The Fruitage of the Spirit

a reply to: Akragon

whats your point?

Adding a number to my "rather small" statement about the size of the theoretical sphere earth.
I mean, this is not some really huge distance and you would not have to go very far before it was evident that you were going over a curve, or not very far up straight above to see the earth diminish in size to your eye, but it doesn't, the farther up you go, the bigger the earth gets.

a reply to: LolliKum

Come to Canada and drive across the praries... nice and flat out there

And as you head towards BC you will see the mountians rise from the horizon

So ya... again, easily provable if you actually try

On the other hand... flat earth... not a shred of evidence...

Nothing... zip... nada... zilch

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: LolliKum

Come to Canada and drive across the praries... nice and flat out there

And as you head towards BC you will see the mountians rise from the horizon

So ya... again, easily provable if you actually try

On the other hand... flat earth... not a shred of evidence...

Nothing... zip... nada... zilch

I like the way stupid people argue, back and forwards, back and forwards

a reply to: Raggedyman

I don't talk to stupid people...

a reply to: Akragon

Ha ha.

a reply to: Akragon

. . . you will see the mountians rise from the horizon . . .

You should do some research into the human eye and how it works and the limits to the resolving power of it.
When things are a certain distance, you just cannot see it with the naked eye.
Also there is the problem of perspective and the vanishing point, this is something else you can research, that there is a chaos zone where there is too much information for the eye to sort out.
As you approach things that are beyond your ordinary visual distance, the parts that are higher will get clear of the chaos zone before the lower parts because they are wider for the amount of visual information.

a reply to: LolliKum



doesn't matter in the least...

IF the world was flat you'd see the base of the mountains at the same time as the tops from a distance

And you don't... give it up... flat earth is a joke

and a bad one at that

a reply to: Akragon
I have come to the conclusion that you are a troll, so don't bother, I will ignore you.

a reply to: LolliKum

nope... I just believe flat earthers are morons

and as usual it always proves to be true

Nighty nite

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: redletter


I tend to wonder when "Jehovah"
exhibits said qualities...


especially in this time...


Though perhaps said entity does not need to adhere to his own rules?

Patience:

Humility:
“Wise in Heart”​—Yet Humble

Why can we be certain that Jehovah is humble?

A FATHER wants to impart a vital lesson to his small child. He is eager to reach the heart. What approach should he take? Should he tower intimidatingly over the child and use harsh language? Or should he bend down to the child’s level and speak in a mild, appealing manner? Surely a wise, humble father would choose the mild approach.

What kind of Father is Jehovah​—haughty or humble, harsh or mild? Jehovah is all-knowing, all-wise. Have you noticed, though, that knowledge and intelligence do not necessarily make people humble? As the Bible says, “knowledge puffs up.” (1 Corinthians 3:19; 8:1) But Jehovah, who is “wise in heart,” is also humble. (Job 9:4) Not that he is in any way low in position or lacking in grandeur, but he is devoid of haughtiness. Why is that so?

Jehovah is holy. So haughtiness, a quality that defiles, is not in him. (Mark 7:20-22) Further, note what the prophet Jeremiah said to Jehovah: “Without fail your soul [Jehovah himself] will remember and bow low over me.”* (Lamentations 3:20) Imagine! Jehovah, the Sovereign Lord of the universe, was willing to “bow low,” or come down to Jeremiah’s level, in order to give that imperfect human favorable attention. (Psalm 113:7) Yes, Jehovah is humble. But what does godly humility involve? How is it related to wisdom? And why is it important to us?

*: The ancient scribes, or Sopherim, changed this verse to say that Jeremiah, not Jehovah, is the one bowing low. They evidently thought it unfitting to attribute to God such a humble act. As a result, many translations miss the point of this beautiful verse. However, The New English Bible accurately has Jeremiah saying to God: “Remember, O remember, and stoop down to me.”

How Jehovah Proves to Be Humble
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Jehovah Humbly Delegates and Listens
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Jehovah Is Reasonable
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How Jehovah Displays Reasonableness
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Footnote: Interestingly, the Bible contrasts patience with haughtiness. (Ecclesiastes 7:8) Jehovah’s patience provides further evidence of his humility.​—2 Peter 3:9.

"For God is a God not of disorder but of peace. ..." (1 Cor.14:33a)

a reply to: whereislogic

"For God is a God not of disorder but of peace. ..." (1 Cor.14:33a)

IF this is the case his creation would know peace... but they know disorder just as said god does

a reply to: LolliKum
You may have already seen this:

An important message for those researching flat earth.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

You may have already seen this:

Oh, I am very skeptical and I don't see anyone as my leader.
And, I really do not see myself as wanting to convince anyone about any particular view about details of the earth so much.
Mainly I want to warn people that there is a flat earth movement and they should be aware of it and that there will be consequences.
I mean when the majority in your country like the US believe the sphere earth theory, it might seem safe to call flat earth believers all sorts of names and act like total jackasses to them, but this is flipping, mainly in the younger people, where now the majority of them do not believe in sphere earth or heliocentrism.

a reply to: LolliKum

I don't believe this at all. It is beyond credulous that people don't believe the earth is round. Well, the Bible says it is round (spherical) and hangs upon nothing. So they aren't people who believe in what God says. It seems more like a social-experiment.


(Isaiah 40:22) . . .There is One who dwells above the circle of the earth,. . .

(Job 26:7) . . .He stretches out the northern sky over empty space, Suspending the earth upon nothing;

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: whereislogic

"For God is a God not of disorder but of peace. ..." (1 Cor.14:33a)

IF this is the case his creation would know peace... but they know disorder just as said god does

Never did you read that God's creation is at peace.

In fact God created other beings with free-will to think like he does. He doesn't force them to be peaceful. Thus the mess we're in. Don't worry. He will apply his justice to injustice. Don't ever stop thinking for a second he stops having peace though. He is too pure and peaceful to look upon humankind in the mess it is in. He had put Jesus, his son in charge of his kingdom. And he has shown to be a perfect example of his Father. And willing to deal with humankind.

a reply to: redletter


actually it comes from Job

14The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its hills stand out like the folds of a garment.

a seal is flat... so they run with the vague description

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: redletter


actually it comes from Job

14The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its hills stand out like the folds of a garment.

a seal is flat... so they run with the vague description

Who can better describe the effect that the rising sun has on the darkness of the night than the very Source of light, Jehovah God? (Psalm 36:9) ‘When the morning light takes hold on the ends of the earth,’ God says, ‘the earth transforms itself like clay under a seal, and things take their station as in clothing.’ (Job 38:12-14) With increasing light from the sun, earth’s features take shape and become clearer, just as soft clay undergoes a transformation upon receiving an imprint from an emblem on a seal.

Jehovah is also the Source of spiritual light. (Psalm 43:3) While the world remains in dense darkness, the true God continues to shed light upon his people. With what result? The Bible answers: “The path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established.” (Proverbs 4:18) Increasing light from Jehovah continues to illuminate the path of his people. It refines them organizationally, doctrinally, and morally.

a reply to: redletter

. . . the Bible says it is round (spherical) . . .

A circle is not a sphere.
It says a circle in the Bible. If it meant a Ball, there is a word for that and it was not used.
People who are aware of the flat earth see it as encompassed within a circle, just as the Bible says.
I doubt it is a social experiment, but the result of social media especially among younger people like in High School and College, where things get spread around very quickly by them clicking on their phones to each other.

originally posted by: LolliKum
a reply to: redletter


*** w92 5/15 p. 5 Why the Bible Is God’s Inspired Gift ***
Some 2,700 years ago—long before people in general knew that the earth is round—the prophet Isaiah wrote: “There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth.” (Isaiah 40:22) The Hebrew word chugh here translated “circle,” may also be rendered “sphere.” (A Concordance of the Hebrew and Chaldee Scriptures, by B. Davidson) Then, too, “the circle” of the earth’s horizon is clearly seen from outer space and sometimes during high-altitude airplane travel. Incidentally, Job 26:7 says that God is “hanging the earth upon nothing.” This is true, for astronomers know that the earth has no visible means of support.

a reply to: redletter

no no.... see we can't get to outer space

the dome... remember?