#WalkAway from the democratic party

a reply to: pointessa

Squaring the Circle-Jerk (part zero)

More from the same old SJW socialists on The Intercept:

What gave Ocasio-Cortez’s platform its power is not just her rhetorical acuity — the fact that she’s frank where others are euphemistic. She’s able to be frank because her ideology is internally consistent and uncompromised by the influence of money — just as others are euphemistic where the truth would upset their donors.

theintercept.com...

Walk away from the comfort zone alphabet provided and have a little brainstorm beyond emotional turmoil on ATS?

a reply to: PublicOpinion

People like her will end up turning off more people.

I was considered a liberal back in college. I was for free speech, personal liberty and a Government not telling others what to do or how to live. Now those things are considered right wing for some damn reason.

do these people not realize that our country and economy have to fundamentally be changed in order to support a socialist agenda?

dangerous ideology, very dangerous

why would any of you socialist want to give more of your personal power over to government?

I want my money (power) in my hands so I can choose what to do with it I don't want the government choosing for me

I will help people in my life to the best of my ability with my money and not at the end of a government gun

a reply to: pointessa

Why?

If people like myself don't fix the problem, who, may I ask, will?

I'm a lifelong, sometimes annoyed, sometimes not, democrat. Have been since I was a supporter of Gary Hart at the state convention.

Though these days, I'm more an independent. One day, the democratic party will come back to me. I didn't leave it, it left me. For me to leave it, would somehow imply that I've been wrong all these years...which is not the case.

...to be quite honest, your OP, especially that video, is somewhat disingenuous. Trying to make it sound like the GOP is the party of the saints, or something...when anyone with eyes to see with, and ears to hear with, can quickly come to other conclusions.

So, no. I'm not leaving.

walk away from both parties.

thing is the Republicans are worse than the Democrats, always have been.

Both are corporate parties that play towards different demographics.

Democrats are a corporate party, Republicans are an even bigger corporate party.

yeah run away from the Democrats if you are going to something better, not something worse.

a reply to: Metallicus

Well, and I'm completely with you there. To a certain degree. Ask a corporate oligarch how they managed to fck up this "Ownership has its responsibilities" run they had, it's baffling.

a reply to: dawnstar

but, when it comes to the voting booth, I just ain't a loyalist

Why would you be? You vote the person, or your opinion on the issue on the ballot before you.

As you, I'm a lifelong Democrat, who, if you've read my postings, has severe issues with the direction my party has gone. It left me, not me, it.

I'm cheerfully right of center, though on some issues, I'm decidedly left of center. That makes me a rare bird in Democratic circles...but, as with all things, that'll change...it has to. This mid-term may tell the tale of where the Democratic party, as a whole, goes from here. If they have some success, which historically speaking, the party out of power, generally does well in the mid-terms, they could decide to double down...which will mean disaster come 2020. If they lose, again, and I give it a 50-50 chance, more seats in Congress...they may, only may, have a wake up call, and realize where they're headed is political oblivion.

It used to be, that the Democratic party, at least rural portions of it, reflected many of the things I like. Not all, but many. That's changed. Since I haven't, unless it's to become even more entrenched, changed in my beliefs...the party has.

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I a reply to: pointessa

I feel as others that this is contrived, easy to find dissidents and make a mountain out of a mole hill. However, that said, I would not vote for either party last around and perhaps we need a moderate party that fits neither category, conservative or otherwise. And if I walk away again from the Democratic Party, I certainly would not embrace the republicans after seeing how timid inept and self serving or serving the wealthy they are and trump if like putting dog poop on top of all this as a topping.

a reply to: seagull

I’ve read a lot of the walk-away’s posts and replys. It doesn’t so much say let’s be republicans as let’s walk away from the bad actions, violence, shaming and bullying of many on the left. Just a mostly harmonious group of folks tired of being shamed and pushed around.

This appears to be originated and grown organically. I wish them well.

a reply to: whywhynot

Not saying that they shouldn't, if that's what suits them.

I just don't feel that way about it. Maybe unfinished business of some sort. A wish to be able to say something along the lines of...

"Welcome back, I've missed you."

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Lab4Us

I'm a registered democrat, my husband was a register republican, we figured that way, we, as a family unit would have a say in both party's primaries. but, when it comes to the voting booth, I just ain't a loyalist.. I've probably voted for just as many republicans as I have dems... the problem has become as of late, are there anyone on the ballot worth voting for? and well, if the answer seems to be no, I will either just not vote or do a write in if I can.

I’ve only wasted (I think) one vote on a third party (Ross Perot). Pretty much learned in that election that it was probably always going to be an R or a D, especially for POTUS. If I can’t see a clear positive of one candidate over the other, then I feel it’s incumbant on me to try and keep the most dangerous candidate (for the USA) out of office. That’s why I voted Trump. Didn’t really think he’d get as far as he has, but HRC would have been the end of America. I may not always have a clear cut choice, but I ALWAYS VOTE. As I hope many more than usual will do in the mid-terms!

a reply to: dawnstar

It's funny because Dem. Socialists is what majority of the 'left' haters are actually hating. Hillary's Dems. have been the main target because of Hilary. The fake news and misinformation is real, and it's working. Now are Democrats going to flock to an actual socialist platform?

a reply to: seagull

If the people of different political beliefs could have the civil discussion we just had there probably wouldn’t be a motivation to walk away.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: pointessa

Why?

If people like myself don't fix the problem, who, may I ask, will?

I'm a lifelong, sometimes annoyed, sometimes not, democrat. Have been since I was a supporter of Gary Hart at the state convention.

Though these days, I'm more an independent. One day, the democratic party will come back to me. I didn't leave it, it left me. For me to leave it, would somehow imply that I've been wrong all these years...which is not the case.

...to be quite honest, your OP, especially that video, is somewhat disingenuous. Trying to make it sound like the GOP is the party of the saints, or something...when anyone with eyes to see with, and ears to hear with, can quickly come to other conclusions.

So, no. I'm not leaving.

Since you addressed me personally, I will respond. You stated my OP is disingenous. I personally , never said a word about the GOP party. My concern is not that people become Republican, my concern is the harm that so called neo liberalism is doing to this country with its victim mentality, it's loyalty to illegal immigrants and indifference to the citizens of this country. I feel they have promoted division with the black community and law enforcement, have demeaned men in general, particularly whites, and left the inner cities to fall apart.

Liberal mainstream media is now no more than a snivel fest about what someone tweeted and how many are offended by it.

Personally, I am more of a libertarian and constitutionalist, but the movement of acknowledging our culture has become weak,divided and frankly, insane is liberating. If folks want to respond to that by joining the Republican party so be it... I am more concerned for our country in general than I am for which party someone belongs to...That's coming from a one time bleeding heart liberal. I believe the democratic party and the liberal MSM is responsible for most of the conflicts in our society today and it needs to stop.

a reply to: pointessa






This song has been running through my head whenever this topic comes up.




As to the topic, you can only sustain hatred and anger and vitriol for only so long before it burns you out.


It's exhausting hating so much, I think liberals are getting tired of it.

a lot of people in my circle say 'I didn't leave the democrat party, they left me'.

there is very little liberalism. the dems are dominated by leftist 'progressives' that want a huge micromanaging state (which they of course will run).

the problem is that few thousand leftists activists in the media. they have influence all out of proportion to their numbers and merit. people are still catching on to the fact that the media isn't interested in informing us, it only wants to propagandize us. outlets like Time and CNN have been left of center for years, but these days they're going full blown left-wing extremist.

I hope my fellow Americans will wake up.

Old topics are old:

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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: PublicOpinion

People like her will end up turning off more people.

I was considered a liberal back in college. I was for free speech, personal liberty and a Government not telling others what to do or how to live. Now those things are considered right wing for some damn reason.

This why people walk away.
I did.
Now my wife has.
And now my Mom.
When my Mom walks away...

UPDATE:

BREAKING: Founder of #WalkAway Campaign Brandon Straka ABUSED by Leftists at NYC Camera Shop

On Thursday, Brandon Straka went into a camera shop to purchase some new supplies when he was abused by leftists working there; they recognized him and refused him service.

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Brandon Straka tweeted: I’m shaking right now. I just went into a camera store to buy a camera and a light and mic, etc. and they recognized me from tv. I was refused service because they said it was for “alt right” purposes. That literally just happened.

Predictable.

a reply to: Lab4Us

The majority of America agrees with your take: 42% of Americans Identify as Independent in 2017