Trans rights activists turning on feminists

a reply to: loam

Maybe public restrooms should be single stall rooms like many places in Europe.

Naaaah, that'd be too easy. This utter and complete stupidity grows more irksome by the day. IMHO, it's a completely contrived controversy, by both sides--or all sides--are there still only two sides??

I don't care. Nor do I care which bathroom they use. Any kids in my life are escorted into any public bathroom. So that's a non-issue for me. After that? It matters nought to me.

a reply to: Trueman

Thats a kilt
Know why it is called a kilt ?
Cause they "kilt" the last man wot called it a "skeert"

a reply to: Oaktree

Since men can have babies now and doctors aren't supposed to make any assumptions in how they render treatment (this was probably why Obamacare made men pay for maternity care and women pay for prostate exams), it's hard to see what difference having that biological category makes anymore.

Bio-boys compete as girls in sports because that's what they say they identify as - women.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Oaktree

Since men can have babies now and doctors

Um, huh?

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Men (transition -ed -ing [?] women) can have babies now.

I think Organic people should have protections.

Ya know heirloom people.

a reply to: ketsuko

A classic scene of "who wants to go first, I mean REALLY? ".

a reply to: neo96

Heirloom people.

I'm going to steal that. Most awesome description.

originally posted by: trollz
Proposed changes to the Gender Recognition Act (GRA) which would make transitioning from one gender to another easier have put feminist groups at odds with transgender rights organizations

Trans rights campaigners want to make that process less difficult by introducing the concept of ‘self-identification’

Despair not, though - I think I may just have a solution to this entire mess, albeit perhaps particularly radical and maybe even a bit extreme:
If you're born a biological male, you're a male. If you're born a biological female, you're a female.

Well it has served us well since the beginning of time?

However two Items from last weeks papers.......


1) Transgender female in a female prison because they identified as a woman

assaulted four women.


2) A Doctor worked in the NHS hospital for years decided he wanted a change

of employment and applied to the DWP to be a doctor for the department to

assess whether people who claimed they were unfit to work really were unfit

to work. Long story short he was asked his views on gender, being a medical man

he said there were only two legitimate genders...... At that stage he became (In

spite of his medical qualifications) unemployable.

a reply to: trollz

I generally loath feminist but in this case, they are right.

Yes, I actually admitted the feminist view on this issue is right!

It's funny how it's always the uhh trans 'women'?? Uh...well the ones that started as men...that complain about this #...I don't think I've ever seen anything about the ones who used to be women complaining about bathrooms and such....actually for the most part...you don't really seem to hear a whole lot about them almost as though rather than bring attention to the fact that they're trans and need special # they just quietly live their lives as men and nobody #ing realizes which I always thought was kinda the whole point of the whole trans rights #....I mean all they do is complain about wanting to be treated normally, yet instead of acting reasonably and just ya know living their lives they constantly bring attention to the fact they're different.

Actually, #ing anyone that complains about wanting to be treated normally while demanding everyone recognize they're special needs to shut the # up. If you're special you're not normal and if you're normal you're not special. You can't have both. Either you shut the # up and stop asking for attention or stop acting like you want to be treated normally. Normally, people don't ask the whole #ing world to cater to them. If that's what you want, then you don't want to be treated normally you want to be treated like your special.


I may be wrong but this whole wanting to go everywhere and do everything the opposite gender does crap seems fairly limited to uh ex-men...which kinda says a lot about the reasoning behind why they want it..

originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: trollz

Not to detract, but something jumped out at me immediately.
Actual issue aside, I find it hilarious that despite feminists claiming they're strong, self-sufficient, fear nothing, are just as good & capable as men and not weak and all that jazz, they just admitted they actually are weak & fear something in the presence of mixed company.

And that, folks, is how you know their "cause" is s#.

Only because much of what frightens women -- the overt threats and acts of violence by trans activists -- is being glossed over...

"I don't like being on a stairwell where I'm frightened that I'm going to be pushed down by a man in a balaclava and a mask, who's telling me that he is a woman and that if I don't accept that, I'm a Nazi - it's extremely frightening," she added.

The above was from the linked article, and there are countless examples of both threatened and committed acts of violence all over the internet by trans activists against feminist activists in specific, and women in general.

And I will say again, we are not doing anyone any favors by pretending all transgender persons are "equal" (for want of a better word). There is a violent and ugly side to the issue of gender dysphoria that is being glossed over. And for those people, transitioning is NOT the appropriate answer to their problems. Sometimes what people want most is the absolute last thing they need.

People are want to attack women is not going to go through the process of being able to claim he is a woman any more than a criminal is going to hand over his gun for confiscation......
Bad people will do bad things no matter what any law says.

I blame all those cartoons we had in the 80's telling us we could all be what we want to be.
Sadly some people took it too literally while the rest of us took it as intended that we could be an astronaut or a doctor etc.

I wonder what the next thing is going to be on the next episode of "Sick Sad World"

My monies on making it legal to marry and have sex with your dog, because wagging your tail is a clear sign of consent.
That or sea mammals should have the right to access netflix.

I miss the days when we tried to treat and cure mental illness, not encourage it or even adopt it as a fad.
Oh look being a bisexual attack chopper is cool this month. I'll have to give that a try because my do-gooder school counselor said it's normal and I'll be intolerant if I don't at least try it once.

Now excuse me I have to go have sex with a man in a dress because despite not wanting to, I'll be a racist, bigoted, homphobe, evil Nazi if I don't. And his... I mean her.... feelings and way of living are more important than mine.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Who knew that men could bully around women so long as they were in drag?

That's more-or-less what has happened in a number of cases, where for example a large burly person who self-identifies as female (or so they claim, at least) enters the women's restroom or women's locker room and intimidates the women inside.

This is actually a major issue for the Olympics and similar sports competitions. The reason there are separate men's and women's events for most sports is because men are generally more muscular than women, and will have an advantage in most athletic events. (Gymnastics is a notable exception, where women have a significant advantage over men because they are typically smaller and lighter.) A transgender woman who competes against biological women will have an advantage in most situations, and there have been transgender people attempting to take advantage of this.

MMM Cannibalism.

Not the first time one hears of these "micro-clashes" within the left, and often acted out quite physically at lgbt Pride parades recently.

However it mainly concerns "women" and female identity.
There are opposing groups on whether transvestites should be marching at all as "faux women", and lately whether male-to-female transgenders should march as cisgender, or biological women.
And beyond that huge clashes on language - is it "transphobic" for a biologically-born woman to say she gave birth because she is a woman?

But strangely, I've never seen major clashes on female-to-male transgendered people, and the men's movement, for example.

It also gets half the exposure in the press.

Although many academics speak of a "crisis in masculinity", by all visible evidence it is femininity that is in crisis.
Masculinity is only in crisis as far as it's withdrawing, as in no thanks, I want nothing to do with your gender circus.
Here's R30 airtime, call me when it's over.

There have always been fights with TERF'S (Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists) and Trans people

But do these gender politics only affect homosexuals?

So many men forced to become dependents, and so many women forced to become bread-winners.
Not roles either genders of my generation were raised for.

And now there's the young male "sexodus".
Apparently they no longer want to be near women.

All of that social disruption was politically crafted.
It is no "accident".

But, perhaps the religious young earth creationists were right - from Genesis to Sexodus in 5 000 years!

Similarly we haven't seen any prizes for a biologically born woman becoming a significant "man" of the year.

Could I think of a biologically born man who became a woman of the year?
Sure, Caitlyn Jenner.

But is that due to misogyny or misandry?

Is it because "non-binary" actually is newspeak for focusing only on femininity?

Or is it because men have truly out-womanned women from womynhood?