UNidentified Contacts - What is happening in Italy?

a reply to: humanoidlord

Indeed I do. I am not as close to them to get ALL the data they have, but I can talk to their leaders and negotiate. The point is that my interest to let these things out is THEIR interest too, that's why I am on an easy slope...but of course only to a point. I know they are being very, very cautious not because they believe the whole thing is staged, but because they are protecting their source and material against infiltration and disinformation. Which can happen any time now that they opened this box...

a reply to: humanoidlord

Yes, ANYTHING can be staged and be fake, I can't dispute that. TXP guys said that on the conference, that the main point in their investigation is NOT to prove that one picture is more real than another, or to debunk debunkers, but rather, to put all data in perspective within the local community where the phenomena are happening.

What are the odds that an entire valley agreed to fake the sightings and the photographs? And what are the odds for them to do that if their economy is dying (I've seen it myself) and they ARE NOT USING this to promote their business, like the motels and restaurants along the E.T. Highway did?

Those are the questions TXP began with, and I like their approach. Sorry for not sounding so objective, but I would like to share what I know to see if somehow makes sense to you guys as well

a reply to: Bmused7

Bmused7, I appreciate your just concern but in my opinion everyone can share his/her own idea. Yes Humanlord is a bit skeptical but to me he doesn't sound completely blind. Maybe that's his/her way to deal with such sensitive phenomena...

I usually have a skeptical approach myself, but in this case I am so convinced the phenomena are real because I have direct knowledge about the guys who stepped up to share this with the world...while the previous researchers wanted to keep everything private like a secret that only they had the right to muster.

NO! These things must be shared, even if 99% of you are skeptical or think it's laughable (I know it's not the case in this thread), that 1% can help me understand more.

So, thanks for EVERYONE to reply here, EVERYONE is welcome as long as your opinion is polite and respectful

a reply to: penroc3

It's coming...I have to hold off until it's published but MAYBE...

a reply to: Caver78

Hi Caver 78,

Thanks for posting here. Let me make some remarks, though.

I feel I can speak for TXP Group more than Nexus, the former I am in direct contact, the latter I am through TXP only.
Diego Antolini spoke about Exointegration because they DO HAVE evidence that Valmalenco is that case. The photos they released on their website is only a tiny portion of what they have, but because they are (I quote Antolini verbatim) "World Shattering" they need time to sort it out, analyze and....figure out how to release them smoothly.

About the blog you posted, that was before TXP and Nexus came into the picture. The guy managing the blog was given INITIALLY true evidence, but then the source stopped feeding and the blog would have died out...so the blogger managed to keep it going no matter what...and that's why you can see a melting pot of everything, impossible to discern the real from the fake unless you get to see the real stuff. I only saw a portion of it, but I can tell you they have about 70 GB of material to sort out, that's what I am told.

The last link you posted HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE X-PLAN's investigation. They started it in 2016, then they invited NEXUS's director Tom Bosco to join them, and that's it. No other researchers are involved in TXP investigation, and my source is just TXP Group.

About the ORBS, it gets really complicated in Valmalenco because of how they appear, when, and linked to what.
I agree with you, it was never proven that ORBS are not from Earth, same as the Crop Circles. They could be how our Planet communicates under PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCES. But if you know how to use that energy, you can use it as a communication means. That's what some entities might be doing...

Hope I could clarify some...on the rest, I am working to provide more data

a reply to: humanoidlord

Agreed on two out of four...sorry but I can't put all four link under the same level

a reply to: Caver78

This is the reason why I opened this thread, to let English-speaking people know about what's going on.
I am translating part of TXP's last conference in Sondrio, the biggest city before the Valmalenco. The conference was held on July 26 and Diego Antolini, one of TXP's leaders, gave a remarkable speech about what the deal could be over there.

The X-Plan Group has several audio and video recordings of local witnesses speaking about the phenomena, along with other material. I am talking to them to convince them to release part of that on their channel, but for now they said no, because of their concern to protect the identity of the people...but I keep pushing

a reply to: Encia22

You're welcome, it may take a while as it was 3 hours conference, but I am doing my best to grab the most concrete and meaningful parts.

Hello everyone,

A quick update. Last Saturday the local newspaper published two photographs about several local people sighting unidentified crafts in the sky over Valmalenco. I could post the newspaper scanned copy directly but since I was given the real photos (and the authorization to release) I will post them here.

Not to cloud your sound judgment but I feel obliged to give you what TXP and NEXUS believe about the triangle-shaped objects you are seen here (and later on when I will post more): These are of human origin, coming from a reverse engineering in the first generation but now totally military technology. In these pics you can't see their propulsion, but in the one I will post after NEXUS magazine is out you can see better.

Anyway all your opinions are welcomed. These are the pics:



(This pic I was able to upload the original size as I got it)

The mountain peak you see is called PIZZO SCALINO, it has a pyramid-shape and for what I have heard it is believed there is a base underneath, although the bigger base is across the border, in the Swiss Alpes, under the Bernina Range. On the latter mountain at the beginning of the XX century a tragedy occurred involving about 40 men who disappeared without a trace during a training. The Italian Gov has yet to give an explanation to that... but I don't have all details, I'll see if I can get something more...

Second pics is a small village called Lanzada (the original is 2.33Mb but for some reason ATS didn't let me upload it so I had to reduce it)



P.S.: The newspaper's scanned copy will be posted tomorrow into TXP website, I think...

Cheers

a reply to: humanoidlord

the triangle photos all look super fake and not like what i have seen other then ONE that kind of looks legit and that might be because i can't see the picture very well and outside their website.

im not going to say what one looks good because i don't want to inspire more fakes. but it sounds like you picked one out as well i'd be interested to hear what you think is the good one. ill pm that.

a reply to: WilliamWAS

those images being a example...

a reply to: WilliamWAS

i am pretty sure posting veiled propaganda of a UFO group/cult here is bannable, and even if it isn't its very discouraged

a reply to: WilliamWAS

i don't think its the entire valley, that is just silly, but a little group of people including some plants in those groups you have a connection with

a reply to: WilliamWAS

nope, already in the blog i have seen it

a reply to: WilliamWAS

there are very obvious similarities between the pictures in the blog you claim are fake and the ones you claim are real, both were made by the same method and the inserted UFOs have different resolutions
also orbs are just dust

a reply to: WilliamWAS

interesting enough the groups you dont support are coincidentally the ones that are publishing some very funny evidence

a reply to: WilliamWAS
first photo is a very bad attempt at putting a hand drawn UFO in, very unconvincing
the second uses the copy paste technique that i have already talked in past posts

a reply to: penroc3

no one of them, they all look like bad photoshops i have seen in the past.
as for the bad UFO photo, its one of my first posts in this thread, right after william (accidentally?) published a link to the aliene prezence website

Hello there!

A quick updates on the triangle-shaped crafts. I could finally speak with Tom Bosco today through TXP Group and it was a very interesting conversation. Tom confirmed he is going to publish Nexus New Times (Italian edition) featuring his article on the Military Secret Technology behind the Triangles. He confirmed that he was brought into the Valmalenco investigation by The X-Plan Group, and also radically detached from any other pseudo-groups that published the pictures you can find around when searching the Valmalenco sightings. These groups started to receive some pictures in 2013 after a certain event who had scores of witnesses. I will post the picture here, then I will tell you the story if anyone wants to know.

Long story short, the only two researchers that are interested to understand and inform about the Valmalenco incidents to an international audience are Diego Antolini (TXP) and Tom Bosco (Nexus). From 2013 until 2017 none of the previous groups bothered to even trying to go beyond the simple publishing of images, which I understand is also the obsession for some of you

I have invited both researchers to show up to this thread and bring their first-hand experience on the table. Tom seems interested, let's see.

This images caused a ripple effect to what happened in the following years and still happening.


The images I am posting here - except the Dark Watcher, the blue craft and the Tracks, of which TXP is the prime source, were given to the blogger in 2013/2014 so it's not new. Some "experts" debunked it, and I know TXP met with the author of the picture, who has OTHER pictures that he hasn't released yet.

And this is what happened in the last couple of weeks:

In this article the Italian DoD was asked by the Italian Parliament to explain about the sightings, and the DoD said it was a Tornado (sic).

And here:

The local newspaper of the Valmalenco reporting the accounts of various witnesses who saw unconventional triangle-shaped crafts flying silently at low altitude.

Anyway if I ever get authorized to releasing the "good stuff" I was told TXP has collected, it will be only if there is an interest in this thread to see. And I am not talking about Objects in the sky...

Cheers

a reply to: WilliamWAS

again, the pictures sent to the blog were made by the same hoaxer, as the official ones you claim, the similarities between them are uncanny
also what "good stuff"?