Wisconsin police can legally draw blood from unconscious drunk drivers without a warrant

Wisconsin police can legally draw blood from unconscious drunk drivers without a warrant

As long as you're clean and legal meds are accounted for there is nothing to worry about.

It's the drunks and drug abusers who usually bitch about laws that protect the innocent.

a reply to: Lurker1

Yea...


Because the innoncent are always cool with being manhandled and forfuly stuck with needles ...


Lol

a reply to: Lurker1

As long as you're clean and legal meds are accounted for there is nothing to worry about.

Except...

• poor sterilization leading to potential disease
  
• damage from poor technique inserting the needle
  
• ability to be informed who does the testing and who has handled the sample
  
• inept handling of the sample

It's the drunks and drug abusers who usually bitch about laws that protect the innocent.

Did you just call me a drunk or a drug abuser?

TheRedneck

One could avoid this whole situation:
Don't drink and drive.

"Implied consent" is for life saving measures. It is not for possible, probable prosecution. I can't see this surviving the SCOTUS.

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
One could avoid this whole situation:
Don't drink and drive.

My point exactly.

Sorry, wrong thread.

but this is a prime case of cookie cutter policing: your friend might have done that....but to punish EVERYONE as if they too are doing that....is a prime example of what we DON'T want in the country....or at least our founding father's didn't want it.....
and a field sobriety test? I am an epileptic with TBI and a tumor in my brain...I would not EVER pass one.......the cops who arrested me was so uneducated that he didn't KNOW I was having a seizure.....it wasn't until I got to the JAIL and they actually looked me up in whatever system they used....that I was BELIEVED....and you can bet my treatment changed.......in MY experience with LEO, I learned that I was GUILTY in the eyes of that cop....period. The hospital I was taken to was given a VIOLATION notice from the State because they were ALSO breaking with policy....and guess what....it was COPS that took my blood RIGHT THERE IN THAT HOSPITAL.......I was held down WHILE IN 4 POINT RESTRAINTS.......by 5 grown men RIGHT as I was coming out of a epileptic seizure that the cop thought I had been FAKING.......
What was it that Benjamin Franklin said about a society willing to give up its freedoms for the sake of "safety"....??

a slippery slope indeed.....and we're not talking murder here.....DUI......we are arresting people on their possibly (and possible capacity) for harm......yet a person on their cell phone texting, to me, is MUCH more dangerous.....someone driving after 2 beers is NOT......
and I am not talking lawlessness...I am talking about CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS...and the suspension of said rights FOR DUI....for CHA-CHING...$$$$$$$......Ya'll might be ok with that.....but I never will be....
a reply to: strongfp

a reply to: FyreByrd

All sorts of Constitutional issues here, I shouldn't wonder.

you obviously don't know the LAW.......even legal drugs can give you a DUI.......try driving with Ativan n your blood stream.....or a lot of seizures meds.....meds for pain, mental illness, etc etc.....

I mean, with THAT statement.....that means you would be OK with the tazing of this autistic boy who cops thought was drunk.....thefreethoughtproject.com... reply to: Lurker1

a reply to: JAGStorm

Cant see how it could be admissible in any court considering the blood sample could come from anywhere or be tampered with by Police.

Suppose it will all be down on CCTV all the same, to ensure the veracity of any evidence gathered.

If even spitting on a person is considered assault what's sticking a needle in someone?

originally posted by: TheRedneck
Did you just call me a drunk or a drug abuser?

TheRedneck

Well Mountain Dew abuse is on the rise.

a reply to: intrepid

Depends on who is doing the sticking with a needle i suppose.

If it's you or me possibly attempted Murder or serious assault.

If its the Gooberments Police force then its probably normal procedure now.

a reply to: JAGStorm

There's no way that will stand. I'm thinking back to that case where the nurse was arrested for protecting the rights of her patient who was in a coma not to have blood drawn without consent. I did quite a bit of research into that, and if memory serves, there are already precedent stating that our blood is covered by the 4th Amendment--of course, if officers can receive a warrant to draw the blood, that's different.

Again, unless I'm mistaken. I don't see this ruling lasting.

Of course, who knows--driving is a privilege, and many states have all kinds of implied-consent laws surrounding operating a motor vehicle, so this will be interesting to watch. I don't necessarily agree with them, but I'm just some guy on the internet.

Again....wrong....the hospital "torture room" I woke up in had no cameras....and there is HIPPA ...plus not all LEO have body cameras.....and a lot of the time they are mysteriously off....malfunctioning...etc....a reply to: andy06shake

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
One could avoid this whole situation:
Don't drink and drive.

Of course, and in this case "don't drive while unconscious".

lol .... crazy stuff.

a reply to: Cornczech

Again?

When was i wrong the first time? LoL

Strange how LEO seem to have all this malfunctioning cameras and equipment around or even in use, i mean their guns obviously work just fine.

a reply to: Cornczech

If you pass out with diabetic seizures i hope your state had enough sense to take your license. You have no business driving anywhere you will kill yourself or worse yet someone else.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: JBurns

Well, it sounds far fetched but what I see this leading to, is oh we need everyone's DNA because that's how we'll find serial killers and murders etc.

Right!

There was a thread a little while back that made light of the fact that in multiple states since 1983, a newborn's "blood spot" or blood sample was stored for up to 3 years, and in fact in California, stored indefinitely, and some were even potentiallly SOLD or given to 3rd party "research" groups...

There was a lot of shilling on that thread, the typical "hush now, let this blow over."

Not happy about that at all.