Buzz Aldrin admits they did not go to moon?

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
Which videos are you wittering on about? The only videos with stars are those with long exposures taken on the ISS or space shuttle.

There are no photos or videos showing stars "in detail".

What do you believe is shown in all those videos of stars, taken by different people, then?

Do you realize how many different people have taken videos of stars like that? Are you aware anyone on Earth with such a camera can film these stars at any time, as well?

You live in a fantasy world, where only NASA can show what stars really look like - tiny lights in the distance!

What a joke!

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
Which videos are you wittering on about? The only videos with stars are those with long exposures taken on the ISS or space shuttle.

There are no photos or videos showing stars "in detail".

What do you believe is shown in all those videos of stars, taken by different people, then?

Do you realize how many different people have taken videos of stars like that? Are you aware anyone on Earth with such a camera can film these stars at any time, as well?

You live in a fantasy world, where only NASA can show what stars really look like - tiny lights in the distance!

What a joke!

Nope.

You said this:

The videos show stars in detail, which proves they are liars, because stars cannot be light years away when we see them in such details, with our own eyes.

Where are these videos showing details of stars? I notice you haven't produced any.

You also seem to be getting confused, because your first post says that these videos show stars in detail so they must be fake, then you say that there are lots of them and imply they are genuine. Make your mind up. Which is it? If you are talking about video footage with lots of stars in them that's a very different thing, and perhaps you need to think more carefully about your choice of words. Or maybe nor using any at all.

There are many videos showing stars taken on the ground and from orbit using specific techniques and equipment, there are no videos with details of those stars. Apollo missions took no 16mm footage of stars, or TV footage of stars, but they did photograph them.

I look forward to you providing evidence that they did not photograph stars and that those images do not show planets in the correct position for when they were taken.

I've shown you the videos of stars, as you know.

Search for 'close up stars by Nikon p1000/p900', and see for yourself.

Anyone can see the stars like that, with those same cameras, to confirm it as true.

a reply to: turbonium1

But you said that videos showing details of stars means they are lying?

Are you lying?

You've got so used to knee-jerk contrarianism you can't even remember what your point was any more.

You can not see details of stars in astronomical photos. You can see stars. There's a difference.

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
a reply to: turbonium1

But you said that videos showing details of stars means they are lying?

Are you lying?

You've got so used to knee-jerk contrarianism you can't even remember what your point was any more.

You can not see details of stars in astronomical photos. You can see stars. There's a difference.

You can see stars for yourself, with the same cameras, if you don't believe them, so go right ahead, or stop accusing people of lying, in your ignorance, and blind faith in 'experts who speak all truth'!!

Everyone can prove it for themselves, that's the reality here. The fantasy has been ripped to shreds, forever.

a reply to: turbonium1

Again, I need to remind you that you said this:

The videos show stars in detail, which proves they are liars, because stars cannot be light years away when we see them in such details, with our own eyes.

So maybe you should not accuse people of lying in your blind ignorance. I know you can see stars, I know you can see them in space, I know that you can photograph them in space, I know that Apollo astronauts photographed them in space.

You are the one getting so tangled up in your own paranoid mythology that you can't remember what you're accusing people of. Get your facts straight, get your argument straight, try and remember just wtf your point is.

While you run around chasing your tail we're all still waiting for that evidence I've been repeatedly asking you for for quite some time now. Be a good way of changing the subject and pretending your previous few posts never happened right?

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
a reply to: turbonium1

Again, I need to remind you that you said this:

The videos show stars in detail, which proves they are liars, because stars cannot be light years away when we see them in such details, with our own eyes.

So maybe you should not accuse people of lying in your blind ignorance. I know you can see stars, I know you can see them in space, I know that you can photograph them in space, I know that Apollo astronauts photographed them in space.

You are the one getting so tangled up in your own paranoid mythology that you can't remember what you're accusing people of. Get your facts straight, get your argument straight, try and remember just wtf your point is.

While you run around chasing your tail we're all still waiting for that evidence I've been repeatedly asking you for for quite some time now. Be a good way of changing the subject and pretending your previous few posts never happened right?

You don't get it.

I said the liars are those who claim stars CANNOT be seen in detail, because they ARE seen in detail, from Earth. They also claim stars are light years away, which is also a lie, because we could not see stars in detail if they were light years away. And we DO see them in detail, which proves they are NOT light years away.

Those lies are now proven beyond a doubt, and trying to twist my words won't help your case.

a reply to: CosmicAwakening

I'd be more interested in asking the question 'Why do they call you 'Buzz'?

I'm semi hoping there's a Tenatiously green answer to this long sought after be-wonderment.

Each astronaut on the Apollo mission released over 100 million Joules of heat.
How did the space capsule remove the heat?
All they gave us 5 YO's was soup.

a reply to: Slichter

Aliens.

Damon T. Berry.

Ding ding red alert, someone knows!

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
a reply to: turbonium1

Again, I need to remind you that you said this:

The videos show stars in detail, which proves they are liars, because stars cannot be light years away when we see them in such details, with our own eyes.

So maybe you should not accuse people of lying in your blind ignorance. I know you can see stars, I know you can see them in space, I know that you can photograph them in space, I know that Apollo astronauts photographed them in space.

You are the one getting so tangled up in your own paranoid mythology that you can't remember what you're accusing people of. Get your facts straight, get your argument straight, try and remember just wtf your point is.

While you run around chasing your tail we're all still waiting for that evidence I've been repeatedly asking you for for quite some time now. Be a good way of changing the subject and pretending your previous few posts never happened right?

You don't get it.

I said the liars are those who claim stars CANNOT be seen in detail, because they ARE seen in detail, from Earth. They also claim stars are light years away, which is also a lie, because we could not see stars in detail if they were light years away. And we DO see them in detail, which proves they are NOT light years away.

Those lies are now proven beyond a doubt, and trying to twist my words won't help your case.

I didn't twist your words, I quote them exactly. You then contradicted yourself.

I'll repeat what I said again, and if you disagree then you can feel free to provide, along with all the other actual evidence I've asked you for, proof that you can see stars in detail. You can see stars. You can't see details of stars. the only details you can see of a star are those on the surface of the sun. Prove me wrong. Stars can be proven to be light years away. Prove that wrong as well.

originally posted by: Artemis12
a reply to: CosmicAwakening

I'd be more interested in asking the question 'Why do they call you 'Buzz'?

I'm semi hoping there's a Tenatiously green answer to this long sought after be-wonderment.

His little sister mispronounced 'brother' as 'buzzer'. Buzz stuck, and he later legally changed his name (and probably registered it as a trademark as well).

originally posted by: Slichter
Each astronaut on the Apollo mission released over 100 million Joules of heat.
How did the space capsule remove the heat?
All they gave us 5 YO's was soup.

Glycol based heat exchangers.

www.hq.nasa.gov...

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

Well, that's a lot more wholesome that what I was thinking it was.

a reply to: turbonium1

What stellar details are you talking about?

Other than magnitude, no you can not. Outside of our own star, Sol, they are much too far away for anything like any sort of detail.

Please, post some proof otherwise. Of course, there's no proof to be posted, so you're safe in claiming hoax...

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

The water vapour was led to space through a duct called the steam duct.

Which means the coolant was abandoned in space as a super heated steam(for efficiency sake).
I've got no trouble with the rest of the thermodynamic calculation.
Did you do the math? LOL

a reply to: turbonium1

You can see stars for yourself, with the same cameras, if you don't believe them, so go right ahead, or stop accusing people of lying, in your ignorance, and blind faith in 'experts who speak all truth'!!

do you do this purposely? misinterpret what asked and claim things others are supposedly doing when you are the only one doing so?

The only person accusing others of lying is you. you do so in numerous posts.


OneBigMonkey asked if you were lying, they didn't accuse you of lying like you have accused many others.

a reply to: Artemis12

I think the Apollo program was great entertainment for the public and it made funding our satellite program much easier.
Stars cool themselves by radiating energy, (a red dwarf can live 10 trillion years).

Primates require an environment with a very limited range of temperature to survive, that would have meant an incredibly inefficient cooling system would have been necessary had Apollo actually sent astronauts to the moon. A thermal audit would reveal the "truth" (if you were a technical person).

www.tak2000.com...

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: turbonium1

What stellar details are you talking about?

Other than magnitude, no you can not. Outside of our own star, Sol, they are much too far away for anything like any sort of detail.

Please, post some proof otherwise. Of course, there's no proof to be posted, so you're safe in claiming hoax...

Describe what you see in those videos, then...

a reply to: turbonium1

Videos with stars in them.

You'd actually need to take a radical step and provide the video about which you think you're talking, but I guarantee that's all you have: videos with stars in them.