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Monsanto Ordered to Pay $289 Million in California Roundup Cancer Trial

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posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 05:45 PM
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A California jury on Friday found Monsanto liable in a lawsuit filed by a man who alleged the company's glyphosate-based weed-killers, including Roundup, caused him cancer and ordered the company to pay $289 million in damages.

The case of school groundskeeper Dewayne Johnson was the first lawsuit alleging glyphosate causes cancer to go to trial. Monsanto, a unit of Bayer AG following a $62.5 billion acquisition by the German conglomerate, faces more than 5,000 similar lawsuits across the United States.

Monsanto Ordered to Pay $289 Million in California Roundup Cancer Trial

Wow, this is the largest payout to a single person by Monsanto, that I know of. And it comes just days after our administration reversed Obama era legislation to allow banned pesticides back into our environment again.

It has been a LONG battle against Monsanto and a frequent topic here on ATS over the years. Our drive has waned but this is good news to see such a large penalty for their disregard for human life and health. Any life really.

Thumbs up to California today.



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:15 PM
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In the city I saw this city / county / whatever workers out along this strip of wild trees weeds etc, near me, some years back, his job was to drive around with this truck that deployed a golf cart sort of vehicle out the back of it, and attached to the 'golf cart' was a big tank for Roundup. And attached to that, the dispenser, was effectively a 'pressure washer' sort of handle, with likewise pressure, that could spray a power jet stream some 20-30' high and long.

So there he was all happy go lucky, power blasting the vines etc that were trying to strangle these trees, and the dude was totally covered in the stuff. THis is what he did all day everyday. Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall. In FLORIDA, in the summer, there he was.

I think he had a hat on. Tshirt. Even if it was long-sleeved it wouldnt have mattered he was covered in it.

SO I went out there about losing it pleading to the guy at least get face protection, but seriously: GET A NEW JOB.

He said on the label it didnt say it would make you sick or whatever. I told him: "Too Much Water Will Kill A Plant".

The problem with that substance is its oily. Thats what helps it smother plant "stomata" and choke them will poisoning them; why rain water doesnt rinse it off them (not even hardly with dish soap).

And that's why youre body will soak it in maximum effectively via dermal penetration (soaking in thru the skin).

And he was breathing it while being covered in it. Every day. In the SUN.




posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: Kharron

A HUGE thumbs up to California today indeed...

The tree-huggers there have pushed so hard over the last generation to not use water correctly, not clean up the fuel in the forest, not allow anything to get California back to its natural state.

Now it is finally returning to that.



WTG eco-terrorists!!! It's only a matter of time before you get all those houses off of California again!!!




posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:17 PM
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And those idiots of Bayer bought that hellhole Monsanto, can´t stop laughing!
Doesn´t hit the wrong one now!



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:18 PM
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a reply to: Kharron

And per the usual, “scientific studies” done by different entities can’t seem to come to the same conclusions. Some studies are decades long.

But people are supposed to have ultimate faith in the scientific community and their research. It’s very similar to religion - faith is a requirement.



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:20 PM
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Monsanto doesn't even exist anymore.

Bayer bought them.



Bayer announced its intent to discontinue the Monsanto name, with the combined company operating solely under the Bayer brand.[73][74]


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posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:20 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Come man, source something besides Trump.



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:21 PM
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a reply to: Kharron

Right now I am sitting in my office smoking a cigarette and drinking some authentic Russian Vodka mixed with coke cola. (diet, the one with aspartame in it) Now ALL of those things we know have cancer causing properties every single one of them and yet here I am participating in my own demise in 40 years time or something)

Yet tomorrow I might do something or more to the point use something that not only I am unaware but the company who produces it is unaware of possible cancer causing properties. In that situation I categorically think there should be no law suits should it come to light later that they sold that product in good faith that it was safe but in fact killed people.

However, if they know and they choose to hide that fact for the sake of profits then I say throw the book at them, I just think it's absolutly ludicrous the world we live in that means if you make and sell something unknowing that it is a health risk you can be screwed over for millions if I was starting a new business it would terrify me that all the years I worked were in vain. Makes you wonder where they get their figures from as well... Seems an awfully high amount for just one person.



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:21 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Thats too perfect a fit:




posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

What happened to him?



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:29 PM
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a reply to: Kharron

Whoa! The value of a statistical life (VSL) is ~$7M and this guy got $289M and he’s still taking in air? I’ll dig through your link, but at first glance, that damage amount seems way off for a single claimant.

But yeah, Roundup is used everywhere — good luck growing any of today’s cultivars in a scalable fashion without it — so this is interesting.


ETA: I see that he got a cool quarter billion in punitive damages, so roughly a 6:1 damage ratio...he’s expected to live a few more years but he might wanna call J.G. Wentworth and get an advance on that settlement. Just saying.
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posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:31 PM
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Monsanto will just appeal the decision and drag it out till the guy is a hundred years old...so he will never see a penny of it. They will not pay out something like this, it would set precedence and show weakness.

Yes, Roundup can cause cancer in people who cannot properly break down the chemical, maybe ten percent of society. The thing is that many pesticides also have this or similar property. It also is not just people spraying it that can have one or more of multiple issues associated with this product. If you look only at cancer, you are just as foolish as millions of other people. These chemical companies have actually help structure the laws that govern them. Remember that.



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: randomtangentsrme

I dunno only saw him once. I know I had an impact on his thinking about it. Hung out with him for like 20 minutes while he was doing that mundane lonesome job detail. The snip was in the air I felt ill all day over it. I hammered against his unprotected method, that material, BS FDA BS, etc, from every angle. I saw red the moment I gathered the entire spectacle of what was going on over there. Had snip to do, but couldnt let it go. And Im not even an ORGANIC FOODS ONLY sort of maniac at all. Nor a GMO foods worry wart. Genetics are semi-irrelevant, unless there's some chemical composition difference between the end produce (which I've yet to ever see such a study even attempt to test or demonstrate). But the thing worth noting about the bulk of "GMO crops" is, its about making the plants "immune" to roundup, so they can douse the crops with the stuff without much thought or care, thus embedding it overarchingly & ubiquitously into our food "chain".
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posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:43 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

I dunno only saw him once. I know I had an impact on his thinking about it. Hung out with him for like 20 minutes while he was doing that mundane lonesome job detail. The snip was in the air I felt ill all day over it. I hammered against his unprotected method, that material, BS FDA BS, etc, from every angle. I saw red the moment I gathered the entire spectacle of what was going on over there. Had snip to do, but couldnt let it go. And Im not even an ORGANIC FOODS ONLY sort of maniac at all. Nor a GMO foods worry wart. Genetics are semi-irrelevant, unless there's some chemical composition difference between the end produce (which I've yet to ever see such a study even attempt to test or demonstrate). But the thing worth noting about the bulk of "GMO crops" is, its about making the plants "immune" to roundup, so they can douse the crops with the stuff without much thought or care, thus embedding it overarchingly & ubiquitously into our food "chain".


So what you are saying is you know nothing?



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:43 PM
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But all the scientists with all the credentials kept telling us it was safe.

Many ATS Members kept saying it was dangerous.

Some Members insisted we listen to the PhD's

💥😃💥



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:46 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse
Monsanto will just appeal the decision and drag it out till the guy is a hundred years old...so he will never see a penny of it. They will not pay out something like this, it would set precedence and show weakness.

Yes, Roundup can cause cancer in people who cannot properly break down the chemical, maybe ten percent of society. The thing is that many pesticides also have this or similar property. It also is not just people spraying it that can have one or more of multiple issues associated with this product. If you look only at cancer, you are just as foolish as millions of other people. These chemical companies have actually help structure the laws that govern them. Remember that.


Anything is possible but I don't think there will be many delays.


Johnson's case, filed in 2016, was fast-tracked for trial due to the severity of his non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, a cancer of the lymph system that he alleges was caused by Roundup and Ranger Pro, another Monsanto glyphosate herbicide. Johnson's doctors said he is unlikely to live past 2020.


To Beef's post above: it's $39 million in compensatory and $250 million in punitive damages. Punitive damages can far exceed the value of the case.

I found this a particularly interesting part of the article:

Brent Wisner, a lawyer for Johnson, in a statement said jurors for the first time had seen internal company documents "proving that Monsanto has known for decades that glyphosate and specifically Roundup could cause cancer." He called on Monsanto to "put consumer safety first over profits."


Thank you all for reading.



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:47 PM
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a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Which part suggests that in any way?



posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:55 PM
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originally posted by: Kharron

originally posted by: rickymouse
Monsanto will just appeal the decision and drag it out till the guy is a hundred years old...so he will never see a penny of it. They will not pay out something like this, it would set precedence and show weakness.

Yes, Roundup can cause cancer in people who cannot properly break down the chemical, maybe ten percent of society. The thing is that many pesticides also have this or similar property. It also is not just people spraying it that can have one or more of multiple issues associated with this product. If you look only at cancer, you are just as foolish as millions of other people. These chemical companies have actually help structure the laws that govern them. Remember that.


Anything is possible but I don't think there will be many delays.


Johnson's case, filed in 2016, was fast-tracked for trial due to the severity of his non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, a cancer of the lymph system that he alleges was caused by Roundup and Ranger Pro, another Monsanto glyphosate herbicide. Johnson's doctors said he is unlikely to live past 2020.


To Beef's post above: it's $39 million in compensatory and $250 million in punitive damages. Punitive damages can far exceed the value of the case.

I found this a particularly interesting part of the article:

Brent Wisner, a lawyer for Johnson, in a statement said jurors for the first time had seen internal company documents "proving that Monsanto has known for decades that glyphosate and specifically Roundup could cause cancer." He called on Monsanto to "put consumer safety first over profits."


Thank you all for reading.


Roundup has been approved by the government agencies and is not liable. Just because they were aware of evidence does not mean that that evidence was real or relevant. In the vast majority of cases Roundup does not cause cancer, or most people in California's farmland and farmland around the country would be full of cancer. It is only certain individuals that get cancer from it. Then the guys legal team will have to prove it was the roundup alone that caused the guy's cancer in the appeal, that will be hard to do. The synergetic effect of mixing chemistries can worsen the risk by ten fold, Monsanto does not have to worry about mixing other chemicals, their liability is only for the chemicals they make and at the proper concentrations. The guy will lose on appeals. Most cases like this are reversed on appeal.

Hey, I do not like Monsatan at all, but I have studied how their lawyers work. To combat the devil you must know the devil.
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posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 06:58 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss




He said on the label it didnt say it would make you sick or whatever.

It sounds like he didn't actually read it.
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Anyone seen those "internal documents" they're talking about?

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posted on Aug, 10 2018 @ 07:09 PM
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After WW2 a lot of NAZI's held high ranking civilian roles in pharma corps around the world, bayer is one such corporation, Monsanto likely had a very strong NAZI element as well especially if you remember operation paper clip.

Why did birth rate's fall in the west, why were generations after WW2 dumbed down, who but pharma corps were involved in this and of course whom really pulled there string's, medicine is more lucrative than war and offers a far greater method of creating a master race and subjugating all other races it just takes longer - call it he master plan 2.0 if you like.

They owned the politician's of the country's that sheltered them, they even had there vile crime's hidden by the states and within just a decade were taking over the US intelligence services.

In 1946 there was a reliable report of Hitler being seen ALIVE mustache shaved off in a restaurant Washington DC so who was he meeting with except of course high ranking members of the US government with whom we must assume he had a secret agreement possibly in exchange for all of that NAZI science - to the victors go the spoil's but who really was the victor.

Controlling intelligence of there host nation like a hidden parasite, controlling vast wealth and corporations which became dominant in the world in all realms of science from electronic's to medical science.

Don't you think it is a little odd that a company which is a patent enemy of it's host nation and produces pesticides and weed killers which kill people, destroy the eco system and ruin the country while also creating genetically modified plant's which it alone hold's the patent's for in the best James bond villain style would be protected by the government of it's host nation so completely unless of course it was the owner of that government when in fact it should have been raided and closed down long before it was even sold to it's sister conglomerate of Bayer which in reality never changed anything but just made it even more capable of using a far larger unified plan to go after new targets while working toward the completion of the master plan 2.0.

They may not be called NAZI's anymore but that is who they serve believe it or not.

And it's not just pharma corp's
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Dumbing down?.

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