US Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits

Some of the service members say they were not told why they were being discharged. Others who pressed for answers said the Army informed them they’d been labeled as security risks because they have relatives abroad or because the Defense Department had not completed background checks on them.

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This is disgusting, apparently we're now purifying the military.

We're accelerating rapidly along 1930's Germany's path.

Thoughts on this? Does anyone support it? The military was relying pretty heavily on making numbers by offering a path to citizenship to legal immigrants and it seems that path has now been eliminated.

I guess this is some pretty strong evidence to the rumors that Mattis has been completely sidelined.

a reply to: Aazadan

We're accelerating rapidly along 1930's Germany's path.

And that's how you kill any credibility.

a reply to: Aazadan

This has nothing to do with "Mattis being sidelined" or purifying the military. You can't serve if they don't complete a background check within a certain time-frame. You need a security clearance among other things.

From the source article:

Stock said the service members she’s heard from had been told the Defense Department had not managed to put them through extensive background checks, which include CIA, FBI and National Intelligence Agency screenings and counterintelligence interviews. Therefore, by default, they do not meet the background check requirement.

I've seen the same thing happen to people that were citizens occasionally too. It's harder to do background checks on immigrants because of having to go through foreign governments and the time it can take to get word back from them.

They wouldn't let me join when I was younger and I even aced the ASVAB test, all because I had 1 unpaid speeding ticket.

So, having unknown connections to enemy countries, or some other unknown and unmitigated security issues is a darn good reason to not be accepted into any branch of the military.

This isn't just Trump attacking immigrants without cause.

originally posted by: Muninn
a reply to: Aazadan

We're accelerating rapidly along 1930's Germany's path.

And that's how you kill any credibility.

How so? Does my opinion on the article and the ultra nationalism that's rising in the US somehow change the facts that it's reporting?

a reply to: Aazadan


FORTY! Did you read the article? FORTY! OMG the world is coming to an end. Sorry but the AP is as bad as CNN. Forty individuals being booted hardly qualifies as the purge the APs title suggests.


Guess you never served? It's real easy to get your ass tossed out for several reasons....even for CITIZENS.


More fake outrage?

a reply to: Aazadan

Just as an FYI:
Certain jobs in the military require a person to pass a very extensive background check .Even down to speaking with your neighbors and your elementary school teachers on up.
I knew someone that had to go through this a long time ago. And this person and their relatives back all the way through US history were US citizens .

No "devil" as this was just an FYI

a reply to: Gothmog

These are for basic grunt positions.

originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: Gothmog

These are for basic grunt positions.

Care to compare you and the AP's FAKE out rage to the number of citizens booted the hell out?

I'll wait since the 40 upsets you. lmao

a reply to: Zaphod58

Is there a mechanism to appeal the decision or is it a done deal once you've been discharged?

a reply to: Aazadan

It doesn't matter. You can't complete basic without an extensive background check. It's part of getting your TS clearance, as well as making sure there's nothing hidden that will come down on you or the service.

Basic grunt positions still have a security clearance, it's just not that high of a one. If memory serves, I believe it is at the secret level. You do need to see intel reports once in a while.

a reply to: Aazadan

It's not really new. My room mate was Russian and became a citizen while we were in Afghanistan. His wife who was still in Russia was not as lucky, as something that turned up during her Visa request prevented her from immigrating, and he was told that it could lead to his discharge eventually.

a reply to: PistolPete

It depends on how badly they need people. Right now, possibly. Some of these they'll discharge, and then once everything comes in, if it's all clear, they'll offer them their enlistment back. They just tend to not tell you that in case something comes back.

So 40, out of thousands, equates to a 1930's German purge? Get outa here.

Any chance that clearances are being "prioritized?"

Actually, I'm not sure the Pentagon is entirely onboard with the administration's agenda(s).

a reply to: Aazadan

Really?

I thought that's was the ranks where the US recruited most of the cannon fodder.

Guess the information age/smart munition/GPS world in which we live makes them somewhat obsolete.

Now if only both of our respective nations could stop making a national sport of killing impoverished brown people from afar the world might be a far better place to exist, especially if you are brown.

a reply to: Phage

Right now? I doubt it. All the services are practically begging people to join.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Yeah, I had a second thought (edit).

a reply to: Zaphod58

Well I can't really say that I have an issue with this, then. This seems to have been policy for quite some time.