Woman Shoots Man Trying To Steal Car With Her Kids Inside: Police

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Krakatoa


This story warmed my heart! Don't mess with Texas or Texans. That guy was really stupid! From what I hear, 90% of Texans carry a gun, and know how to use it. God Bless em!

That's actually kind of scary. Seeing as how CA liberals are trying to take over Texas. Hopefully it means more liberals opening their eyes and enjoying the freedom the 2A gives. That or it just means a bunch of unhinged loony libs will be carrying. I just wish every state adhered to the Constitution and would not erode our amended rights.

CA liberals are moving to Texas? They're not tough enough. Maybe that's a false rumor?

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: rollanotherone
While I like the presmise of this story, something doesn't sit well with "purchased the handgun hours earlier" and had it loaded and ready to go. I'm all for concealed carry and pro 2A, but that little addition to the story doesn't start well with me. On top of the fact she was able to draw on the assailant so easily. This story sounds too good to be true.

So, you would advocate that after you purchase something, you need to wait a specified amount of time before using it? WTH kind of childish notion is that? Please, explain this thought process to me,as I simply cannot fathom such a thing as that.

Sorry, you cannot drive that car until you wait a week/month with it sitting in your driveway....it would be suspicious otherwise.

SMFH

So I take it you're unfamiliar with gun laws. Ok. Go read up on carrying a loaded weapon concealed and get back to me.

Which laws? What state?
Perhaps my own CCW license doesn't give me an in-depth knowledge of the process according to you?

Your statement was laughable. Each state is different, or does that not compute in your mind?

Yup. Just as I thought. Read my other post where I said it varies state by state. Jesus. Keep arguing with PRO 2A people. When we fight with each other, you might as well hand your firearms over to the leftists. Just so you know, I'm on your side. People like you shouldn't own firearms. Just looking to fire off on people without taking a second to "check your backstop".

Oh, really? So sorry you got triggered. Yeah, your opinion about me is worth as much as that stuff I scraped off my shoe the other day.
Your original post question her motives. Because you cannot believe that it is OK to purchase a firearm legally, load it, and carry it with you in the car, legally, that same day? Really? And that she knew how to use it already? Ever THINK she was experienced already?

Had you CLARIFIED your position early on, there would have been no misunderstanding. After all, ensuring the line of fire is clear before YOU spout off is irrelevant, right?

SMFH...even more.

Holy Christ. No wonder the lefties on ATS hate debating you idiots. You make zero sense, make up and misconstrue what anyone says. Holy crap, I actually had to see it for myself to believe it. Ok. Yup. I'm totally saying what youre implying. There. Happy now kiddo? Jesus. Card carrying NRA member, CCW card holder, active in range time monthly, but yup. You got me pegged. Now, go ahead and cry "triggered snowflake". You make me laugh!

I see it sometimes too. I'm p!eased that the woman managed to protect her babies but the reading comprehension of some posters here is atrocious.

Sorry guys, I know your heart is in the right place but the gun is oftentimes jumped..

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Krakatoa


This story warmed my heart! Don't mess with Texas or Texans. That guy was really stupid! From what I hear, 90% of Texans carry a gun, and know how to use it. God Bless em!

That's actually kind of scary. Seeing as how CA liberals are trying to take over Texas. Hopefully it means more liberals opening their eyes and enjoying the freedom the 2A gives. That or it just means a bunch of unhinged loony libs will be carrying. I just wish every state adhered to the Constitution and would not erode our amended rights.

CA liberals are moving to Texas? They're not tough enough. Maybe that's a false rumor?

Maybe but the theory is not implausible.

a reply to: rollanotherone
Calm down. We know the laws and none were broken.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Krakatoa


This story warmed my heart! Don't mess with Texas or Texans. That guy was really stupid! From what I hear, 90% of Texans carry a gun, and know how to use it. God Bless em!

That's actually kind of scary. Seeing as how CA liberals are trying to take over Texas. Hopefully it means more liberals opening their eyes and enjoying the freedom the 2A gives. That or it just means a bunch of unhinged loony libs will be carrying. I just wish every state adhered to the Constitution and would not erode our amended rights.

CA liberals are moving to Texas? They're not tough enough. Maybe that's a false rumor?

I hope you're right. NV isn't fairing to well. Went from purple to blue in 2016.

originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: rollanotherone
Calm down. We know the laws and none were broken.

I just found the story odd, or missing details. Some video evidence would've been helpful. Personally, I don't trust the media.

a reply to: roadgravel

I think I posted my question before I got to your post.

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: rollanotherone

handgun hours earlier" and had it loaded and ready to go.

I brought my son-in-law to get his 9mm, and he had it locked and loaded before we got out of the parking lot..

It varies state by state, but what I learned from my CCW class is, unless your licensed to carry, it is a felony to carry a loaded firearm in your vehicle. And if it's concealed? Good luck explaining the lack of knowledge of the laws to the judge.
It's people like you that give lawful gun owners a bad rap. Bragging about possibly breaking laws. And you wonder why the left has a snip fit over gun ownership.

In Texas it's considered the same as your home. You can keep a loaded just about anything you want. It's not considered a concealed carry permit either.

a reply to: rollanotherone

Yeah this is something that was only recently changed--last year, maybe? It might have been the year before. I know in 2015 you still had to get a CC permit and take a safety class. Now you don't have to have either. Not sure how I feel about the no-safety-training bit, because the idea of people who are clueless about guns walking around with concealed (or openly-visible, for that matter) weapons does make me a bit nervous. However, I've never been a fan of needing special permission to carry your gun in your purse or your glovebox or whatever so I'm pleased to see that rule thrown out.

And bravo for the lady saving her kids!

originally posted by: riiver
a reply to: roadgravel

I think I posted my question before I got to your post.

No issue. Just was letting you know there was more info somewhere.

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: rollanotherone

handgun hours earlier" and had it loaded and ready to go.

I brought my son-in-law to get his 9mm, and he had it locked and loaded before we got out of the parking lot..

It varies state by state, but what I learned from my CCW class is, unless your licensed to carry, it is a felony to carry a loaded firearm in your vehicle. And if it's concealed? Good luck explaining the lack of knowledge of the laws to the judge.
It's people like you that give lawful gun owners a bad rap. Bragging about possibly breaking laws. And you wonder why the left has a snip fit over gun ownership.

Funny, because in my state it's perfectly legal to carry a loaded firearm in your vehicle without a CCW

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: rollanotherone
Calm down. We know the laws and none were broken.

I just found the story odd, or missing details. Some video evidence would've been helpful. Personally, I don't trust the media.

Yet you claim to be a ccw holder and know the rules, and couldnt be bothered to look up texas law........

Instead you poor pooed the lady and went in a tirade..,.,..

Most ccw people I know would at least look up the Laws of the state before doing so......

I'm surprised he lived after that.. Another reason Gun's should be a Human Right not a Governmental one only.

a reply to: Krakatoa

You would never know it listening to the media but there are 500,000 to 1 million defensive gun uses every year.

originally posted by: rollanotherone
It varies state by state, but what I learned from my CCW class is, unless your licensed to carry, it is a felony to carry a loaded firearm in your vehicle. And if it's concealed? Good luck explaining the lack of knowledge of the laws to the judge.
It's people like you that give lawful gun owners a bad rap. Bragging about possibly breaking laws. And you wonder why the left has a snip fit over gun ownership.

I'm sure that this has already been addressed, but I can't ignore it--you call someone out for advocating for illegal firearm useage when you yourself speak on a foundation of ignorance.

In Texas, where this occurred, state law does not require you to have any sort of license in order to have a loaded handgun in one's own vehicle, as long as it's holstered or kept out of view (like, say, in a glove compartment).

While Texas’ gun laws are quite lenient compared to most other states, there are a few details gun owners should know about carrying firearms in their vehicles. The Motorist Protection Act exists to allow vehicle owners to protect themselves from thieves, carjackers, and armed robbers while driving. Gun owners only require a valid Texas photo ID to purchase a gun in Texas, and a driver does not require a license to carry a loaded firearm in his or her vehicle. However, the driver must keep handguns either holstered on his or her person or concealed from view. As long as the driver owns the vehicle or the vehicle is under his or her control, it is legal in Texas to have a loaded firearm in the vehicle within reach.

source

See, what's happening here is that either you're too lazy to look up Texas' gun laws to see if she had the firearm legally, you just want to appear smart on the internet, or both, but you failed this time.

Next time, don't berate someone for something that you, yourself, are guilty of. There is absolutely no excuse to be ignorant about state gun laws--if you can access ATS and submit comments, you can do simple Google searches.

ETA: I have read through the thread at this point--you would do yourself well to stop telling people that they make pro-gun people look bad when it is you, yourself, attributing your own state laws to everyone in your initial comment who are making pro-gun folks look ill-informed.

Glad the woman had a weapon and was able to use it in a time of need (many people freeze in stress situations). Regardless of any laws broken, she helped her kids, so that's great. Not sure how the story however, really pertains to the actual problems with gun ownership and control. The issues being that it's too easy to get a gun, too easy to bypass controls for guns, little to no responsibility or follow-up for those who own guns, and handguns are not the big issues for shootings, rifles are.

The below happened yesterday.. where is the post for this one? Why do only posts of positive-spin one-off stories get posted and praised here?

Toddler dies from self-inflicted gunshot wound in California

The OP is a great feel-good story I guess, but these are posted as if these small "victories" prove somehow, there are not problems with gun ownership... because there are obviously problems, and ignoring them won't fix them.

originally posted by: fleabit
Glad the woman had a weapon and was able to use it in a time of need (many people freeze in stress situations). Regardless of any laws broken, she helped her kids, so that's great. Not sure how the story however, really pertains to the actual problems with gun ownership and control. The issues being that it's too easy to get a gun, too easy to bypass controls for guns, little to no responsibility or follow-up for those who own guns, and handguns are not the big issues for shootings, rifles are.

The below happened yesterday.. where is the post for this one? Why do only posts of positive-spin one-off stories get posted and praised here?

Toddler dies from self-inflicted gunshot wound in California

The OP is a great feel-good story I guess, but these are posted as if these small "victories" prove somehow, there are not problems with gun ownership... because there are obviously problems, and ignoring them won't fix them.

I guess you missed reading my opening sentences?

So, some here have openly stated that there is no reason a regular citizen needs to own and carry a personal firearm. Well, here is yet ANOTHER reason for this right here in America.

The MSM news runs hours AND DAYS of reports when children are killed by a gun. But merely a blurb news story and no discussions on the positive aspects of responsible ownership. No long drawn out discussions, are there?

As for your example, why don't YOU create a thread about it? Or are you waiting for someone else to do the work for you?

SMH

So, some here have openly stated that there is no reason a regular citizen needs to own and carry a personal firearm. Well, here is yet ANOTHER reason for this right here in America.

The MSM news runs hours AND DAYS of reports when children are killed by a gun. But merely a blurb news story and no discussions on the positive aspects of responsible ownership. No long drawn out discussions, are there?

Yea.. there is a reason for that. Because there are a lot more cases of people being attacked by guns, killing themselves with guns, and irresponsibly owning guns, than of these "omg guns are needed and here is proof!" stories. Could the woman have accomplished the same thing with a bottle of pepper spray? A taser? Only a gun would have achieved the results of getting the guy out of her car?

Not saying I mind she used a gun as her choice of self defense either. Just saying that these threads that try to glorify guns as the only possible self defense tool are ridiculous. And they further try to say cases like this one, proves that improved gun laws or better gun vetting are not necessary for that reason. Which makes no sense at all. There is a gun problem in the U.S. - doing literally nothing won't fix it.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Right blame the victim...what the F*ck is wrong with you? If not her, someone else, someone maybe not able to defend themselves. The point is DON'T try and rob people and you most likely won't get shot in the head...ffs grow up. I guess I can come over and take all your stuff, and your car, and kids, that's fine right? Cause that is what you're saying. This is another form of "look at what she was wearing, she was asking for it".

You make me sick.

originally posted by: uninspired
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

You make me sick.

Wow... I really am just truly devastated that you feel that way, mate.

But the truth is, I never said anything that even remotely insinuated I was "blaming the victim"... that assumption is entirely a figment of your own imagination.

Though, it is kind of funny how a few people here talk like they almost want to be robbed... Almost as if they're just busting to relieve some tension by being put in a position where they can legally put a bullet into some criminals head... As if life was some Hollywood movie and theirs no ugly aftermath when the "good guy" kills the "bad guy".

The job of attempting to scrub blood and brains out of your car seats may sound like fun to some people... But for me personally, its a task I would just about do anything to avoid.

What about driving around in a car that you killed someone in?

Again, for me me personally, that's an experience I'd much rather prefer to avoid... not particularly superstitious or nothing, but I reckon I'd get paranoid that the guy might try to haunt me or some s#! I'd probably be half expecting to see the prick in my back seat, staring back at me, every time I looked into the revision mirror, whenever I was driving down some empty highway late at night.

But anyway, what would I know? Just keep leaving your keys in the ignition when you go to pay for your fuel... If you get lucky, you might even get a chance to put your weapon to practical use by wasting some lowlife criminal... I'm sure that'll turn out to be a very positive experience for you.