Socialism Takes Over America... Could it Happen?

a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

What are you smoking?

I want some, not because I think you're speaking the truth, but because it has to be some strong stuff to send you that much delusion.

a reply to: Edumakated

I'm sorry, money talks everything you post is BS. Contrary to your right wing delusional thinking, here are the raw facts:

Income inequality in the U.S. by state, metropolitan area, and county

Whether you have a TV or refrigerator is irrelevant if you are just one layoff away from losing your whole house.

a reply to: Edumakated

Examples of the egregious, hypocritical socialist leaning lefties... aside from Al Gore memes from the early 2000s, I mean?

FYI I agree with the essence of the post, as I know some wealthy "liberal" types who are stuck so far up their own backsides that they haven't had to eat for years, but(t) it's unsupported assertions ... like most of the "political dialogue" lately.

Take away lazy generalizations and we wouldn't have these dopamine producing team wars ... but at least these arguments produce something, even if dopamine won't feed or clothe!

a reply to: FamCore

Socialism will eventually overtake America. It is an infection that has already infiltrated our country.

The ultimate revenge on all the twinkies who want it will be that they'll be forced to live in it.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Don't worry, there is no socialism in site!



Americans are not going anywhere financially anytime soon:



Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers: Purchasing Power of the Consumer Dollar

The dollar is just not worth much anymore.

a reply to: FamCore

Well, can it be any worse than capitalism and the blatant lie that is the notion of a democratic process?

Pick any system of government you want, but don't think for one minute that anyone other than the people and organizations that fund said government via monies has any kind of real say or control.

Call it by any name you wish, capitalism, socialism, communism, monarchic rule, but in the end realize that it is simply window dressing for the masses.

a reply to: FamCore

The US is already a socialist construct, but one directed towards the wellbeing of corporate entities rather then natural/individual wellbeing.

How about hell no. No socialism. Period.

originally posted by: MissCoyote
How about hell no. No socialism. Period.

What do you hate most about socialism?

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: DBCowboy

Don't worry, there is no socialism in site!

Americans are not going anywhere financially anytime soon:

Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers: Purchasing Power of the Consumer Dollar

The dollar is just not worth much anymore.

You get far more for your money today than yesterday. While it is true the purchasing power of the dollar is lower, what is also true is the basket of goods is of exponentially higher quality as well.

You can buy a 4k TV for like $300 bucks. I remember when the only people who had pagers and cell phones were Doctors and drug dealers. Now middle schoolers have Iphones. I can watch TV on my cell phone...

Think about how much better computers, cars, cell phones, and other goods are relative to the 70s. From the Bill Whittle video which I am sure you didn't bother to watch, only 30% of homes had air conditioning in the 70s vs like 85% of homes do now (including poor people homes).

So while it may seem that the dollar doesn't go as far, the reality is that it goes further in that people today have far higher standards of living than those in the 70s. Poor people in the US today live better than rich people in the 70s.

a reply to: MissCoyote

How about hell no to bankers and politicians, period?

Solve all our problems in one fell swoop.

No, because the only true way a worker can control the means of production is if he starts his own business. When the state controls the means of production, there is no possibility of realizing socialism. The self-proclaimed socialists of today are strictly statist.

a reply to: dfnj2015

That's because socialism always has a ruling class. As poor as most Venezuelans are, the ruling class is doing very, very well. It was the same in the USSR and is the same in Cuba and China.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: dfnj2015

That's because socialism always has a ruling class. As poor as most Venezuelans are, the ruling class is doing very, very well. It was the same in the USSR and is the same in Cuba and China.

Interesting you should mention China - I've always been fascinated by oriental philosophies, and the Chinese, with a very
clever mixture of Socialism and Capitalism seem destined to, shall I say it?, rule the World.

Nonsense you say - But you see it happeining - Still technically a Communist country - And yet some people there are getting very rich, even a few billionaires. - Welcome to the New World Order

These right vs. left debates we always get into here are a joke - I suppose we should join the NWO and laugh along.

Face it - the old style capitalism and socialism are dead! Again welcome to the New World Order

Lol, a Hispanic beat a career politician in an area that has a huge latina majority. Hmmm a person who can actually form their own opinions through deductive reasoning would more than likely conclude this is a Norman and expected out comethat doesn’t really indicate anything. Or in rwnj alternate reality land. Omg hair n fire the socialist are coming the socialists are coming. I wonder what’s it like to go through life guided by superstition and fear.

a reply to: FamCore

Idk, do people disappear over social topics, or do they disappear because they didnt pay their debt to society for the Common and the Common greater good...which should be very common.

I heard the IRS or the CRA are like Nazis about it, and yet it, it straight to the Gulag.

Idk, u tell me!?

originally posted by: rickymouse
The type of socialism being pushed here is just a transfer of power to a group of unruly and pushy people who will blast anyone that does not follow along with their beliefs..

That sounds alot like a religion when you think about it. Religion does exactly the same thing, it is also a very cultish. (Which is what the far left are doing right now.)

Honestly, if people maintained morals, care, compassion and valued truth and freedom of speech, i believe true anarchy would be better than Socialism.

Keep in mind Anarchy does not mean chaos or "without rules". It is actually governed through Natural Law.



Now here is the Irony. We don't really need to change anything with regards to the U.S constitution. The reason I say this, is because if you understand what True anarchy is as the video above explains, then you also will see that the U.S constitution is actually an Anarchistic piece of document which grants people their freedom.

In other words, the United States is actually built on Anarchy because of its constitution. The paperwork is already in place. The System is there, but it hasn't been used since the founding fathers founded this country.

However the powers that be do not want you to know this. Because the real reality is that ALL men are free.

Welcome to the center.

As for socialism, it just does not work. The past has proven this to be the case.

However true Anarchy (Not the false version mainstream media promotes), has a higher potential of succeeding if those in power allowed it to grow.

Mark Passio Explains True Anarchy.

a reply to: SoulSurfer

Society structure is based off of belief, consensus of the time. It is similar to religion in some aspects. Many of the practices and beliefs in a society are incorrect but are the beliefs held by that society at the time.

a reply to: AlienView

You do realize that the closest approximation of what China is is a giant state/corporation ... right?

It's almost the essence of the corporatist kleptocracy that so many on this site claim to so hate.

Socialism will never take place in America. Not a chance. The elites will definately not allow it.

People mistake a large welfare state, or social safety net for Socialism. They aren't the same thing.

Socialism is when the entire economy, banks etc. are collectively controlled by the masses. Again it will never happen because the elites simply will not allow it.

Bernie Sanders and Ocasio Cortez will not bring about Socialism, in fact I dont think they are even paying lip service to Socialism. What they are doing is trying to increase the social safety net. Simply to give the people more bang for their taxes, which would include free health care and free post secondary education. The economy would STILL BE CONTROLLED BY THE OLIGARCHS.

So even if Sanders or Cortez implemented their policies, you would still be living under CAPITALISM, simply with a larger welfare and social program. Yes an improvement to what we have currently, but still not Socialism. It would be no different to many governments in Western Europe, again still Capitalist countries.

The elites are split along 2 methods of operation. The so called "left"/Democrats long ago figured out that Capitalism will destroy itself and be unsustainable unless the living standards of the working class are improved. This was determined during the great depression, and FDR brought forward "the new deal" or "welfare state" as the far right like to call it. FDR was not bringing about Socialism, he was SAVING CAPITALISM from itself by increasing the living standards of the plebs.

Now the far right/ Republicans are so backwards that they want to tear all of that down so that the billionaires can keep more of their money, and this only will lead to complete destruction of the capitalist sytem, which we are beginnning to see today. Once the middle and lower classes are destroyed THEY WILL REVOLT. They want to cause chaos.

The Deep State in America have been waging a 100 year black propaganda campaign against Socialism, because they were terrified of what happened to the elites in Russia during the Bolshevik revolution. Part of the way to stop Americans from revolting was to give them the luxouries of "the New Deal" which FDR implemented as a measure to passify the working classes and have them satisfied. Destroy the social safety net and you will only cause chaos, which is what Trump and the Deep State seem to want to do