Illinois manufacturer moving to Mexico over Trump tariffs

originally posted by: Metallicus
These tariffs shouldn't be treated as permanent because they aren't meant to be...they are a negotiating tool. If this company is pretending to move because of tariffs then they were for crap anyway...especially if they need Chinese steel to be profitable.

I'll at least give you credit for not immediately rejecting reality that this move is related to Trump's tariffs even if your analysis is a bit callous.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Not sure why that is a problem or even needed to be mentioned. Since when are we worried about people in Mexico or China having steady employment?

Since you neglected to mention the entire story.
That's when.


Typical.

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Keep on maga there Donald.
You're crushing it.

I'm sure this is fake news. The companies fault. Obama's fault.

Something like that. We will see

But, Hillary!!

originally posted by: havok

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Not sure why that is a problem or even needed to be mentioned. Since when are we worried about people in Mexico or China having steady employment?

Since you neglected to mention the entire story.
That's when.


Typical.

How is that part of the entire story exactly? Looks like minor details to me. Details being used to justify unproven theories about the move that contradict what the rep said in fact.

Stack-On Products will close its two Chicago-area plants in October and lay off 153 people, according to the Chicago Tribune.

They make a snippy product anyway.

Good riddens.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: timequake

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Nickn3
Maybe Mexico is a safer work environment than Chicago. Only time will tell.

The company CLEARLY said they are moving because of the tariffs. Don't play dumb.

They can claim that it was due to the tariffs, but it appears that this company was already operating multiple plants outside of the country. Its possible that it is merely an excuse to move the rest of their production outside as well in search of cheap labor. Cheap foreign labor is primarily why most companies leave. Payroll typically is the biggest chunk of any companies overhead costs.

It's funny when people make up their reality even when shown that the exact opposite is true.

Me: posts a source quoting a Stack On representative literally saying the move was initiated two months ago due to Trump's tariffs
Trump Defense Force: NOPE! Trump cannot be responsible it has to be something they were already planning on doing already.

No, some of us are just better at seeing through bullsh*t than others. If a guy approaches you on a subway and tell you he has a Rolex for sale for $10.00, do you believe him just because he said it?

Look, it takes months if not years of planning to move an operations out of the country. It isn't just done on a whim. Secondly, the company already has major plants in Mexico. I don't buy that they just all of a sudden decided to move to Mexico. It was in the works already and Trump is convenient cover for the PR backlash.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: havok

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Not sure why that is a problem or even needed to be mentioned. Since when are we worried about people in Mexico or China having steady employment?

Since you neglected to mention the entire story.
That's when.


Typical.

How is that part of the entire story exactly? Looks like minor details to me. Details being used to justify unproven theories about the move that contradict what the rep said in fact.

It is only a minor detail if you don't have the intellectual horsepower to connect dots.

The article says this..

“The operation is really not profitable,” Fletcher said. “Mr. Trump is part of this.”

Funny how they dont bother to mention the other parts leading to this decision.
Makes you wonder if it's bad journalism or agenda driven journalism.

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Keep on maga there Donald.
You're crushing it.

I'm sure this is fake news. The companies fault. Obama's fault.

Something like that. We will see

Yep they are closing their factory and firing 153 people so they can get their shi cheaper in Mexico..

But thats Trumps fault..

originally posted by: neo96

Stack-On Products will close its two Chicago-area plants in October and lay off 153 people, according to the Chicago Tribune.

They make a snippy product anyway.

Good riddens.

Yup, they make cheap products using cheap metals.

I wouldn't use their safes to store my rubber band gun.

a reply to: Muninn

Trumps bad for running off a GUN safe manufacturer!

You literally can not make this snip up.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: timequake

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Nickn3
Maybe Mexico is a safer work environment than Chicago. Only time will tell.

The company CLEARLY said they are moving because of the tariffs. Don't play dumb.

They can claim that it was due to the tariffs, but it appears that this company was already operating multiple plants outside of the country. Its possible that it is merely an excuse to move the rest of their production outside as well in search of cheap labor. Cheap foreign labor is primarily why most companies leave. Payroll typically is the biggest chunk of any companies overhead costs.

It's funny when people make up their reality even when shown that the exact opposite is true.

Me: posts a source quoting a Stack On representative literally saying the move was initiated two months ago due to Trump's tariffs
Trump Defense Force: NOPE! Trump cannot be responsible it has to be something they were already planning on doing already.

No, some of us are just better at seeing through bullsh*t than others. If a guy approaches you on a subway and tell you he has a Rolex for sale for $10.00, do you believe him just because he said it?

Have you ever heard of this thing called credibility? The Hill and the Chicago Tribune both have WAAAAY more credibility than some random on the subway. Furthermore, I see no reason to doubt the credibility of Stack On since no evidence has been presented to raise doubts in it. So we should therefore trust the words they say about their own company until shown otherwise.

Look, it takes months if not years of planning to move an operations out of the country. It isn't just done on a whim. Secondly, the company already has major plants in Mexico. I don't buy that they just all of a sudden decided to move to Mexico. It was in the works already and Trump is convenient cover for the PR backlash.

Ok and? This was decided on two months ago. Which is what you just said, it can take months for something like this to happen. Plus, I don't see anything saying that this move is happening tomorrow. It probably has a few more months of planning out.

You are REALLY reaching so you don't have to believe this story is true.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Nickn3
Maybe Mexico is a safer work environment than Chicago. Only time will tell.

The company CLEARLY said they are moving because of the tariffs. Don't play dumb.

Ya, R.J. Reynolds said their products were safe to...

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Keep on maga there Donald.
You're crushing it.

I'm sure this is fake news. The companies fault. Obama's fault.

Something like that. We will see

It is the companies fault but I know how you guys don't like to take responsibility for your own actions.
😤

a reply to: Krazysh0t

The majority of Stack-On safes are made in China, the Illinois "plant" was a packaging and shipping facility. Since the safes are from China, they'd run afoul of the tariff laws and cost more, so they'll package and ship from Mexico to bypass this issue UNTIL the NAFTA deal is truly dead and we properly implement tariffs on crap from Mexico, then Stack-On will either cease selling their poor quality gun "safes" in the US or they'll actually construct a true manufacturing facility here and make the "Made in the USA."

Notice the fact that you cannot find any advertising by Stack-On that touts "Made in the USA." This is because it wouldn't be legal for them to say it, because they're not and never have been made in the USA. In the firearm industry, a USA label is considered the holy grail and, where legally factual and allowable, it goes on EVERYTHING ad related. This is very minor loss which will result in major gains for America down the road.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yep minor details that the company had a whole whopping 150 employees in the US!

That also were offered relocation to El Paso. Didn’t include that either.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: havok

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Not sure why that is a problem or even needed to be mentioned. Since when are we worried about people in Mexico or China having steady employment?

Since you neglected to mention the entire story.
That's when.


Typical.

How is that part of the entire story exactly? Looks like minor details to me. Details being used to justify unproven theories about the move that contradict what the rep said in fact.

It is only a minor detail if you don't have the intellectual horsepower to connect dots.

Ok. Ad hominem aside, connect the dots for me. WITHOUT adding unknowns that weren't reported in the story, what is the significance of those plants?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: TinySickTears

Yea. I'm curious where his source that they weren't profitable before the tariffs is coming from. The two I posted in the thread don't say that.

there is no source.
theyre just talking # like always

so they had plants elsewhere. ok. so what?

and for 40 years they had these plants in the states. plants that are now going to close. because the tariffs.

but the followers will not believe it. they just create their own reality.
it seems to work for them

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yep minor details that the company had a whole whopping 150 employees in the US!

That also were offered relocation to El Paso. Didn’t include that either.

You clearly didn't read the OP. This is literally the bottom half of it:

But hey, at least Stack-On cares about Americans unlike the President. They are offering to help people relocate to El Paso, Texas so they can commute across the boarder to the new factory.


" Fletcher told the newspapers that some of the employees will be given the option to relocated to El Paso, Texas, across the border from its Stack-On factory."

a reply to: TinySickTears

Considering STACK ON is a gun safe manufacturer.

IT's damn sure GUN CONTROL plays a big part in their PROFITS.