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REAL DEMON PHOTOGRAPHED: The Case of Joe Martinez

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posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 03:59 PM
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originally posted by: blueman12
Way to turn something interesting into a totally boring thread.


"boring" lol.



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 06:50 PM
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originally posted by: peacefulpete

originally posted by: blueman12
Way to turn something interesting into a totally boring thread.


"boring" lol.


Yes it is, there's not much beyond "looks like a demon dog" and the guy making up reasons to confirm in his own mind that it was a demon alerting him about dropping drugs, what else can be added?

I read more posts here and the theory that it is part of the wall carpet and other things combined to create the image of a demon dog makes more sense. It has more proof than just saying "looks like a crazy dog on drugs asking for money for more drugs" then jumping to conclusion and saying "It must be a demon that came to me because i was doing drugs and now I'm saved! Thanks demon from hell for saving my life and soul"

So, it is a demon dog, now what?
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posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 06:59 PM
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a reply to: WarriorMH

It wasn't hell that saved him, it was the deliverer who made the demon visible to Martinez to show him. A wake up call.



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 07:06 PM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
a reply to: WarriorMH

It wasn't hell that saved him, it was the deliverer who made the demon visible to Martinez to show him. A wake up call.


Says who, the guy. How do you know? Are you interpreting reality or how do you get to this?

You see, the problem with things like this is, is all in your head. If you were to say that a plane fell from the sky and scratches your car on the driver side and you are alive and happens that the day before you had a bad day and argued badly with your parents/wife/boss or whatever, would you say that heaven caused the plane to go down just to wake you up about how bad you are doing?

I thought you and me and all had free will, to chose and be judged later on but they interfere when it is supposed to be a "let them do as they wish and we'll see who does well and who does not"

No offense but idea of having a demon on your back whispering bad things to your ear and making sure you do them is kids thinking on how things work. Demons were angels, right? No where in the bible or anywhere else says they were turned into ugly beings, they are just the same but think different, if you read the book for real, the idea of being ugly things just show that people were told they must be afraid and the way to make kids afraid of things is making them ugly and so that they fear
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posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 07:16 PM
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a reply to: WarriorMH

I have personally seen demons so I know what they can do, and that they are real and that they HATE human beings.

If you don't think the image is real that is your choice. Demons have but one job which is compulsory, and that is to cause humans to commit sins or destroy their lives by any other means available.

I'm not telling you to believe that is true, you can simply believe it or not.



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
a reply to: WarriorMH

I have personally seen demons so I know what they can do, and that they are real and that they HATE human beings.

If you don't think the image is real that is your choice. Demons have but one job which is compulsory, and that is to cause humans to commit sins or destroy their lives by any other means available.

I'm not telling you to believe that is true, you can simply believe it or not.


If you think there is a race of higher beings, capable of doing things that are humanly impossible, from a completely higher dimension and full of power and that are energy being and somehow have decided that their only purpose on life is to destroy the human race, you are free to believe that too

But just for a moment consider this, they are higher beings, angels. You really think they have nothing better to do than to spend their unlimited time destroying the lesser human race?

I don't know if you have seen or not, i have seen things too, i am not afraid or change my life because of it, it does not make sense that you let things around you affect you. If you have a drugs problem no one will help or get you out of it except you by your own, you may get help but you will not get better if you don't want to.

There is no angelical wake call unless you are interpreting things to create one of your own because you wanted to get out but could not and had to imagine someone higher than you tell you so

This is all the same thing about people not being able to live without having to look up and bend to someone else, that's how we got to having queens and kings and gods and whatever, people need to bend the knee to something/someone that will tell them how and what to do

That's also your choice, you could also interpret this as a moment in where two universes somehow got all mixed up and we got to see a being from the other universe, which is full of ugly dogs desperate for more drugs. Why jump to "demon" and a sign from heaven unless that's what you desperately needed to believe?



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 07:29 PM
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I can't say if the image is real or not, but it sure does look like a dog at first glance and then at a longer look it starts to almost look like a weird bull like head.

Interesting 10 minute waste of my life...lol

s&f

There are things out there,
but there is no real way to tell if this is or is not one of those things.



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 07:29 PM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
a reply to: WarriorMH

I have personally seen demons so I know what they can do, and that they are real and that they HATE human beings.

If you don't think the image is real that is your choice. Demons have but one job which is compulsory, and that is to cause humans to commit sins or destroy their lives by any other means available.

I'm not telling you to believe that is true, you can simply believe it or not.


I will tell you why i don't think any of this is true

I was raised without any religion, i did not had a concept of "god" as a superior being ever, until 4 years ago or so when i was 13, i did not like the experience of seeing people bend down and kneel before something they could not really understand.

I did not like people going crazy mad to me because of questioning holes in the logic, i did not like people thinking i was evil because i would not take my baseball hat off when going into the church or make the sign they did or doing all those things.

You seem to be religious, let me ask you something, why do you use human, physical things as a sign of respect, to a being that is way so away from those things and could not care less if you have a hat or a glass in your hand or don't kneel?

Is thinking that a very very higher superior being going to get mad at you if you show lack of respect by not doing as everyone else a sign that he is the actual real creator? Do you think he cares if you go to church in sandals and not well dressed?

What do you think they do day by day? Do you think they only live to take care of us?

Do they have houses? Do they have bathroom? What do they eat? Do God has servants? Who cleans his house? Washes his clothes?

Why do you think God is a 'he'? Do you think he ever goes crazy mad at people? The bible says he does but why?

And don't say this is mysterious and whatever because that only shows you don't know a thing about it then, and therefore you could never be in enough knowledge to say that this demon dog was displayed on that picture for any specific purpose, because you can't know for real


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posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 07:43 PM
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What you describe are the things people have wrongly told themselves are the rules for Christian behavior, and not any actual true rules that God expects people to follow, like wearing sandals or hats in church. Those are all superficial things that overzealous humans have ordained.

People do that a lot, they impose untrue rules on themselves and others and claim it is God's rule, and then condemn others if they do things like that to make them feel elevated above others. God's rules are simple, hurt no one and love everyone are the most important that I know of.

Everything else is done by people who have the power if they so choose it to avoid doing evil things, but who often don't.



posted on Aug, 11 2018 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
a reply to: WarriorMH

What you describe are the things people have wrongly told themselves are the rules for Christian behavior, and not any actual true rules that God expects people to follow, like wearing sandals or hats in church. Those are all superficial things that overzealous humans have ordained.

People do that a lot, they impose untrue rules on themselves and others and claim it is God's rule, and then condemn others if they do things like that to make them feel elevated above others. God's rules are simple, hurt no one and love everyone are the most important that I know of.

Everything else is done by people who have the power if they so choose it to avoid doing evil things, but who often don't.


You remind me of something i read a bit ago:

- God says we should do this
- How do you know God did say that?
- The bible tells so, is the word of God
- How do you know it is the word of God?
- The bible tells so..

Everything including what you said, is just your own perception

Loving everyone and not hurting other people is not a rule of God, is or should be human nature, is normal. just like a mother protecting their children on some island that has never had any contact with other races or humans or has the concept of God, it just is.

If you go walking on the field and there's a flower growing in the middle of the road, why is it there?

Religion perception is not much different than this image



I don't hate you, please don't hate me ok, i just don't agree with you right now. I have not seen how i could, i was raised free of all those things and nothing makes sense to me. From my point of view, it just seems as people who have been told it has to be that way and there's nothing else to look at. It just doesn't seem free will at all if you are given two choices and one of them you are told is forbidden
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posted on Aug, 12 2018 @ 09:52 AM
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Re: Dog pupils: It's actually true that dogs don't have small pupils like that, regardless the light levels. I checked by looking in my dog's eyes, in a dark room, before I posted it.


In a dark room so their pupils are wide open to get as much light as they can?

Are you for real?

Its in the light that the pupils go small not big, This is just beyond ignorance


Not learn those very simple things in school yet?




But actually to be more accurate: Dog pupils are bigger than that but also, the surrounding iris fills in most of the dog's open eye.



what accurate?


You fail to know simple things like what light does to your eyes, do you have eyes?

Understandable if you don't but if you have eyes then.........yeah no words can express ......





posted on Aug, 12 2018 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: peacefulpete




Re: Dog pupils: It's actually true that dogs don't have small pupils like that, regardless the light levels. I checked by looking in my dog's eyes, in a dark room, before I posted it.


In a dark room so their pupils are wide open to get as much light as they can?

Are you for real?

Its in the light that the pupils go small not big, This is just beyond ignorance


Not learn those very simple things in school yet?




But actually to be more accurate: Dog pupils are bigger than that but also, the surrounding iris fills in most of the dog's open eye.



what accurate?


You fail to know simple things like what light does to your eyes, do you have eyes?

Understandable if you don't but if you have eyes then.........yeah no words can express ......




Man I posted photos that showed exactly what I was saying.



posted on Aug, 12 2018 @ 12:18 PM
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For InhaleExhale, I'll re-post this for you, since you seem to have missed it:


originally posted by: peacefulpete

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: peacefulpete




It's not childish


Its beyond childish.


It has absolutely nothing to do with anything yet here you are doing exactly what you say others do.


now search engines are the discussion, you have serious issues.




No one should really be using Bing in the first place, as far as I can tell. Let alone mixing up Bing with Google lol.



Great thank you for your expert advice.


So far you have shown that you are at eldest 15 years old or maybe your body is older but your analytical thinking is that of an arrogant teen, your responses are that of an arrogant teen.

Your infatuation with gays, having sex with mothers is also that of very immature teen.

Your calling of everyone a troll are that of an arrogant teen.



WOW what a pattern.





Someone in the linked thread pointed out that dogs don't have small pupils like that.


hey look

another example is ignorant teen thinking.


Pupils dilate depending on how much light is around.

But if its on the internet and was found using google you can trust it, so long it was google.


Thanks for the laughs from the first part of your post.

Re: Dog pupils: It's actually true that dogs don't have small pupils like that, regardless the light levels. I checked by looking in my dog's eyes, in a dark room, before I posted it.

But actually to be more accurate: Dog pupils are bigger than that but also, the surrounding iris fills in most of the dog's open eye.






Indeed the structure of the eye looks different and more similar to human eyes with our smaller iris and pupils.




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posted on Aug, 12 2018 @ 12:37 PM
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Man I posted photos that showed exactly what I was saying.



Cute dog by the way, Gorgeous eyes at least we can agree on that.

However, if you read the reply to your post with the photo its about what you said not the photo you posted.


Pupil don't constrict when its dark, you need light for the pupils to constrict.





For InhaleExhale, I'll re-post this for you, since you seem to have missed it:


NO I didn't miss anything

I addressed that post directly and quoted exactly what I was addressing.


Not sure why you keep banging on about a dog, It only looks like one because its pointed out or you were lead to see it via the image manipulation that you don't understand is image manipulation or a mix of the 2.

without being led, I saw decorations on the wall behind the couple. When a devil Dog is mentioned its easy to see it.

The decorations are similar to woven carpets and other woven decorations that can be hung up on a wall, so logic tells me that having decorations at a wedding isn't really far fetched and is a reasonable explains given where the pic is taken.



posted on Aug, 12 2018 @ 01:21 PM
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Yeah you're just finding some small details of semantics to argue about.

I didn't explain it great at 1st but the photos do show what I was talking about.

What I meant about the dark room is that I happened to look at my dog in a dark room, before I made that post. Just because we were in a dark room.

And I could see what the photo shows, that dog pupils are comparatively much bigger than our pupils, and their iris fills in most of their open eye. It's a different structure than human eyes. The demon dog photo seems to show a structure more like human eyes, with a small pupil similar to a human pupil. I'm not sure what to think about the sickly yellow color surrounding the small pupils, and whether or not that matches with the iris in a dog.



posted on Aug, 12 2018 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: peacefulpete

Idk if anybody else asked yet if there are other pictures from that wedding. Would be interested in seeing those.



posted on Aug, 12 2018 @ 07:20 PM
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I don't believe it's a demon, nor do I believe it's a dog, but it still scares the # out of me. One of the most terrifying photos I have EVER seen.

I'm of the belief that it's some kind of optical illusion. In the original photo where the color isn't shifted, to me, it looks like the "nose" is the top of some kind of alcohol bottle and the red "mouth" is some kind of label on the bottle neck. The "eyes" look like some kind of flower to me, with the "pupils" being the flower stigma and the rest of the "head" (or most of it) being a blurry flower bouquet/flower arrangement. Note that it only looks this way to me in the more blurry, unzoomed verions of the photo where the "dog's head" appears more green in color. It would make since seeing as how there appears to be a table with various things on it directly behind the bride and groom in the photo.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 08:18 AM
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Yeah you're just finding some small details of semantics to argue about.


semantics?


basic facts is what I was talking about, how light makes the pupils go smaller which you said the opposite.


If you want to call it semantics when ever you post nonsense and someone points it out I guess I can learn your new vocabulary with new meanings for words.




What I meant about the dark room is that I happened to look at my dog in a dark room, before I made that post. Just because we were in a dark room.



This above is the nonsense I am talking about.


what you don't seem to understand is that in a dark room pupils will be large not small, dark means very little light so the pupils open up to gather as much light as they can so visions is possible.


When its bright and there is a lot of light is when the pupils go small.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 08:40 AM
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My simple observation:

Looking at the pics that you shared, it looks like the woman's arm wraps around the back of him and her hand rests on his shoulder. The colorized version adds red where her fingertips would be located. If this is the case, the whole bottom jaw of the 'dog/demon' is actually her hand. The black between the 'eyes' looks just like the other leaves in the plant behind them. The 'nose' is green perhaps there was a decoration on the table. The 'eyes' are freaky looking but if decoration was reflective it may have been reflecting another light source that actually was in front of the couple.

I do not think this is a demon, but if psychologically, this man had perceived it as such and it allowed him to change his life for the better...I am all for that. It is an individual statement of fact for him alone not proof of demons.



posted on Aug, 13 2018 @ 12:48 PM
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originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: peacefulpete




Yeah you're just finding some small details of semantics to argue about.


semantics?


basic facts is what I was talking about, how light makes the pupils go smaller which you said the opposite.


If you want to call it semantics when ever you post nonsense and someone points it out I guess I can learn your new vocabulary with new meanings for words.




What I meant about the dark room is that I happened to look at my dog in a dark room, before I made that post. Just because we were in a dark room.



This above is the nonsense I am talking about.


what you don't seem to understand is that in a dark room pupils will be large not small, dark means very little light so the pupils open up to gather as much light as they can so visions is possible.


When its bright and there is a lot of light is when the pupils go small.



Yeah this is just more semantic nonsense. The meaning of what I was saying has been clear for days already, illustrated with the photos I posted for crystal-clarity of what I was saying.



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