"Police dog performs CPR on ‘collapsed’ officer"

"Police dog performs CPR on ‘collapsed’ officer" or whatever "news", "CPR", or "Science" calls it this day


Dogs doing CPR? Don’t think so, lets be real here.

Circus tricks more like it.
I’m probably going to get a bit of flack from some dog lovers (disclosure we have 2 dogs )
In the days of tweets millions of views and good feels passes for facts/truth

They banned circus's from using wild animals a few years ago but at dog shows "sheep" are allowed to sit and be entertained.

If you’re going to defend this at least bring some logic or even half baked science to the table.


www.news.com.au...

“Police dog performs CPR on ‘collapsed’ officer POUNDING his paws on the officer’s chest and nuzzling his neck to find a pulse, this lifesaving police dog has taken the internet by storm.”

A SPANISH police dog called Poncho is taking the internet by storm with his incredible lifesaving skills.

Poncho has been trained to perform CPR by the Municipal Police of Madrid who showcased his skills in a video shared on Twitter that has been viewed more than two millions times.

In the footage, a police officer pretends to collapse. Poncho, who has a blue police light strapped to his back, runs over to the seemingly lifeless official

The dog then jumps repeatedly on his chest, and nestles his head into the officer’s neck in an apparent attempt to check his pulse.

The Police of Madrid praised Poncho in the tweet for not hesitating to “save the life” of the agent

The technique works by keeping blood flowing in the body, and can give someone whose heart has stopped beating precious time while they await the arrival of trained medical staff

Last year a Belgian Shepherd made headlines after he performed CPR on his owner, Lusy Imbergerova, for prestigious UK dog show Crufts

Ms Imbergerova trained the dog, named Deril, to jump on her chest, earning rapturous applause from the audience.

"praises Poncho", yep, lets leave logic at the door - why let science get in the way of a feel good story.


www.thesun.co.uk...

THIS was the incredible moment a clever canine performed CPR on his handler and gave her the "kiss of life" at Crufts yesterday. Talented pair Deril and Lusy Imbergova, who starred on Italy's Got Talent, held an amazing four-minute military-themed routine at the world's largest dog show

Yeah they starred on "Italys got talent" says it all right there.


@2:43
Lusy Imbergerova & Deril amaze crowds




How to actually perform CPR




Alpine dogs with whiskey barrel on rescue patrol

(maybe they didnt know at the time that alcohol actually kills you faster during hyperthermia)




“The Keg Collar May Have Just Been an Artistic Choice”

www.petful.com...

But lo, another theory appears!
In 1820, Sir Edwin Henry Landseer, a prolific painter of animals after whom a dog breed was actually named, created an image of 2 Saint Bernards saving a traveler in the Great Saint Bernard Pass. One dog was painted with a keg on his collar while the other stood over the fallen man

agreed, I think this is pretty stupid and adds to the misconceptions about cpr.
its not like in the movies and a dog certainly cant do it.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Dog shows are kind of ridiculous but...anyone that thinks that was a dog doing CPR probably already doesn't understand what it is. Meh looks like just another dog trick to me. Chest compressions are supposed to be timed as far as I remember but it's been a while since I had first aid training. They still taught breaths when I learned but as far as I know they no longer recommend that...though i'm not sure.

a reply to: Rikku

Thank you - what I find disconcerting is dog lovers or the general public making these sort of stories into "good feelz"
Further dumbing themselves down.

I get that within Police departments there would be rivalry and pleas for increased funding. Perception and the visuals would go a long way in getting kudos and $ for the K9 divisions.


As an animal lover this brings emotions swelling up

Are you serious ? You know that first off the officer was pretending and that they had trained that cute little puppy to jump up and down on him pretending to provide CPR. It was just for fun and to have fun with their training.

It was a First Aid training event at a school. As part of the event, Poncho, a cocker spaniel "demonstrated" to the audience how to perform CPR. He is in reality an explosives detecting dog but often goes to school events. The trainers provided CPR training to both staff and faculty.

More examples of TPTB/media propagating ignorance into the dimly lit minds of the masses.
More Brawndo mentality sh!t.

a reply to: dug88

Yes just another dog trick.
I didn't even bother talking about the chest compressions timings as the video I posted explained that.

Apparently they still do timed ventilations according to wiki.

a reply to: DJMSN

Am I serious about what? Read my whole OP in context then we can have a discussion about animals being used for "circus tricks"

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

The article you linked too, which is broken for me is TOUNGE IN CHEEK. The officers were at a school and teaching CPR to the students and staff. No one actually believed the dog able to perform CPR, they just trained the little dog to perform a trick, nothing wrong with it since it helps people pay attention ad learn. He is actually a highly trained bomb sniffing dog.

a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

hmm...had to look up Brawndo...ok

bread and circuses wiki
A phrase used by a Roman writer to deplore the declining heroism of Romans after the Roman Republic ceased to exist and the Roman Empire began: “Two things only the people anxiously desire — bread and circuses.” The government kept the Roman populace happy by distributing free food and staging huge spectacles.

Nostalgia for the Tower of Babel

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

hmm...had to look up Brawndo...ok

Yep. It's got electrolytes.

-dex

a reply to: DJMSN

So you edited your original post ( this ) to make it look like you paid attention initially, after you put up the explanation 3 posts further down in response to my post.

Classic

First Aid training event at a school

Any links? Looks more like an arena with an adult crowd cheering on.

The Police of Madrid praised Poncho in the tweet for not hesitating to “save the life” of the agent

How about we talk about dumbing down the masses?

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight
It's a dangerous trick for sure.
Looks like those dogs were jumping a little to close to
the xiphoid process of their humans.

To quote wikipedia:
"Pressure on the xiphoid process should be avoided when administering
chest compressions in CPR, as this can cause the xiphoid process to break off,
resulting in punctures or lacerations of the diaphragm. Additionally, the liver
may be punctured, resulting in lethal hemorrhaging."

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

I read your whole post the first time, it really makes no sense. You apparently believe that authorities are claiming the dog is actually performing CPR. You are off on a tangent about circus tricks when In reality it is a highly trained bomb sniffing dog having fun with his daily handler who taught him a trick so he can help entertain children and school staff while they learn about CPR.

You apparently believe the article which is tongue in cheek sarcastic, you apparently became part of the dumbed down masses when you actually believed the dog was doing CPR, with you talk about chest compressions and timed ventilation. Here is one of many links.

www.wthr.com...

The article starts with this in addition to their headline:

MADRID (WTHR) — In a mock situation, a police dog "saves" the life of an agent by performing CPR.

Here's another one:

www.google.com...

While Poncho is great at mimicking what CPR looks like, he does not actually use this life-saving skill on people in need. The Cocker Spaniel is brought along to these events as a fun way to engage kids in the audience. Poncho’s day job is to detect explosives for the police.

You assumed wrongly due to an article written tongue in cheek, was meant to convey the dog was actually performing CPR when the dog is simply at a safety event at a local school and does a cute fun trick with his owner to help keep kids interested

According to CBS News, this impressive clip, which has been viewed over 2 million times, was filmed at a first aid awareness event at a school in Spain.

Talk about Deny Ignorance...i cannot believe this went beyond what it's intent was. It sure accomplished what you point out more than once, dumbing down the masses if a party of one constitutes the masses now days.

My favorite part was when the dog tried to pee on her. My second favorite part was how hot that chick was. My third favorite part was the dance the dog did mid-cpr. But maybe my mind is just too simple.

ETA: My life was saved 14 months ago because of CPR. Somehow I don't think the dog could've pulled it off. But he definitely would've helped in my recovery if he tried doing in rehabilitation, just for the aww factor. Cute.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

I agree. This is all show. There is no way that a dog is going to compress the ribcage and pump a human heart under all that bone and muscle.

Checking for a pulse? Yeah. How did they test his aptitude with rhythm and breaths?

Then the breathing....dogs have a snout. Just no.

It's baffling to me that y'all are even debating the legitimacy of a dog doing CPR. Of course it's asinine. There's no question. Maybe... Just maybe in some extremely rare circumstance it might help, but that's about as probable as winning the lottery three times consecutively.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: dug88

Yes just another dog trick.
I didn't even bother talking about the chest compressions timings as the video I posted explained that.

Apparently they still do timed ventilations according to wiki.

Yeah... a dog jumping on a chest is a lot different from timed, precise chest compressions. If that cop wasn't wearing padding and armor, I bet he wishes he had by now.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

The only thing I would say about the IDEA of a dog performing CPR, is that I only want to hear about it when the dog successfully brings someone back who HAS, in fact collapsed and could benefit from some compressions. I do not want to hear about what they did in training, unless the training went something like "Ok fellas, here's how it is. Evans is down, over there in the bushes having some kind of episode. Send the pooch in to rescue him, and we will see whether Evans makes it. If he does, your dog passes the training. Fair enough? Ok, GO!".

Otherwise, the most use this dog would be in that scenario, is to carry the light so that someone who is actually capable of administering CPR, can find the downed individual more easily.

I am a dog lover and know that dogs know more about us than we give them credit for but in this case yeah no no dog is going to be able perform controlled chest compression I’m CPR and AED certified by the Red Cross and anyone who knows real CPR knows that proper chest compression most of the time the person getting CPR is going to end up with broken ribs, in fact there have been some sad souls that tried to sue the person that saved their life due to them suffering broken ribs as a result out on the west coast. Luckily here in a halfway sane state you have Good Samaritan Lwas in place to help protect from a litigious ungrateful asshat from trying to sue you.

Now saying a dog is trying to keep the person alert and awake to prevent shock is one thing I have personally woke up from a granmall seizure with my English Bulldog on my chest (she’s sadly gone but not forgotten I never loved a dog as much as that bully I have a tribute portrait tattoo of her on my arm) I was on the couch at home laying down cooling off after full pads football practice is 115 degree weather. All of the sudden I came to on the ground and my bully was standing on my chest nudging her face against mine and you could see she was freaked out by the situation my dad had to grab her and let her in her crate because she wouldn’t keep from getting back on my chest, it’s an interesting thing to come to with 50punds of English Bulldog on your chest.