First look: Dems crush GOP in party registration

originally posted by: CB328
I don't see how Trump can get re-elected, what independent or undecided voters are going to support him after being the biggest ass in the universe?

because trump overall is the same person and same talker now as he was during the election.

the claims like yours were THE VERY SAME (along with multiple variations thereof ) all thought the election.

Your claim was REPEATED over and over by the main stream press .

It DIDNT INFLUENCE OR WORK the last time.

so instead of trying to win people over with policy they want you continue the same tactics, words, claims, ect and somehow expect a different outcome .

In short your following the standard propaganda tactic

say the same thing, lie, ect over and over and it will become the truth / win people over.

tell me how that tactic and comment working out for you ?

who won again when you used it the first time

Scrounger

lol, democrats don't get it, they are only doing better because more people than ever are registering as independent, they need to look closer if they still think it's republican vs democrat. i'm pretty sure third parties are about to push the two party paradigm on it's head thanks to people switching to independent.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Gryphon66

Growing perhaps. Leading no.
Independent votes cast just serve as votes against a major party candidate.
I doubt you will ever see an independent in the whitehouse.
The only reason for any party registration is so the party knows who to ask for donations.

I beg some here forgiveness for a little topic drift but your comment contains a kernel of reality that many wanting independent in office (be president, senator, congressman , or local politician) is this.

Hate trump or like him he has shown that an independent of some type CAN WIN if the people like their message AND they are willing to fight for it.

Look trump was HATED by the left, the democrats, the establishment republicans and the main steam media all around.
the democrats along with the main stream media threw everything from lie, half truths and the kitchen sink against him
the main stream republicans and leadership tried everything fair and unfair in debates and lots of attempts/threats at the convention.

the delegates at the convention who were voted on for trump got him the nomination in spades.

the election with everything against him HE WON.

he is as close (by all the hate and those in leadership both against and IN HIS PARTY HE RAN UNDER) to an independent as we have had since ross perot.

again you many not like the man and thats fair.

but he did show that if AND ONLY IF one has a message the VOTERS IN MASS want and WILLING TO FIGHT for it ...one can win.

Scrounger

I would like to point out an inconvenient truth about the numbers the OP is claiming.

lets say for sake of discussion the source is accurate (again ONLY for discussion).

the problem is that political affiliation outside of the dedicated is quite fluid and/or CANNOT BE TAKEN as proof of anything for a variety of factual factors.

One.... alot of states don't have open primaries.
so if you want to vote for someone you have NO CHOICE but to declare one party.
so on the record at that time your choice adds a plus to one party that is reported in overall totals.

Two... in open primaries since you dont have to commit to identifying with one party or another your party you are listed as may not reflect what you believe.
you may (for example) have as a youth registered as a democrat because your parent did (or republican for that matter) and never bothered to change it because you had no reason to go though the hassle, your lazy, forgot, or just dont care because it (outside of mailers) doesn't effect or define you.

three..... in registration drives there are actually in most states two issues. One is registering you to vote.
the second is what party you want to register as.
the two are separate
so in these "registration drives" what are they doing?
registering you to vote and/or registering you for a party.
also just for fact you are NOT BOUND by what you "registered" as that day.
you could just register as a D or an R just because how your feeling that day, for the hell of it, as a protest, or just because.

four...just because you registered with a party does not mean always your legal to vote.
I can find no hard evidence that everyone be republican, democrat, green, ect just because the are on their official roles have to be able to vote.


five ...IMO the biggest reason.. You can change your official listed choice at will.
here in IL everytime I go vote in a primary they ALWAYS ask which party I am. Let me say it again EVERY TIME you vote in a primary they ask you. So one can change their party every year and on the "official records" they appear to be supporter of D or R. Also that year they can (as this article is claiming) a "new democrat" and someone like this OP goes around claiming "hey the democrats are getting bigger and stronger".

In conclusion all this is is at best one group pulling numbers from a source and spinning it to fit their agenda.
At worst the worst kind of journalism of taking something at face value because it supports your cause and facts be damned.

in short OP and all those hanging their hats on this VERY DUBIOUS at best claim.
didnt you learn anything from the polls and "facts" from the last election

Scrounger

a reply to: Sillyolme

uhm, they are friends, and we have had numerous discussions about how the current democratic party has strayed so far from the original vision it had.

That's how I know. but hey, thanks for trying to call me a liar.

Have a nice day

a reply to: Gryphon66

I’m sure there is more to it than the 2 sentences I used to explain a complex situation, but I don’t have time to write a dissertation on American history and voting.

But if you are willing to do it, then go ahead, (almost) everything in life can be expanded on.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Not that I believe voter fraud is a real/serious issue.

but maybe they rigged the election that didn’t can’t because they could rig the big one, this happens in other situations, could be the reason.

Also maybe it is because they are running a long con, and lots of little seats can be used to get people into contact with your agenda.

I just didn’t like you tried to straw man that, so I gave a couple other alternative scenarios.

Axios is an extremely biased news site. So obviously biased that they changed their name to Axios to sound more cerebral and unbiased.

a reply to: skynet2015

Yeah just look at the founders previous employers.

Thea reply to: Krazysh0t
The poll I pay most attention to is what I hear from people I run into. And the truth is I run into FAR fewer people who feel comfortable votIng Democratic these days.if they could lose their lunatic fringe, pro globalization, anti Caucasian wing, and appear to care about more than just illegal immigrant rights and lgbt bathroom laws, it would go a long way for them.

40% of all voters in party registration states are Democrats, 29% are Republicans, and 28% are independents.

I love liberal math.

The left is outnumbered by 17% and they're gonna 'crush' it.

Any independent watching the Strzok snip show today would never vote D.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

#Walkaway is russian bots. Nothing to be worried about right? So why this thread? Oh, because you are worried.

Rather than looking at abstract numbers of registrants, have a look at the polls. The senate is basically in the bag for republicans and it looks ever more likely that republicans will gain seats there. The house my lose a few reps but will probably remain in republican control. Wait until you guys see the demographic numbers after the midterms.

EDIT: Here's a look at party identification by gallup. Dems have lost ground from the 2016 election (down to 29% from 31%) while republicans have held steady at 27% and independents have gained a few percentage points. So far, the dems have averaged 29.1% this year, in 2016 that number was 30.4%. Not exactly an encouraging trend.

NVM

I just realized this wasn't The Pit.

Carry on.

Most people walking away are not joining the republican party. They have hope that the democratic party can change. Many are even staying democrat in order to hopefully voice their displeasure should the democrats decide to put up another candidate like Hillary.

Everyone isn't suddenly Republican, their ranks aren't going to just swell. Heck I've considered registering Democrat as much of my views are closer to democrat than Republican, but if I do it's to vote against certain kinds of democratic candidates to try and help normalize the party.

I am however not going to register as Republican cause I'm not really very close to one. Even if I'd vote Trump over Hillary should it come to that again. I voted third party in the last election.

Point being more registered democrats can mean a lot of things. In some ways it would make more a point if everyone registered democrat but voted otherwise. Might tell them people want to be democrat and share many democratic views but do not approve of the direction the party is heading.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: GenerationGap

Look, thousands of dead people recently registered as democrats so the swamp can continue to subvert their own primaries!

Is this your belief or are you presenting it as fact?

If it's fact, can you prove it? If not, I say it's BS.

Oh give it up. Like the article itself provides any proof. My statement provided as much proof as the article itself.

Thats the problem with leftists these days. They demand proof from anonymous people posting on the internet... but when it comes to MSM, they accept anonymous sources, op-eds, and theatrics as gospel. Don't ask for proof from me, ask it from the Democrats.

I won't hold my breath.

Registration means nothing.

It's whether or not they a) remember the day to vote, b) get a ride to the polls from a Trump voter or Uber, or Lyft, and c) have an ID acceptable to vote (since they don't drive).

That's a lot of IFs to overcome... LOL...

(and please don't bring up vote by mail...those just now registered aren't even sure what mail is for....it's just weird delivered litter).

originally posted by: Gazrok
Registration means nothing.

It's whether or not they a) remember the day to vote, b) get a ride to the polls from a Trump voter or Uber, or Lyft, and c) have an ID acceptable to vote (since they don't drive).

That's a lot of IFs to overcome... LOL...

(and please don't bring up vote by mail...those just now registered aren't even sure what mail is for....it's just weird delivered litter).

Wow this is HIGHLY offensive in many many ways.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Gazrok
Registration means nothing.

It's whether or not they a) remember the day to vote, b) get a ride to the polls from a Trump voter or Uber, or Lyft, and c) have an ID acceptable to vote (since they don't drive).

That's a lot of IFs to overcome... LOL...

(and please don't bring up vote by mail...those just now registered aren't even sure what mail is for....it's just weird delivered litter).

Wow this is HIGHLY offensive in many many ways.

Offensive, really?


Truth is now offensive everyone, crazy said so.

I'd love to see that stats on how many people over 110 years old vote Democrat.

Article may be old but the Dems haven't learned any new tricks.

www.breitbart.com...

the election with everything against him HE WON.

Don't kid yourself.

It isn't so much that Trump WON, as it is Hillary LOST.

When it came down to a choice between the two of them, the apparent lesser of two evils won. She simply had WAY too much against her to consciously vote for her, and that's saying a LOT compared to how much crap was laid at Trump's feet.

Personally, as much as I cringe when Trump does something stupid, I STILL believe we (as a free nation) STILL dodged a major bullet from Hillary getting elected. Sadly, I believe it only delayed some of the inevitable, but hey, you have to take your victories where you can.

Then, I hear names like Pelosi, Waters, or Warren thrown out as serious DNC candidates... LOL. Seriously? There's no way they can honestly be that stupid. What game are they playing at?