A difference between Judaism and Islam...

Funny, I don't even see a discussion here. All I see is the usual people trying to bash Islam, do you want to discuss that?

Do I want to discuss your warped misconception of this discussion? No, I don't.

Quote: "it was written by people used to tribal warfare."

So what are you saying - the Hebrews WERE NOT used to Tribal warfare? That is NONSENSE!!!

Abraham was a Muslum - what the? Were did that Come from?

Listen MOSES is the Main Prophet of Judaism - Mohammed is the Main Prophet of Islam & Jesus Christ is the Main Prophet of Christianity!

Someone stated on another thread that Abraham was from UR - that would make him a SUMMERIAN. As for the "God" that he made a Covenant with - it could very well be the same "God" as the Jews & Muslums - they are pretty much the same Religion Belief wise - Language & Culture - that is a Different Story!!!

Originally posted by Seraphim_Serpente
Someone stated on another thread that Abraham was from UR - that would make him a SUMMERIAN.

Abraham and his family left Ur when he was a boy. The family moved to Haran, North of Canaan to the West of the Euphrates.
Although he was born in Ur, he spent the vast majority of his life there. It wasn't until he was 75 years old that he got the call from god to leave Haran.

Ur made him a Chald�an, not a Sumerian.

Originally posted by Illmatic67
kitty, I meant there the same God.

And if you look in a Hebrew Torah.. the name Allah is mentioned many times as Ilah. Allah means The God. Al for the and Ilah for God.

The name Allah never appears anywhere in Torah, nor indeed in Tanakh, nor any Jewish writings up until the time of the Saadia Gaon (about 1100 years ago), when he wrote that, eventhough the Muslims' "Allah" was not the same as the Jewish G-d, the name itself had lost most of its PAGAN CONNOTATIONS (especially association in the Makkah area with moon goddess worship), and so it was permitted for Arabic-speaking Jews to refer to G-d as Allah when speaking Arabic. When that happened, THEN the Christians adopted the habit of referring to G-d as Allah too, when speaking Arabic. The Muslims have turned history on its head, and say that it has always been so, but that's simply not the case.

"Allah" may very well be a combination of al-ilah in Arabic (HIGHLY UNLIKELY, however...)...but there is no way someone can say that it could ever mean such a thing in Hebrew. "The" in Hebrew has never been signified by "al-", it has always been "ha-". Hebrew does have a plural of the Hebrew word for "god" or "ultimate judge", "'el", which is "elohim", which is also the word for G-d. "The god", however, is "ha'el", not "al-(i)lah". Even "the gods" is "ha'elohim". There is, however, a Hebrew word "'al", which means "don't!", as a command. Another Hebrew word "`al", means "on, over, above, about". "'ayil" means "ram", "'alil" means "idol" (how fitting). "`Ilah" means "pretext", "`ila'i" means "superb", "`alah" means "ascend, go to Jerusalem, move to the land of Israel", but I think you'll agree, we're getting kind of far from "ilah", a word which simply does not exist in Hebrew, nor is it found in the Torah, nor anywhere else in Tanakh.

Sorry, but, in keeping with the subtitle of the name of this site, to wit: deny ignorance, I had to say something. So um, yeah, there we go. Now you're less ignorant, if only a little bit. Sorry, I don't have time to go thru and spell check for you. (If it weren't such a big job, I'd do it, but hey. That's what dictionaries are for...)

Kol tov.
-t

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