This dude walks into my office

So this older gentleman walks into my office building like he owns the place. Scares all my employees and marches up to my door. As if I didn’t Fing see him come in. I know who this man is and what his job is. He is the older version of me and to be honest kinda bad at his job. He knocked on my door very loudly and rude like. I let him in, he then sits down without even being asked.......Ughhhh.....Then he asks for my help on a matter that he should be able to do on his own. Now I have no problem with helping others but this is ABC, or it should be. DUDE you have been doing this for 20+ freaking years and you are asking me for help?! WTF man? I wanted to hit him right in the face and yell at the same time. This is textbook freaking work. You walk in assess the area and speak to management. Then assume they know what they are doing and figure out how to help. How the F* do you screw that up? So I will help him and not put this meeting on any emails. But cmon man....if you can’t do it anymore than just retire. Find something else IDC.

So your boss came into your office?

a reply to: Allaroundyou

Sorry.

I should have called first.

I'm confused .... Is he your boss ? Or do you own the company and he is your management ?

a reply to: Allaroundyou

He was probably pissed you didn't fill in key details......

maybe he stormed in because thats the only way he could get his pride up and swallowed by asking for Help ? ... Sometimes it's really hard for older people To ask for help . They feel inadequate and frustrated ...... And if you have an " open door " policy then you have to take the good with bad with he dumb issues and all the other inquiries in between ....sucks , but true . .... But Sounds like by not putting this in an email you are cutting him some slack . Good for you , good deed for The day .

You need a kit kat bar. Your blood sugar is low

a reply to: Allaroundyou

Much as it pains you, treat 'im kindly. That might be you someday.

a reply to: Allaroundyou

I'm glad I don't work with you.

As a manager of personnel, you sound like you are way out of your depth.

I mean, you take offense at someone elderly sitting down? Are you so arrogant that you think you need to give people permission to sit down?

It also sounds like they did exactly what you suggested, they walked in, assessed the area and then spoke to management.

Sounds like the elder has concerns for the way you are doing things, but gave you the benefit of the doubt to evaluate how you would handle things, and you have totally failed the test.

If you can't do your job, then find something else.

a reply to: chr0naut

Well obviously non of us where there to understand in what context all that happened or the power hierarchy i.e was he your equal, your boss, your employee? I personally am a Director of a company so deal with staff daily. Some have #ty days and treat me with respect but you can tell something is up.. some new employees try to treat me as a friend (soon put a stop to that) and some will try to treat me as their equal or sub peer, again that is dealt with their and then.

If he is your employee obviously tell him what you expect as an employee including behaviour when coming into your office, if he is your boss perhaps just moan to your better half at home as everyone else in the world does, if he is your equal then really you can't moan at all.

Remember, if you are a door matt people will in fact wipe their feet on you! Man up fella.

a reply to: chr0naut

I may be out of my depths but I know common curiosity. If you are in front of a desk then you wait to be seated or ask beforehand. I have no problem helping those I work with but rules and curtesy must be upheld. He is older than I and to he fealt uncomfortable asking for help. So he compensated in the manner he knew. But still do people not have the ability to learn anymore?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Allaroundyou

Sorry.

I should have called first.

What’s funny is the entire time he was speaking I kept having this feeling it was you. Do you travel to Vegas often or just stick to the high west coast?

originally posted by: Allaroundyou

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Allaroundyou

Sorry.

I should have called first.

What’s funny is the entire time he was speaking I kept having this feeling it was you. Do you travel to Vegas often or just stick to the high west coast?

I have never been to Vegas where I stay at the Bellagio where I have never been.

He's been doing thr job 20+ years and needs to ask for help? Sounds like management have dropped the ball.. Don't know how the workplace really runs, maybe? Managers that complain about staff dealing with a shtty work environment rarely do bother with the impact of their own inane policies...

a reply to: Allaroundyou

Now I need a damn kit kat bar myself...


That's one of the reasons that I'm a recluse and avoid people whenever I can.

Unless it was someone armed with a high power weapon, I couldn't tolerate such disrespect from anyone.

I'm pretty sure that as soon as I got bailed out of jail, I'd be looking for new employment. I'd probably wind up as a burger flipper at McDonald's.

Kudos to you for keeping your composure!


-dex

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: chr0naut

I may be out of my depths but I know common curiosity. If you are in front of a desk then you wait to be seated or ask beforehand. I have no problem helping those I work with but rules and curtesy must be upheld. He is older than I and to he fealt uncomfortable asking for help. So he compensated in the manner he knew. But still do people not have the ability to learn anymore?

If you are out of your depth and he is unsure of what to do, it sounds like an alliance of abilities would be effective here.

If you feel slighted and are in a position of authority and he is coming to you for guidance, then sort the primary issue as priority, but also thank him for being open enough to swallow his pride. Ask (nicely) that he respect your position, too. After all, you both ultimately have common goals and need to work together to get the best out of things.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: chr0naut

I may be out of my depths but I know common curiosity. If you are in front of a desk then you wait to be seated or ask beforehand. I have no problem helping those I work with but rules and curtesy must be upheld. He is older than I and to he fealt uncomfortable asking for help. So he compensated in the manner he knew. But still do people not have the ability to learn anymore?

If you are out of your depth and he is unsure of what to do, it sounds like an alliance of abilities would be effective here.

If you feel slighted and are in a position of authority and he is coming to you for guidance, then sort the primary issue as priority, but also thank him for being open enough to swallow his pride. Ask (nicely) that he respect your position, too. After all, you both ultimately have common goals and need to work together to get the best out of things.

OK... That was and is very good advice. Thank you

originally posted by: Allaroundyou

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: chr0naut

I may be out of my depths but I know common curiosity. If you are in front of a desk then you wait to be seated or ask beforehand. I have no problem helping those I work with but rules and curtesy must be upheld. He is older than I and to he fealt uncomfortable asking for help. So he compensated in the manner he knew. But still do people not have the ability to learn anymore?

If you are out of your depth and he is unsure of what to do, it sounds like an alliance of abilities would be effective here.

If you feel slighted and are in a position of authority and he is coming to you for guidance, then sort the primary issue as priority, but also thank him for being open enough to swallow his pride. Ask (nicely) that he respect your position, too. After all, you both ultimately have common goals and need to work together to get the best out of things.

OK... That was and is very good advice. Thank you

Cheers. Thanks for being reasonable, I have been a bit hard on several AboveTopSecretions today, too. I should take my own advice.

originally posted by: SummerRain
He's been doing thr job 20+ years and needs to ask for help? Sounds like management have dropped the ball.. Don't know how the workplace really runs, maybe? Managers that complain about staff dealing with a shtty work environment rarely do bother with the impact of their own inane policies...

If it is anything like some places I've worked at, each department is constantly changing procedures, forms, processes, merging groups, specializing groups, outsourcing work, insourcing previously outsourced work, creating online request booking systems, all to try and "improve" productivity. All during this time, one or more workers will write a wiki that was accurate for that point in time. Then they transfer to another department.

I play both text based and 3D RPG games in my spare time - there is no difference between something like playing SpaceQuest and trying to get a broken monitor fixed.