UNHOLY ALLIANCE: Did US Intelligence Agencies Collude With Clinton To Influence The 2016 Election?

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

So ... why do so many here keep playing defense for the President then, Texan?

The President is not under investigation directly. This has been said time and time again. Yet, so many are still mindlessly babbling about treason and now a military coup against the Constitution!!!

If Manafort and the rest are criminals (and they are proven criminals) then why are the "law and order" crowd so anxious to excuse them and endorse RUSSIAN AGENTS???

Surely you're not blinded by this garbage too, are you?

Okay, well, then, the “resistance” and media need to stop suggesting otherwise all of the time.

Stop pretending as if the narrative is how you are framing it.

Take some responsibility for your own beliefs and perceptions. You and others here know that the media are LIARS all media all the time.

Don't whine and pule up that excuse. There are people talking about a military coup here and that IS TREASON. It's time to start telling the hard, blatant truth and stop with this garbage.

The President is not under investigation, but Russia as a foreign power has ATTACKED us and at least a few of his campaign officers were WORKING WITH RUSSIA.

This is not even in question. Stop defending the enemies of the United States.

originally posted by: 0311Warrior
a reply to: vinifalou

From what I’ve been told the Tribunals will happen. This level of treason can’t be dismantled via civilian measures. Too corrupted. It’s gonna rock people’s world. Needs to happen correctly though or people will freak out hard.

"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and their freedoms."
-Starship Troopers

Yes, military tribunal. It is too corrupt to let it get tangled up and bogged down in the popular opinion polls that every filthy News Agency purports. Too corrupt for a high scale lawyer to try and misdirect at every chance.

Let it be held out of sight with nothing but speculation and make it swift.

a reply to: wdkirk

You're advocating that we abandon the rule of law and suspend the Constitution.

Shame on you. The only traitors here are folks who think and speak as you have here.

The ducks will be served in GITMO.
a reply to: pheonix358

Ducks are being lined up...

Demonstrate a widespread conspiracy by the Russian government.

Secondly, you are coming across as pretty stupid with this idea that I fit into your little dualistic world of either I’m with the DNC or I’m with Russia.

My noting that you guys and the media ARE constantly trying to assign guilt to Trump and create manufactured hysteria, is simply stating the truth.


a reply to: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: wdkirk

You're advocating that we abandon the rule of law and suspend the Constitution.

Shame on you. The only traitors here are folks who think and speak as you have here.

Can you please show where you have called some leftists traitors for also calling for civil war, violence, and dropping the constitution?

a reply to: soberbacchus

Welll....as a start, McCabe was referred for criminal prosecution.

a reply to: pheonix358

...and you see no issue with the military getting involved in politics? Really?

a reply to: wdkirk

What that phrase neglected to add was, for every problem solved, it creates at least one more. Or haven't you been watching?

originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: 727Sky

WHO YOU GONNA CALL?

These guys.

The Marines. Directly controlled by the President. No roadblocks.

P

Not on Domestic soil... Posse Comitatus Act.

originally posted by: wdkirk

originally posted by: 0311Warrior
a reply to: vinifalou

From what I’ve been told the Tribunals will happen. This level of treason can’t be dismantled via civilian measures. Too corrupted. It’s gonna rock people’s world. Needs to happen correctly though or people will freak out hard.

"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and their freedoms."
-Starship Troopers

Ironic that you would quote the words of Robert Heinlein, a Liberal. Also ironic is that the Novel Starship Troopers was based upon, was essentially an indictment/condemnation of Stratocracy, a Government ruled by the military elite where only those who have served are allowed to be citizens. This is what happens when people use quotes out of context and no clear understanding of the work it was taken from.

Yes, military tribunal. It is too corrupt to let it get tangled up and bogged down in the popular opinion polls that every filthy News Agency purports. Too corrupt for a high scale lawyer to try and misdirect at every chance.

So... just # the Constitution? You sound like a traitor.

Let it be held out of sight with nothing but speculation and make it swift.

Definitely a traitor...

Did US Intelligence Agencies Collude With Clinton To Influence The 2016 Election?

CIA? Yes! NSA? NO comment!

a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

It's pointless to argue with a "partisan non-partisan" such as yourself.

A few small points though. I didn't say that you had to choose Russia or the DNC so that's either a lie or delusion. You're so far gone into this media-driven traitorous nonsense you don't seem to be able to parse reality any longer. Further, I'm many things, but stupid isn't one of them. Such a silly statement further invalidates your claim.

You have called for the rule-of-law to be suspended and for a military coup to take place in the United States. You're on the record now, and people will remember that from you and your seditious compatriots.

a reply to: Gryphon66

You have called for the rule-of-law to be suspended and for a military coup to take place in the United States. You're on the record now, and people will remember that from you and your seditious compatriots.

Yep. Sending the Marines to arrest "the guilty" does seem a bit...hmmm...un-Constitutional. Smacks of coup to me, or Imperial Rome with the Marines playing the roll of the Praetorian Guard. ...and secret Tribunals? Really? Give 'em a fair trial, and hang 'em. No other options to be considered...like innocence.

YOU'RE GUILTY, BECAUSE WE SAY YOU ARE!! Take your appeal up with Madame Guillotine.

All well and good, until the Praetorians decide that maybe they should decide who the rulers should be. Oops.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: DJW001

Absolutely nothing done by the president has been anything close to creating a Presidential State. That is a propaganda term used by liberals. He is keeping his campaign promises, which is why we elected him.

He has expanded ICE and is using it as a terror weapon, separating innocent children from their parents. He fires officials who do not swear loyalty to him personally. He constantly attacks and undermines the First Amendment. He calls everyone who does not worship him "traitors." Now he can appoint a Supreme Court judge who will rule in his favor when Mueller makes his investigation public.

Wow. Using ICE to enforce our laws against people entering our country illegally is terrorism? He fires people that aren't loyal to him? Well, would you hire people that were against you? Last I knew, a President can appoint a Supreme Court Judge when there is an opening, it's not something new, Presidents have been doing that for years. His attacks against fake news, I fine amusing and refreshing to see someone not kissing media rear.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Gryphon66

You have called for the rule-of-law to be suspended and for a military coup to take place in the United States. You're on the record now, and people will remember that from you and your seditious compatriots.

Yep. Sending the Marines to arrest "the guilty" does seem a bit...hmmm...un-Constitutional. Smacks of coup to me, or Imperial Rome with the Marines playing the roll of the Praetorian Guard. ...and secret Tribunals? Really? Give 'em a fair trial, and hang 'em. No other options to be considered...like innocence.

YOU'RE GUILTY, BECAUSE WE SAY YOU ARE!! Take your appeal up with Madame Guillotine.

All well and good, until the Praetorians decide that maybe they should decide who the rulers should be. Oops.

Sometimes like in Germany after WW2 it is all there is left for the people to receive justice. Both for the victims and the perps.

Are you thinking the guilty are able to have other guilty people protect them and they watch out for each other so they all don't "hang if DJT wins" as HRC was rumored to say? I am thinking that is provable but only in a Tribunal. Why, because they have something on each of their useful tools at locations all over the gov an probably those people being used are in very high levels of our gov?

a reply to: Justoneman

So, to protect the nation, you'll destroy its built in institutions?

To save the village, we had to burn the village. That's the thinking going on here. To beat them, become them. Yeah, that'll work, replace the bad 'uns with...more bad 'uns.

Secret tribunals. Military raids. Doesn't that remind you of the Terror in France in the 19th century? Remember what they got when it all settled out? Napoleon, and that wonder chest of hilarity.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: soberbacchus

Welll....as a start, McCabe was referred for criminal prosecution.

The IG asked the Justice Department if McCabe should be charged with anything.
The Justice Department decided no.

Weak nonsense.

Go anything real to support your post?

the crimes I know have happened and that we have evidence of: Strzok, Page, the FBI, the DOG, and potentially the CIA.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Gryphon66

You have called for the rule-of-law to be suspended and for a military coup to take place in the United States. You're on the record now, and people will remember that from you and your seditious compatriots.

Yep. Sending the Marines to arrest "the guilty" does seem a bit...hmmm...un-Constitutional. Smacks of coup to me, or Imperial Rome with the Marines playing the roll of the Praetorian Guard. ...and secret Tribunals? Really? Give 'em a fair trial, and hang 'em. No other options to be considered...like innocence.

YOU'RE GUILTY, BECAUSE WE SAY YOU ARE!! Take your appeal up with Madame Guillotine.

All well and good, until the Praetorians decide that maybe they should decide who the rulers should be. Oops.

Trump stood before the world and groveled before Vladimir Putin today while insulting my country and choosing Putin's word over his own intelligence agencies.

He is unfit to run a McDonalds, let alone be President.

He is a traitor at heart and we will soon know what the facts are.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Justoneman

So, to protect the nation, you'll destroy its built in institutions?

To save the village, we had to burn the village. That's the thinking going on here. To beat them, become them. Yeah, that'll work, replace the bad 'uns with...more bad 'uns.

Secret tribunals. Military raids. Doesn't that remind you of the Terror in France in the 19th century? Remember what they got when it all settled out? Napoleon, and that wonder chest of hilarity.

Just what was left of Germany at that point? IDK

I do see the commie fascist left destroying us for power. AND they appear set to give us over to the UN. That sounds like treason but is hearsay , for now.
ETA
We do have something strange going on where the HRC gets a pass without investigations beginning and DJT gets a set up.