend.

You are making me doubt that you understand the definition of the word "context" now too. Just because a poem is used for a discussion doesn't mean it is used properly. AGAIN, the proper context of the poem is about Hitler and the Nazis sending all sorts of different people off to camps to slaughter them. Any other narrative is improper context.

You don’t care but yet you are spending so much of your time arguing about it. Yes it is their right to censor Republicans if they want to. And they are certainly exercising that right on a large scale.

I wrote a thread to laugh at a politician misusing Twitter. It's posters like you who are pretending like they are under persecution and keep talking about this angle. Not me.

a reply to: damonster

You know what is hilarious, that the right is crying about censorship at the same time they want left media to be shut down, fined or charged.

The worst part is that they can't see it.

originally posted by: damonster
You know what is hilarious, that the right is crying about censorship at the same time they want left media to be shut down, fined or charged.

I mean, there have been threads on this very issue.

Dismantle Mass Media News

43% of Republicans say Trump should be allowed to shut down media

There maybe more not sure though.

Heh. This thread was written today:
Why the MSM is a threat to society

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Did you notice in my original unedited post where I posted that poem that what I posted was just a poetic version of a speech given by Niemöller and not his original poem?

Yeah context is your friend now GTFO! LMFAO!

a reply to: Alien Abduct

No. I didn't read your unedited post, because you edited it. But regardless you are still wrong. You are trying to remove the Hitler association of those words when the context has ALWAYS been about Hitler and the Nazis.

Yeah context is your friend now GTFO! LMFAO!

Seriously, repeating this over and over is doing more to convince me that you don't know what the word context means.

context

1 : the parts of a discourse that surround a word or passage and can throw light on its meaning
2 : the interrelated conditions in which something exists or occurs : environment, setting

the historical context of the war

The context of that poem/speech is that he was talking about Hitler and the Nazis hauling people off to camps. End of story. Stop trying to redefine the context to suit your needs. You are just invoking Godwin's Law.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: damonster
You know what is hilarious, that the right is crying about censorship at the same time they want left media to be shut down, fined or charged.

I mean, there have been threads on this very issue.

Dismantle Mass Media News

43% of Republicans say Trump should be allowed to shut down media

There maybe more not sure though.

Heh. This thread was written today:
Why the MSM is a threat to society

Should have added to I guess and I was posting in that thread too..LMAO