Aborting Black America

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Why is it when I here Boxer, Clinton, Irland quoting Sangar they leave this one thing out? The famed American Eugenist, founding Mother of Planned Parenthood, Sangar's position is well documented.

[edit on 20-2-2005 by Reaganwasourgreatest]

Because they do not want this to be common knowledge. If these people actually came out and said they do not believe in God do you think they would have Chance at reelection? Most people are to stupid to see through them but they sure as heck do not practice what their Creator tasked them with......are they believers of faith or believers of votes?

hmmmmmmm......I'd say that most politicians, on both sides, are believers of votes....

Sic, but can man serve two masters?

Originally posted by Reaganwasourgreatest
Sic, but can man serve two masters?

A man can serve as many masters as he chooses to.

Originally posted by I_AM_that_I_AM

Originally posted by Reaganwasourgreatest
Sic, but can man serve two masters?

A man can serve as many masters as he chooses to.

Yes he can, but there will always be a conflict of interest. There will be times you have to choose. Then you will know what/who the true master is.

There is a lot of good info and discussion on Margret Sanger in the talk area of Wikipedia relating to the article on her.
en.wikipedia.org...:Margaret_Sanger

One particularly interesting gem from Chapter 10 of her book "What every girl should know".

"While there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization."

There are also several quotes from her on Eugenics which are interesting. She is classified as a socialist but I would say it smacks of communism. Forced sterilization and segregation on labor camps for the socially undesireable and "morons"???

And notice that most abortion clinics are in areas with a bigger minority population.

If you build it they will come.

The irony is, blacks typically vote Democrat, the typically pro-abortion party.

Then again, Bush is a pro-abortion Republican...just lies and says he's pro-life to get the conservative vote....

Originally posted by Amethyst
And notice that most abortion clinics are in areas with a bigger minority population.

If you build it they will come.

I'm not quite so sure if it's that simple. I think you have to consider rates of monogamy and economic factors.
If you're poor you can't get by on your own and you're more likely to shack up young. You shack up young and you're more likely to stay poor. You stay poor and you're more likely to have an abortion. Etc etc.

I think the root of the problem is far deeper than simply building the clinics in minority neighborhoods. The oppression goes quite a bit deeper than that in my view. Various groups, not limited to political parties, gain a lot of power and influence by keeping minorities poor and angry. Money, power, political influence, etc are all to be had by encouraging and promoting entitlement mentality, the illusion of hopelessness/oppression, and criminal activity, all of which are mutually reinforcing and all encourage poverty, keeping the people poor and angry where they can best be used. Abortion rates are probably a side effect more than an end unto themselves.

I hope I didn't lose anyone in that paragraph above. I'll clarify if necessary. Basically all I'm saying is that there are a lot of people who get a lot out of keeping minorities discouraged and disadvantaged, and those organizations are willing to accept the side effect of high abortion rates.

I think an interesting read for most here would be "The Marketing of Evil"



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Originally posted by Carseller4
Yes he can, but there will always be a conflict of interest. There will be times you have to choose.

Yes, and this is when the political side stepping comes in...

Didn't you know this?? This is one of their favorite dances!

Why if I did this, I could have my cake and eat it too!

Originally posted by Amethyst
And notice that most abortion clinics are in areas with a bigger minority population.
If you build it they will come.

The irony is, blacks typically vote Democrat, the typically pro-abortion party.

This is weird... Detroit was voted the most liberal city in the nation...
But the illegitimacy rate is above 80%...
Girls before the age of 24 are mother's of 3's, 5's, and 8's, sometimes even by the time they are 30 they are already grandparents...

How does this fact mesh with your perception?

I'm not a statistician but I would think white girls are more apt to have an abortion then a mexican or black.

For both of these minorities are heavily relgious, believe their lord, and think abortion is murder. As for white girls, they aren't as nearly relgious as the minorities, thus having a sense of ungodliness, and percieving abortion as ok.

I'm in a white community and there's a handful of abortion clinics.. How many people girls go there, I don't know, but if there is handful of them, they must be doing good business.

I am not sure about the sources, but feel free to check them out.

"According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, more than 43 percent of African-American pregnancies end in abortion. Although African-Americans represent only 12 percent of the American population, they account for almost 35 percent of all abortions."

Link

Statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

Since 1973, more than twice as many blacks have died from abortion than from heart disease, cancer, accidents, violent crimes and AIDS combined

Blacks make up about 12 percent of the population in the United States but account for 32 percent of the abortions

(note: pretty close to the first stat)

Women who had abortions were more likely to be young (25 years or younger), white, and unmarried

Link CDC

Originally posted by TrueLies
This is weird... Detroit was voted the most liberal city in the nation...
But the illegitimacy rate is above 80%...
Girls before the age of 24 are mother's of 3's, 5's, and 8's, sometimes even by the time they are 30 they are already grandparents...

How does this fact mesh with your perception?

I'm not a statistician but I would think white girls are more apt to have an abortion then a mexican or black.

For both of these minorities are heavily relgious, believe their lord, and think abortion is murder. As for white girls, they aren't as nearly relgious as the minorities, thus having a sense of ungodliness, and percieving abortion as ok.

I'm in a white community and there's a handful of abortion clinics.. How many people girls go there, I don't know, but if there is handful of them, they must be doing good business.

Interestingly enough, I'm a conservative who was born and raised in the Detroit area.

I know that here in Ohio, abortion clinics are typically in "minority" neighborhoods. I've actually looked them up in the phone book. I've been around Cleveland and Akron, so I know a bit about the neighborhoods there.

Now I just went to the Life Dynamics site (ldi.org) and they have a list of abortion clinics nationwide. There are FIVE within the city of Detroit alone, and I know for a fact that they are in mostly black areas! One on McNichols Road (Six Mile Road)...one on Seven Mile Road...one on Eight Mile Road....

Three in Southfield--another heavily black area from what I remember. (I was born in Southfield.)

When I compared them to the more well-to-do areas (like the suburbs), it confirmed it--they're mostly located in mostly-black areas. In the mostly-black areas, there's a higher concentration.

And when I looked at the entire state of Michigan, I noticed the heaviest concentration in the Detroit metro area.

Originally posted by KrazyJethro
Statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

Since 1973, more than twice as many blacks have died from abortion than from heart disease, cancer, accidents, violent crimes and AIDS combined

Blacks make up about 12 percent of the population in the United States but account for 32 percent of the abortions

(note: pretty close to the first stat)

Women who had abortions were more likely to be young (25 years or younger), white, and unmarried

Link CDC

Not seeing that first part anywhere about women dying from abortions anywhere near those numbers, but the last part sounds right from recent CDC stats I've seen.

In addition to race, other elevated factors that were noted (but much more likely contributing to that choice) were being single, young and poor too. Not to mention pregnant (obviously), but repetitively so and that last aspect rose dramatically after Bush abstinence only education measures and removing scientific sex education and planned parenthood counseling from many public schools over the last half decade from religious pressure. That means planned parenthood was actually reducing minority abortion rates with education. Plus the tax funded FBCI informational propaganda house isn't helping. Pregnancy happens when you don't know how to stop it or are told condoms cause cancer or they don't work or will earn you a place in hell. Welfare reform affected it too. If the government helps less or restricts your assistance after so many children, guess what happens? Stereotypes affect it too. If people talk about these poor this and that's having 15 youngin's on welfare voting democrat all the time, guess what happens? Not really feeling the love or reason here in this sudden plight for black america (ED&co).

Was whoever this thread is about a racist though? Probably. Many founders of things were. Like America. Whoever wrote the Old Testament too it seems. I don't let that angle get in the way about my judgement of modern issues though.

On the race thing though, making choices is a tricky subject. According to other research I've done, Sprite drinkers (though mostly white) represent a radically higher percentage of America's black population than it probably should. Is Sprite a racist organization? Maybe. It's possible they market more to African Americans, but it's also possible that ancillary research shows it's a choice that African Americans would like to have available. So there may even be more Sprite offered in a low income neighborhood that demands it than a high income one that doesn't. I don't know, I'm just saying. Stats and results don't always reflect evil intentions. Sometimes they just be.

Another thing. You know why the Sprite analogy to abortion is really applicable? They're both legal choices and there's not a damn thing wrong with either one of them.

[edit on 4-9-2005 by RANT]