Alien implant? Panoramic X-ray.

a reply to: JackHill

Abductions can be tracked down even before WWII. So no, blaming "human organizations" like the origin of the phenomena simply doesn't match evidence.

Yeah because humans didn't exist before WW2

Please excuse my ignorance.

Where did I blame any human organization for anything?

Seeing things that are not there is not a good sing for one mental health





Anyway, if alien abductions not abductions can be traced to b4 WW2 you should help another member with a thread that is specifically about this.

As far as I know what can be traced is circumstantial and based on interpretation.

In either case, you're simply wrong.

OK so humans don't abduct other humans and humans didn't exist before WW2.

Guys, I'm the one who thought Rick30 may have been a friend of the OP as they posted almost together and left almost together. That turned out not true, as Rick explained... there is no reason to get on his case.

He has helped out more so far then the OP has. He is the one that made the only image, however bad it is, available to us.

And the OP hasn't come back yet. So while this may be a hoax, it's not Rick's fault, get off his case.

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: JackHill

Abductions can be tracked down even before WWII. So no, blaming "human organizations" like the origin of the phenomena simply doesn't match evidence.

Yeah because humans didn't exist before WW2

Please excuse my ignorance.

Where did I blame any human organization for anything?

Seeing things that are not there is not a good sing for one mental health

Anyway, if alien abductions not abductions can be traced to b4 WW2 you should help another member with a thread that is specifically about this.

As far as I know what can be traced is circumstantial and based on interpretation.

In either case, you're simply wrong.

OK so humans don't abduct other humans and humans didn't exist before WW2.

Abductees are not "seeing things", they're being physically removed from their normal environments, then returned with memories suppressed. Relatives cannot find the abductee, sometimes multiple persons are taken at the same time and share same recollections, there are clear physical elements, symmetrical body marks, even implants have been recovered. Abductees children start to show abduction symptoms aswell.

Evidence is all over. These beings are very efficient on what they do. A couple of persons discussing on forums or disclosing their experiences on TV won't represent a menace to their agenda.

I cannot say it strong enough: there's a silent infiltration going on. That's the final purpose of the program.

originally posted by: JackHill

Abductees are not "seeing things", they're being physically removed from their normal environments, then returned with memories suppressed. Relatives cannot find the abductee, sometimes multiple persons are taken at the same time and share same recollections, there are clear physical elements, symmetrical body marks, even implants have been recovered. Abductees children start to show abduction symptoms aswell.

You speak with such conviction and knowledge that we are being "infiltrated" by aliens abducting millions of people. Any skeptic or logical person would ask for evidence. Obviously "even implants have been recovered" is part of why you believe and would be physical evidence. Please post your example of single alien implant case that shows evidence of alien beings are here. It will give us all an idea of how seriously we can take this all-knowing knowledge.

originally posted by: Ectoplasm8

originally posted by: JackHill

Abductees are not "seeing things", they're being physically removed from their normal environments, then returned with memories suppressed. Relatives cannot find the abductee, sometimes multiple persons are taken at the same time and share same recollections, there are clear physical elements, symmetrical body marks, even implants have been recovered. Abductees children start to show abduction symptoms aswell.

You speak with such conviction and knowledge that we are being "infiltrated" by aliens abducting millions of people. Any skeptic or logical person would ask for evidence. Obviously "even implants have been recovered" is part of why you believe and would be physical evidence. Please post your example of single alien implant case that shows evidence of alien beings are here. It will give us all an idea of how seriously we can take this all-knowing knowledge.

Implants have been recovered from abductees, check the work of people like Derrel Sims on the subject.

Abductees have been describing on their experiences about "hybrid beings". With time, these hybrids were "perfected" to look exactly like a regular human being, except they retain the neurological capabilities. Abductees are forced to teach hybrids about our daily lives, so they can learn and once fully prepared, they "move" here and stay.

The whole point of the abduction program was precisely this.

a reply to: anotherside

I'm sorry, but can't you see that what you have shown as your evidence can be interpreted by a logical person as a skin rash and a blurry blowup of an X-ray? When people ask for evidence they need to be shown something that the average person would agree is actually legitimate.

Time and time again, proof of ET abductions is sorely lacking. Hell, there is not even any proof of ET! Something is happening, I think most would agree to that. Many here would like to believe you, but you need to show something better than you have. Until then, it is an interesting story with no proof to back it up.

originally posted by: JackHill
Implants have been recovered from abductees, check the work of people like Derrel Sims on the subject.

That's not what I asked. I asked you to point to a single alien implant case for you shows definite alien involvement. This gives us a gauge of how seriously we can take your authoritative tone that "millions" people are being abducted and there's an alien agenda. Otherwise you have no more knowledge than anyone else and shouldn't go around spouting as if you know.

Abductees have been describing on their experiences about "hybrid beings". With time, these hybrids were "perfected" to look exactly like a regular human being, except they retain the neurological capabilities. Abductees are forced to teach hybrids about our daily lives, so they can learn and once fully prepared, they "move" here and stay.

The whole point of the abduction program was precisely this.

That's all fantasy and nonsense without evidence.

originally posted by: Ectoplasm8

originally posted by: JackHill
Implants have been recovered from abductees, check the work of people like Derrel Sims on the subject.

That's not what I asked. I asked you to point to a single alien implant case for you shows definite alien involvement. This gives us a gauge of how seriously we can take your authoritative tone that "millions" people are being abducted and there's an alien agenda. Otherwise you have no more knowledge than anyone else and shouldn't go around spouting as if you know.

Abductees have been describing on their experiences about "hybrid beings". With time, these hybrids were "perfected" to look exactly like a regular human being, except they retain the neurological capabilities. Abductees are forced to teach hybrids about our daily lives, so they can learn and once fully prepared, they "move" here and stay.

The whole point of the abduction program was precisely this.

That's all fantasy and nonsense without evidence.

Again, read Derrel Sims and similar researchers on the subject and make your own mind around it. Here is a pretty descriptive article on the subject:

www.mufon.com...

Regarding the later part, I don't give a flying # honestly about your opinion, because obviously you're not informed on the subject, and I mean, at all. Evidence is all over the place, I mean, FFS, you literally even have people here on this very forum coming from time to time speaking about the very same incidents, over, and over, and over again.

Do you really think these beings are idiots? They won't let you interfere with their agenda, they have invested a LOT of time and resources to perform these stealth operations, they won't just give you alien tissue and cause mass reaction when results reach the press, it would be completely counterproductive to them.

And YES, everything points out to a silent infiltration. The very same abductees are faced with the human looking hybrids they helped to prepare since childhood and later experiences literally involves abductees being carried to the apartments and houses where these beings are already living.

a reply to: JackHill

I read your link, one thing that really stands out to me, and I quote: " Derrel Sims has stated that a scientific peer review of all tests must be done before more specifics can be released. This is the standard course of action taken in any scientific endeavor."

The work was done in 1996, can you please post a link to the peer reviews? I really don't think there are any. So what I read, is that there is no proof that these objects were alien implants. Unless of course you want to take the word of the people they were taken from. That's a "he said she said " type thing, and you don't know if it's true or not.

I for one don't know if these are real experiences, calls for attention, hallucinations or what. As far as objects getting under your skin and staying there for years, it happens. Not everything gets infected. A case in point, is the fact that I had a small piece of shrapnel come out by my hip 10 years after the incident. The only reason I knew it was there was that I bumped it just right, and it broke the skin. Still absolutely no evidence, just conjecture.

And remember, just because people say something over and over doesn't make it true.

a reply to: JackHill

Again, read Derrel Sims and similar researchers on the subject and make your own mind around it. Here is a pretty descriptive article on the subject:

And again you can't come up with a single case that shows absolute evidence that aliens are here? You want a broad sweep of the hand - "oh just go look at all of these cases." You know why that's done by hardcore believers? Because there isn't a single case ever that has given us an ounce of physical evidence. You do understand that all it takes is a small piece of evidence from one incident, right? But because this does not exist with millions of abductions, believers have no other choice but to point to all claims as a whole as their evidence. Weak.

...because obviously you're not informed on the subject, and I mean, at all. Evidence is all over the place

Yes yes the infamous go-to argument to skeptics "you just don't know the evidence". I'd place a good bet on the skeptical knowing far more about cases than those that support it. We will look deeper into all sides of a claim and not just the sensationalized garbage sold to the public.

I mean, FFS, you literally even have people here on this very forum coming from time to time speaking about the very same incidents, over, and over, and over again.

Sorry, I'm not naive enough to believe everything that strangers claim on the internet is the truth. Especially when it's an alien being visiting Earth.

Regarding the later part, I don't give a flying # honestly about your opinion

This isn't about my opinion, it's about you speaking in absolutes that there's an "alien agenda" going on. You've done this lately in multiple threads and still have provided zero in the way of evidence. Again I ask for evidence or accountability to claims on the forum and end up with nothing. Oh well.

a reply to: Ectoplasm8

"Again I ask for evidence or accountability to claims on the forum and end up with nothing. Oh well."



I'm with you here brother, keep hoping but nothing shows. I really don't understand how fanatical some can be without anything solid to lean on.

originally posted by: Topcraft
a reply to: anotherside

I'm sorry, but can't you see that what you have shown as your evidence can be interpreted by a logical person as a skin rash and a blurry blowup of an X-ray? When people ask for evidence they need to be shown something that the average person would agree is actually legitimate.

Time and time again, proof of ET abductions is sorely lacking. Hell, there is not even any proof of ET! Something is happening, I think most would agree to that. Many here would like to believe you, but you need to show something better than you have. Until then, it is an interesting story with no proof to back it up.

Believe what you will i dont care.

If you don't believe what people are saying why even bother writing on this thread, move on and pick something you do every interesting thread about abductions or aliens gets shut down by the same people spouting the same nonsense about prove to me...

If what there saying is true and you get abducted middle of the night its pretty damn hard to prove is it not, it really spoils the thread cos people tell you about there abductions and there all pretty interesting stories and then before they can get into detail or be pressed on the subject someone turns them off from writing anymore about it on here

It really spoils what could be great threads fabricated or not

a reply to: anotherside

Well, you stated that you wanted rational conversation, I'm trying to have one. I came to ATS as an attempt to understand the subject we are talking about here. I know you believe what you say, but you really don't give a guy much to go on.

Either you do care about what other people think, or you are just here to find someone that will agree with whatever you say. that's no way to get to the bottom of this phenomena or you're experience. I'm here to learn, not attack you.

What you present as evidence falls far short of you're claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Please, if you have that present it. If you do that you will shut up every sceptic on this board, and we will all learn something. You stated in this thread that you heard voices. Sometimes people that do, also see things that are not really there. There are medical conditions that can cause that. How will anyone know if what you say actually happened or is an illusion, unless you can provide tangible proof.

If I have offended you, I apologize, but you're leaving yourself wide open. I'm out of here, I hope you figure out what's happening to you.

a reply to: theruthlessone


"It really spoils what could be great threads fabricated or not"


Nuff said, I come here for fact, not fabrication.

a reply to: Richard Corbin

As someone who works in the Maxillofacial surgical field, I feel as if I have a fairly educated opinion on your cone beam CT scan (your x-ray). Its pretty clear you've had your share of dental restorations, and that to me, gives a clue on what the object of high radio opacity is. I daresay its precious metal that has propagated from a site of a failed / removed root canal treatment OR that has come from another restoration. The propagation of bone fragments around the mandible / maxilla (jaw / upper jaw) is a common occurrence and the deposits are referred to as a "torus". These can happen anywhere in the mouth, but are most prominent in the mandible and palate (roof of your mouth). They're caused by the natural movement of teeth from chewing, that break loose tiny fragments of bone from around the roots of the teeth. These tiny fragments of bone then group together and displace themselves elsewhere. If a piece of precious metal was left over from a root treatment, or a broken piece of metal from another restoration has made it below the gum line in your mouth, this could easily become lodged in the location of interest in your cone beam scan due to that propagation.

The objects high radio opacity (the fact it shows up as pure white on the scan) suggests its a precious metal alloy, which are commonly used as dentistry. If it was aluminium or titanium for example, it would have a lower radio opacity (it would appear as see through on the cone beam)

It most likely has a earthly explanation, but alas, I'm only giving a educated guess.

a reply to: JackHill

Abductees are not "seeing things",

When I said seeing things it had nothing to do abductions but you seeing things written that weren't.

These beings are very efficient on what they do.

Yes they are.

I cannot say it strong enough: there's a silent infiltration going on. That's the final purpose of the program.

a silent infiltration is the final purpose of the abduction program done by unknowns with unknown purposes but you cant say it strong enough that this is the purpose.

a reply to: theruthlessone

If you don't believe what people are saying why even bother writing on this thread,

who are you directing this too?


What type of logic is that?

If you don't believe what people say why even bother living on earth?

move on and pick something you do every interesting thread about abductions or aliens gets shut down by the same people spouting the same nonsense about prove to me...

Posting in this forum and making claims will be met with skepticism and asking of evidence.

People can post in the gray area or in skunk works where its free for all and hounding posters for evidence in those forums is a no no.

originally posted by: anotherside

Heres my evidence.

so now its alien and not evil human tech?


I swear when a youtube video comes out and it has a good production claiming that Mandela effect people should check for implants you will say this is evidence that you have jumped realities.


Get a grip man.


evidence?

Yes its evidence that that an Xray picture can be posted in your posts, that is all its evidence for, its actually proven.

However its evidence for absolutely nothing else without further things to corroborate.

Wow, I posted my experience and thought I posted Dental X-ray image of metal object embedded inside of my jawbone and then left. Today Febuary 28th, 2021 I return to 4 pages of comments, some interesting & others that were adversarial & arguemenitive & out-right mean spirited. I NEVER meant for that to happen.

No one colluded with me !
It was MY experience, it happened to me!
The Dental X-ray image? I thought I went through the process of posting it.

I'd like to point out that ATS is not user friendly for infrequent visitors or first time users. For instance what do all of the icons mean. There are no shadow box letters indicating their meaning. "Ya gotta press & guess !

Thank you Sir, for correcting my image posting. I thought it would post. I appreciate & am grateful for your effort to get the image posted. I have several, but, posted just one.
The picture was taken with a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Smartphone at VA Dental Clinic in Billings, Montana. I am reclined in the Dental Chair and I asked if I could take a picture of the image displayed on their Monitor. I took several. One clearly shows my name at bottom right of screen. I also took a video shot of the screen.

If "anyone" wants those, email me at
Rchcrbn at yahoo dot com and I will send them to you. I have the original X-ray as I asked if I could purchase a copy.

Most everyone missed the fact the most puzzling part of the experience although I clearly pointed it out…Dentist, Dr. Gary Weber of Sterling, Colorado took a Panoramic and metal in the jawbone is not there. I moved to Hawaii and Queens Dental Clinic's Panagraphic clearly reveals it. Between those two Dental Cleaning/Exams it appears.
I emailed Dentists Dr. Gary Weber's office in Sterling Colorado asking if his Panagram revealed it. I told him about Hawaiian Dental visit and described the great amount of interest generated and 3 Dentist came to look and were very puzzled. Dentist Dr. Gary Weber in Sterling, Colorado replied that there was "NO" such object in the Panographic he took. He saw nothing in the Jawbone whatsoever. From one Dental Exam to the next this metal appears. We are talking about months not years that would allow material to drift through tissue and into the interior of Jawbone as was suggested by one commenter. There was no drift of anything.

Perhaps it's my fault. Typing on a small smartphone screen is tedious and tends to have me shorten my thoughts in type.

When this first happened, I went to the Honolulu Library. Ufo book, very old, I saw a picture of a Dental X-ray provided by a DoD Defense contractor of his Jawbone implant or "drifted material" and it matched mine "EXACTLY". What are the odds. From time to time I visit different city Libraries hoping to find that book so that I can copy his X-ray image & post next to mine.

Last: I left so very much out. There is more to the Story. But including everything would only increase some incredulous discrimatory opinions.

Why ?? I want to know WHY, MOST UFO hunters, researchers etc, spend a lifetime and die never seeing a single UFO. They sincerly believe but never get to see. They hunt but never find. Yet, I have seen & heard UFO's, Plural and I'm not HUNTING them as a profession. I have seen Small dull gray Sphere dive into a mist that appears in front of it. Egg/Oval shinny nickel metal shapes, and "V" shaped & Square like a Borg Cube, Spinning Donut Shape with a donut hole & then the deep electromagnetic thrum/pulse/beat of one. How is it that while living in Naples, Texas it sounded & felt like the house behind mine blew up in a horrific explosion and cracked the calking around my homes windows. The entire neighborhood was out in the streets searching for the source of an explosion that according to the County Sheriff's Office was felt within a 30 mile radius and Barksdale AFB 108 miles away denied a Sonic Boom having occurred in the last 25/30 years. How is it I saw two bluish orbs with soft white leading lites in front and side by side pass over my next door neighbors house. The very next day I did a search and discovered that the orb's originated a few hundred miles south over the Gulf Coast and made its way straight North and I think it stopped around Oklahoma and made a sharp right turn and headed out towards the east coast. And then, and I will stop here, my cable TV connection failed and my internet connection failed and my cell phone failed all at the same time so I went outside and sat on the front porch and I saw my neighbor and they said their cable TV went out but they don't have the internet or cell phones and then we all heard what sounded like a giant trumpet in the sky and it blew for about 20 minutes and when it stopped a few minutes later the cable TV and the internet and my cell phone was operating again. I want to know why I see and experience so many of these strange events and UFOs While others professionally research and hunt for them and die never having seen a single one or experienced any of these strange phenomena. I really would like to know. It does not matter to me if No One Believes Me. I don't need their beliefs. I like that about myself. I simply share my experience hoping that somewhere there is someone that has experienced this too and that we can share our experience and our thoughts and feelings about what this is. One comment suggested that I should not mention Whitley strieber. I bought his communion book I kept it for 21 years and I never read it except for either the opening or the ending page which stated when you see their eyes it is like they are looking into your soul. I experienced that as a little boy and when I read those words I knew without any doubt whatsoever that Whitley strieber described something that we both shared. I felt that deep look into the soul and it doesn't feel comfortable. I have listened to Whitley strieber on Coast to Coast AM and more recently Through The Years on his website. It seems as if he has multiple and ongoing experiences just like me. I neither agree nor disagree with Whitley strieber and his experiences except for that statement about his experience on either the first page or the last page of his book titled communion where he states that their eyes look into your soul, on that we are in total and perfect agreement. I wish I could answer everyone's questions but if I did I know there are many that would never believe me and they will never believe others like Whitley strieber and you know what I don't blame you I do not blame them it is extremely hard to believe and sometimes I find myself wondering why me. There is absolutely nothing special about me at all. I am your regular Old Joe. As God as my witness and my soul at stake I promise to God that every single thing I wrote is true. At the same time I realize it's just words that I'm typing to anyone that reads it. My purpose is to seek out others who have experienced these things and share our thoughts and our feelings and our experiences and try to figure out the commonalities. I do not have much by way of wealth but what I have I would give it all away if I could just know why, me!

I Want-to-Know, WHY !