Breaking Heat records all over by 10 degrees

a reply to: Blaine91555

Whose wallets do they dip into? It's always the middle class and small business that pays.

Like with SO2 credits? Did power prices rise because of that?

a reply to: Greven

What no human factor at all in your thinking?

What happens if food and energy prices suddenly spikes due to over regulation? Who is hurt? Its certainly not those pushing for it and be not fooled, they are in it for the money.

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Greven

What no human factor at all in your thinking?

What happens if food and energy prices suddenly spikes due to over regulation? Who is hurt? Its certainly not those pushing for it and be not fooled, they are in it for the money.

Who is this nefarious 'they'?

Maybe you should go after them directly if they are so evil.

a reply to: Blaine91555

When it's affordable and adaptable to all the climates, it will come and come quickly without the need to take anyone's money.

CO2 induced warming affects all climates. And it cannot be "quickly" reversed. Or are you talking about geoengineering the problem away?

a reply to: Greven

What kind of equipment was used?

What the equipment consistent?

If not, were there variance studies on the different types of equipment?

Who calibrated the equipment?

Was it calibrated?

What controls were used to calibrate the equipment?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Greven

What kind of equipment was used?

What the equipment consistent?

If not, were there variance studies on the different types of equipment?

Who calibrated the equipment?

Was it calibrated?

What controls were used to calibrate the equipment?

You can find all the information you ever want about spectrometers used. Go find it yourself.

The fact that you are questioning spectrometers now shows how sad this has gotten.

a reply to: Gothmog

Yes, and only recently have some of the ice sheets melted back enough to expose some of the mines and other settlements the early Viking colonists had established before they were driven off by the return of the deep freeze.

Of course, most people skip over how it was warmer during the Roman time period than it is now, but I doubt that was because the Romans were creating climate change. It was just naturally warmer.

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Greven

What kind of equipment was used?

What the equipment consistent?

If not, were there variance studies on the different types of equipment?

Who calibrated the equipment?

Was it calibrated?

What controls were used to calibrate the equipment?

You can find all the information you ever want about spectrometers used. Go find it yourself.

The fact that you are questioning spectrometers now show sad this has gotten.

I can't find if they calibrated them.

There is no study on variances of different spectrometers.

There is no verification paper on calibrations.


I'm an actual engineer, I don't take things on "faith".


You want me to "believe"? Then show proof. Because all you got now is snake oil.

a reply to: Phage

Anything that raises the price of production, raises the price to the end customer. Some can absorb it, but unless you subsidize the poor, they get harmed badly. Imagine the impact on the third world if food went up just a few percent.

Who subsidizes the poor? The middle class and small business. Who gets hurt when they work full time but still can't pay the heat bill in the winter? It's not Gates or any of the richest of the rich, made rich by the system they now hate while they munch on black caviar after a speech about protecting endangered species. Yes, I know I'm being a bit absurd, but you get the point.

I'll agree to disagree.

originally posted by: Gargoyle91
So global warming isn't a thing ? Here in Cali we are breaking just about every record by 10 degrees hell even the Boston areas are hitting 108 110 , What the Heck is going on? Are we not being told something? Or do the Sceintist even know what's happening , What's our max we can take I see plants dying today hitting 120 here let's say we hit 130 -140 .. this is getting crazy .

Not sure whether it's global warming or something else...but here in Indiana two days ago it got to 117 heat index! That's the hottest I ever remember living in the midwest. Yes, it is summer. Yes, we have a lot of humidity in the summer. However, I don't recall ever having heat indexes in the 100's in June and we already have had for several weeks off and on. And I sure never remember having it be 117 on the first of July! Hope it doens't go to 130 when we finally get to the "dog days of summer" in late July/August!

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Greven

What no human factor at all in your thinking?

What happens if food and energy prices suddenly spikes due to over regulation? Who is hurt? Its certainly not those pushing for it and be not fooled, they are in it for the money.

Who is this nefarious 'they'?

Maybe you should go after them directly if they are so evil.

I'll pass on the bait, got to get some work done so I can pay my bills. Thanks for the conversation.

a reply to: ketsuko

It was just naturally warmer.

So that means that anthropogenic CO2 doesn't cause warming?

But tell me, was most of the planet warmer during the Roman Warm Period?

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Greven

What kind of equipment was used?

What the equipment consistent?

If not, were there variance studies on the different types of equipment?

Who calibrated the equipment?

Was it calibrated?

What controls were used to calibrate the equipment?

You can find all the information you ever want about spectrometers used. Go find it yourself.

The fact that you are questioning spectrometers now show sad this has gotten.

I can't find if they calibrated them.

There is no study on variances of different spectrometers.

There is no verification paper on calibrations.


I'm an actual engineer, I don't take things on "faith".


You want me to "believe"? Then show proof. Because all you got now is snake oil.

I don't really care whether you 'believe' or not.

You are demonstrating well the fake skepticism that plagues climate change.

a reply to: Greven

I ask legitimate questions.

Can't help it if you're butthurt over it.

originally posted by: Blaine91555

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Greven

What no human factor at all in your thinking?

What happens if food and energy prices suddenly spikes due to over regulation? Who is hurt? Its certainly not those pushing for it and be not fooled, they are in it for the money.

Who is this nefarious 'they'?

Maybe you should go after them directly if they are so evil.

I'll pass on the bait, got to get some work done so I can pay my bills. Thanks for the conversation.

You wrote:

originally posted by: Blaine91555
What happens if food and energy prices suddenly spikes due to over regulation? Who is hurt? Its certainly not those pushing for it and be not fooled, they are in it for the money.

I asked who 'they' are.

Given your remarks, this 'other' is quite evil. Who are they?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Greven

I ask legitimate questions.

Can't help it if you're butthurt over it.

No, you did not.

You're not interested in a discussion.

The Mud Pit is that-a-way.

a reply to: Greven

As an engineer, I asked legitimate questions.

Ones you got upset about because they probably questioned your faith.


Go pray to the Weather Channel. Maybe you'll feel better.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Greven

As an engineer, I asked legitimate questions.

Ones you got upset about because they probably questioned your faith.


Go pray to the Weather Channel. Maybe you'll feel better.

No, you did not, and you weren't interested in their answers anyway.

posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 08:43 PM

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Greven

What kind of equipment was used?

What the equipment consistent?

If not, were there variance studies on the different types of equipment?

Who calibrated the equipment?

Was it calibrated?

What controls were used to calibrate the equipment?

You can find all the information you ever want about spectrometers used. Go find it yourself.

The fact that you are questioning spectrometers now shows how sad this has gotten.

posted on Jul, 6 2018 @ 08:46 PM

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Greven

What kind of equipment was used?

What the equipment consistent?

If not, were there variance studies on the different types of equipment?

Who calibrated the equipment?

Was it calibrated?

What controls were used to calibrate the equipment?

You can find all the information you ever want about spectrometers used. Go find it yourself.

The fact that you are questioning spectrometers now show sad this has gotten.

I can't find if they calibrated them.

There is no study on variances of different spectrometers.

There is no verification paper on calibrations.


I'm an actual engineer, I don't take things on "faith".


You want me to "believe"? Then show proof. Because all you got now is snake oil.

Yeah, you looked real hard in those 3 minutes.

Again, you are not interested in a discussion, nor the reality of climate science.

You are only interesting trolling and sowing doubt, as illustrated by your repeated insults and denigration.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Gothmog

Yes, and only recently have some of the ice sheets melted back enough to expose some of the mines and other settlements the early Viking colonists had established before they were driven off by the return of the deep freeze.

Of course, most people skip over how it was warmer during the Roman time period than it is now, but I doubt that was because the Romans were creating climate change. It was just naturally warmer.

And just think , climatologists have only a 30 year requirement for a time frame
That is approximately 1.5e-8 power percentage of the lifespan so far of the Earth . I cannot even count that low....
All Hail Phage for bringing that to my attention
Now I have a great deal in the climate change debate