The NRA Says It’s in Deep Financial Trouble, May Be ‘Unable to Exist’

a reply to: atsgrounded

Maybe we should send them our thoughts and prayers, huh?

Why don't you send your thoughts and prayers too all the poor people in this country being bankrupted because business criminals like Trump have driven the cost of living into the stratosphere?

A group that has become way more powerful then it should be.

Lessening their power is a good thing.

www.bbc.com... odd as of april they were breaking fundraising records

The powerful gun lobby's political fund raised $2.4 million (£1.7 million) in March, filings submitted to the Federal Elections Commissions (FEC) show. The total marks the most it has raised in a single month since June 2003. March was the group's first month of fundraising since the Parkland school shooting in Florida left 17 dead. Most of the donations, which was $1.5m more than it raised last year during the same period, came from donors who gave less than $200 (£143), FEC records show. This is not the first time a shooting has resulted in a boost in donations. The NRA raised $1.1m (£787,000) and $1.5m (£1m) in January and February 2013, just after the Sandy Hook school shooting in Connecticut.

www.independent.co.uk... it could just be a PR move in their lawsuit against cumo in NY that alleges he is stepping on their first amendment rights

In its lawsuit against Mr Cuomo and the New York Department of Financial Services, the group alleges state officials sought to "deprive the NRA and its constituents of their First Amendment rights to speak freely about gun-related issues and defend the Second Amendment." Is the NRA really running out of money? In the complaint, the NRA describes its internal state of affairs as having virtually depleted all resources while heading towards bankruptcy. However, while the non-profit's multi-million dollar media entities might actually be in real jeopardy in the coming months, the NRA’s foundation remains mostly intact. Despite having a track record of financial instability — the group overspent by nearly $46m in 2016, according to a ProPublica investigation — the NRA continues to maintain steady donations from its nationwide members. The organisation saw a spike in donations following the Parkland school shooting earlier this year, increasing by nearly 500 per cent from the week prior to the historic tragedy.

so may hit their media arm more then the organization its self

freebeacon.com... they are also still out raising their competition

The National Rifle Association's political action committee outraised its major gun-control rivals again in May, Federal Election Commission records show. The NRA's Political Victory Fund, the gun-rights group's PAC, raised $1,164,540.23 in the month of May. That's nearly $325,000 more than the top three gun-control PACs combined. It is also, however, a retreat of $687,783.05 from the NRA PAC's April fundraising total. Though still raising significantly less than the NRA, gun-control PACs from Giffords and Everytown for Gun Safety both saw increases in their fundraising totals over April. Giffords brought in $804,821.74, which is $151,311.21 more than the previous month. Everytown brought in $35,077.30, which is $18,524.97 more than the previous month. The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence Voter Education Fund, which raised $4,015.00 in April, did not have a filing available for May on the FEC website. The NRA PAC raised the majority of its money, $977,260.77, from small donors who gave less than $200. The other $187,279.41 came from those who gave more than $200. It spent $84,821.50 in May and ended the month with $8,697,964.23 cash on hand. Giffords spent $536,234.38 in May and ended the month with $6,182,515.90 cash on hand. Everytown spent $10,458.66 in May and ended the month with $85,752.11 cash on hand.

dont think the NRA will be going anywhere any time soon but may see less funds as the kavanaugh confirmation and goursh pending confirmations/ confirmation and recent rulings appearing to make gun rights safer then they have been in a while.

who knows trump likes his rallies so perhaps he will hold one for NRA

originally posted by: Metallicus
If you eliminate the rational voice of the 2nd amendment supporters you better be ready to face the irrational voice because it will be coming and I don't think you will like it much.

You realize the '2nd amendment supporter' NRA pushed for gun control in California after a bunch of black people went around open carrying when Reagan was governor, yeah?

The Mulford Act - passed by Republicans and Democrats, signed into law by a Reagan.

Remember how long it took those '2nd amendment supporter' NRA to speak up about the shooting of legal concealed carry Philando Castile? Oh and when they spoke up, they didn't defend the victim of a bad shooting?

The NRA are not your friends. They are not friends of the 2nd Amendment. They are a propaganda wing for gun manufacturers.

originally posted by: Greven
The NRA are not your friends. They are not friends of the 2nd Amendment. They are a propaganda wing for gun manufacturers.

Yes.

That is what they have become.

BTW - I am a gun owner and was once a member of the NRA.

So....how many NRA members percentage-wise have shot up a place versus non-NRA members? Think maybe losing their group might be a bad thing?

how many NRA members percentage-wise have shot up a place versus non-NRA members?

Probably way more than non-gun owners have. Your idea is illogical.

originally posted by: amazing
That's because they spend to much money on stupid stuff. They have all the support they need.

I realize they're a lobbying group for the Second Amendment.

The National Rifle Association and its affiliates spent over $50 million in political advertisements in the last US general election, boosting Republicans who promised to support the NRA and targeting Democrats who propose stricter gun laws.

I understand the strategy and concept but I think that's too much money and they over reached, over extended.

They also spend too much time on non issues, like responding too quickly and insensitively after shootings or arguing with David Hogg etc.

Yup. I don't even read American Rifleman or the handful of other magazines they keep sending me. They spend way too much of the members contributions on crap, then have the nerve to continue soliciting me for money. I want to continue to keep my dues paid, but I feel they've over reached and aren't spending their money wisely, compound the fact they continue to draw attention to themselves.

And I see many still don’t bother to learn the difference between the NRA proper, which uses membersip dues to fund safety classes, youth programs on hunting safety, beginner classes for new gun owners, etc., and the NRA-ILA, which is the legislative and lobbying arm of the NRA (which does do silly thing sometimes) and has a completely separate fund raising process. Not surprising though, as many people these days seem to be jumping to extraordinary conclusions without arming themselves with facts (pun intended).

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: amazing
That's because they spend to much money on stupid stuff. They have all the support they need.

I realize they're a lobbying group for the Second Amendment.

The National Rifle Association and its affiliates spent over $50 million in political advertisements in the last US general election, boosting Republicans who promised to support the NRA and targeting Democrats who propose stricter gun laws.

I understand the strategy and concept but I think that's too much money and they over reached, over extended.

They also spend too much time on non issues, like responding too quickly and insensitively after shootings or arguing with David Hogg etc.

Yup. I don't even read American Rifleman or the handful of other magazines they keep sending me. They spend way too much of the members contributions on crap, then have the nerve to continue soliciting me for money. I want to continue to keep my dues paid, but I feel they've over reached and aren't spending their money wisely, compound the fact they continue to draw attention to themselves.

You do know you can stop the paper products and go Electronic?

originally posted by: Lab4Us
And I see many still don’t bother to learn the difference between the NRA proper, which uses membersip dues to fund safety classes, youth programs on hunting safety, beginner classes for new gun owners, etc., and the NRA-ILA, which is the legislative and lobbying arm of the NRA (which does do silly thing sometimes) and has a completely separate fund raising process. Not surprising though, as many people these days seem to be jumping to extraordinary conclusions without arming themselves with facts (pun intended).

Why should I separate them?

Pay your own way - - I guess. No NRA charity.

a reply to: CB328

Wrong. No NRA member has committed a mass shooting. And Adam Lanza never purchased a firearm. Every one belonged to his mother.

originally posted by: Lab4Us

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: amazing
That's because they spend to much money on stupid stuff. They have all the support they need.

I realize they're a lobbying group for the Second Amendment.

The National Rifle Association and its affiliates spent over $50 million in political advertisements in the last US general election, boosting Republicans who promised to support the NRA and targeting Democrats who propose stricter gun laws.

I understand the strategy and concept but I think that's too much money and they over reached, over extended.

They also spend too much time on non issues, like responding too quickly and insensitively after shootings or arguing with David Hogg etc.

Yup. I don't even read American Rifleman or the handful of other magazines they keep sending me. They spend way too much of the members contributions on crap, then have the nerve to continue soliciting me for money. I want to continue to keep my dues paid, but I feel they've over reached and aren't spending their money wisely, compound the fact they continue to draw attention to themselves.

You do know you can stop the paper products and go Electronic?

I still wouldn't read em. I get my gun news from a site called ATS.

originally posted by: CB328
Finally some good news!! As if we don't have enough gun psychos in America

Actually, most of the gun psychos in America are waddling down the street stoned out of their minds. The average NRA member is downright sane compared to the average street thug. That's a fact. There have been more people killed by ignorant gangbangers on the streets than all the mass shootings of the last 20 years combined.

a reply to: stormcell

NY and Cali don't care about that.

There have been more people killed by ignorant gangbangers on the streets

And guess why they have guns?? Because the legal gun trade has filled America with so many guns that they're relatively cheap. Gangsters don't have grenades and flamethrowers because there's no legal trade in them. Without guns being legal it would eventually be too expensive for gangbangers to buy them.

a reply to: CB328

Except flamethrowers are legal to own in 48 states. Only California and Maryland have restrictions on private ownership.

So here's a list of top organizational donors:

www.opensecrets.org...

And here's the last 18 years of NRA contributions:

www.opensecrets.org...

Wow, yeah. The NRA has a lot of lobbying power with those dollars.

Responding purely to bookmark this, some leftists can't help themselves with crowing about a state govt targeting an organization to try and drive them into bankruptcy.

So these same leftists must be OK with the whackadoo right trying to defund planned parenthood right?

The hypocrisy is astounding..