GOP leader accuses Twitter of censoring conservatives, doesn't go as planned

a reply to: Krazysh0t

1. Good luck, and again, you're asking them to admit to it.
2. Vice did a study and found:

The Republican Party chair Ronna McDaniel, several conservative Republican congressmen, and Donald Trump Jr.’s spokesman no longer appear in the auto-populated drop-down search box on Twitter, VICE News has learned. It’s a shift that diminishes their reach on the platform — and it's the same one being deployed against prominent racists to limit their visibility. The profiles continue to appear when conducting a full search, but not in the more convenient and visible drop-down bar. (The accounts appear to also populate if you already follow the person.) Democrats are not being “shadow banned” in the same way, according to a VICE News review. McDaniel’s counterpart, Democratic Party chair Tom Perez, and liberal members of Congress — including Reps. Maxine Waters, Joe Kennedy III, Keith Ellison, and Mark Pocan — all continue to appear in drop-down search results. Not a single member of the 78-person Progressive Caucus faces the same situation in Twitter’s search.

3. I posted a video of their engineers and content people saying that it's the unwritten rule.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: TheSubversiveOne

Ever taken an ethics and technology course? Technology is a BIG part of any ethics issue. Technology makes it easier to exponentially make a problem much worse, or in this case, blur the lines as to what is and isn't censorship. Don't discount the technological aspect just because it doesn't support your position fully. That just means you need to update your thinking on what is and isn't censorship.

No I haven't. But I do know history. Twitter, and not someone's settings, is suppressing speech it deems "potentially sensitive".

a reply to: introvert

Because this

The single biggest driver for Swedes going into Election Day—Middle East migration. Sweden is now enduring violent crime waves.

Laura Ingraham added,
DRUDGE REPORT
@DRUDGE_REPORT
Far-right party may be about to topple century of Swedish socialism... nbcnews.to...
6:59 AM - 17 Aug 2018

Is not offensive in any way shape or form. What words or phrases are used here that should be in a content filter?

a reply to: TheSubversiveOne

No. This has NEVER been censoring and it certainly isn't a campaign against conservative content. Drudge Report flagged it's OWN content as sensitive before Ingraham even retweeted it.
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a reply to: Dfairlite

Just found this online. Drudge Report concealed their own tweets that were news related then Ingraham retweeted it, and finally, McCarthy demonstrated his lack of Twitter knowledge.
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: introvert

Because this

The single biggest driver for Swedes going into Election Day—Middle East migration. Sweden is now enduring violent crime waves.

Laura Ingraham added,
DRUDGE REPORT
@DRUDGE_REPORT
Far-right party may be about to topple century of Swedish socialism... nbcnews.to...
6:59 AM - 17 Aug 2018

Is not offensive in any way shape or form. What words or phrases are used here that should be in a content filter?

I'm not sure. Perhaps because it has the words "far-right" in it and there are some groups considered "far right" that tweet, which would not be suitable for kids. And let's remember, most of the people using twitter in the US are kids. But let's be very clear. It was not available to be viewed by that person because of their settings. That means that it may not have been that way for others.

a reply to: introvert

The news around this story just keeps getting funnier and funnier.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

So to summarize, this is a matter of their ignorance, not a conspiracy, and it was a matter of Drudge's settings, not that any words flagged the tweet.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Krazysh0t

So to summarize, this is a matter of their ignorance, not a conspiracy.

PREEEEEETY much. Case closed. Let's all have a laugh at the Luddite Caucus (not my label, but I feel it is a good description) showing they can't use modern technology.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

No. This has NEVER been censoring and it certainly isn't a campaign against conservative content. Drudge Report flagged it's OWN content as sensitive before Ingraham even retweeted it.

Yes, curating and picking and choosing which content is "sensitive" has always been censorship. Whether they were censored because of their ideologies is far less obvious.

a reply to: TheSubversiveOne

If you aren't going to admit you were wrong, then take it up with Drudge Report. They "censored" their own content. Go yell at them. Oh and you may want to yell at McCarthy for setting a setting on his profile to "censor" that content of Drudge Reports.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: TheSubversiveOne

If you aren't going to admit you were wrong, then take it up with Drudge Report. They "censored" their own content. Go yell at them. Oh and you may want to yell at McCarthy for setting a setting on his profile to "censor" that content of Drudge Reports.

My problem is with those who do not know what censorship is, are apologists for censorship, and blame the victims of censorship for the suppression of their own speech. Clearly twitter and its algorithms determines which content is "potentially sensitive or not". The user and the user settings do not determine which content is or isn't "potentially sensitive", and to argue otherwise is a fat lie.

a reply to: TheSubversiveOne

Clearly twitter and its algorithms determines which content is "potentially sensitive or not".

Clearly it doesn't because you keep ignoring the point that Drudge Report assigned the sensitive material label to their own news related tweets and Ingraham retweeted one of their tweets. You are literally arguing with the evidence I posted from a Twitter exec that proves you wrong all because you can't admit that you were wrong.

It's like you don't know what censorship is and are just judging this company because of your biases and preconceived notions.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Ummmm not quite, Inspector Clouseau. I just went back and RT'd the posts in question (both the drudge link and the ingraham link), then through a different connection went to my page (not logged in) and that tweet appears with no issues. So while that's a possibility of how to get that result, it doesn't apply to this situation.

a reply to: Dfairlite

What's your sensitive content setting set to?

a reply to: introvert

Doubtful, left leaning organizations love to label everyone far-right. They would see this sort of censorship often if that was somehow part of the triggering terminology.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I'm not logged in on the second device, so it's irrelevant. But for the sake of being thorough let me check.

EDIT: My settings are default (set to not show sensitive material and my quality filter was on)

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: TheSubversiveOne

Clearly twitter and its algorithms determines which content is "potentially sensitive or not".

Clearly it doesn't because you keep ignoring the point that Drudge Report assigned the sensitive material label to their own news related tweets and Ingraham retweeted one of their tweets. You are literally arguing with the evidence I posted from a Twitter exec that proves you wrong all because you can't admit that you were wrong.

It's like you don't know what censorship is and are just judging this company because of your biases and preconceived notions.

Did Drudge admit this?

Because by Twitter's own standards:

If one of your Tweets containing media is reported as sensitive, it will be sent to Twitter for review. If we find that the media wasn’t marked as being potentially sensitive at the time of the upload:

We may label the media as being potentially sensitive, or in the case of live video, remove the content entirely.

We may also change your account setting to Mark media you Tweet as containing material that may be sensitive so that future posts are marked accordingly.

You will be able to change your media settings on your account settings page, though this image and any other images that have been labeled will remain marked as potentially sensitive.

If you repeatedly upload media that is mislabeled, we may:

Label your media as having potentially sensitive content.

Permanently adjust your account setting to Mark media you Tweet as containing material that may be sensitive so that your future posts have a warning message users must click through before viewing your media.

Twitter may also use automated techniques to detect and label potentially sensitive media, and to detect and label accounts that frequently tweet potentially sensitive media.

Twitter Rules and Policies

a reply to: Dfairlite

Doubtful, left leaning organizations love to label everyone far-right.

Hyperbole is normal for people on both sides. You yourself are engaging in it.

They would see this sort of censorship often if that was somehow part of the triggering terminology.

But it does not appear to be happening often.

In this case, it was a matter of the ignorance on the user's part.

a reply to: Dfairlite

If it isn't being masked on your end then maybe Drudge changed things. Though if it isn't being masked then that means the "censoring" issue is no longer an issue now.