Nikki Haley: 'Ridiculous' for UN to analyze poverty in America

a reply to: eNumbra

Nikki is right. It's like focusing on a splinter rather than cancer. There are much bigger fish to fry. The UN is worthless.

I’ve worked on relevant UN work, and grad studies.

There are different branches and agencies of the UN, addressing virtually any topic you can imagine.

For example, the security branch such as with the Security Council deals with different material and reports than the international development end, which is what this kind of report would come from.

Also, I often find that people like yourself who are so vitriolic aren’t very educated on these topics nor international affairs and development.

a reply to: openyourmind1262

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: eNumbra

Nikki is right. It's like focusing on a splinter rather than cancer. There are much bigger fish to fry. The UN is worthless.

If you read the article it seems the UN attempts to address the cancer and its cause; its Ms. Haley who’s waving her hands, and stating it’s just a normal cough and the UN is making out worse than it is.

Why is everyone so concerned with how much people make, how much people save?

It's up to the individual and not the nation/state to determine what you earn.

Class envy and a cry for socialism is what this sounds like.


And I base that predicated on the "solutions" for this issue.

a reply to: eNumbra

I did read it. The UN's worthless eye is better served being turned elsewhere, you know, the places where true poverty exists and real abuses happen. They should focus their attention on developing nation. Not that I disagree with the findings, Dem and Rep both keep the status quo going and neither party could care less about the American people.

a reply to: introvert

But his father didn't. Guess what I'm gonna do with my money and the wealth I've accumulated over the years...…..I'm gonna leave it to my children.....Duh.

a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

News flash....I could give a fat rats behind that you work or say you worked at the U.N. it means zero to me. I trust my own opinion. The U.N is an un needed institution and a ginormous waste of money to the tax payers of the USA.

a reply to: introvert

I bet there's plenty of then trust fund babies you mention...in all the other countries the U.N. deals with...ya think?

originally posted by: openyourmind1262
a reply to: introvert

But his father didn't. Guess what I'm gonna do with my money and the wealth I've accumulated over the years...…..I'm gonna leave it to my children.....Duh.

That's cool. Still contradicts what you said earlier:

only those of us who WORK OUR ARSE"S OFF DO.

It appears you are admitting the opposite.

You can get wealthy while doing absolutely nothing, other than being the child of someone wealthy.

originally posted by: openyourmind1262
a reply to: introvert

I bet there's plenty of then trust fund babies you mention...in all the other countries the U.N. deals with...ya think?

Irrelevant to my point.

You made an absolutely ignorant statement and even contradicted yourself.

originally posted by: openyourmind1262
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
. it means zero to me. I trust my own opinion.

This must be the least surprising statement of the century: Facts, findings, and studies < an opinion

originally posted by: openyourmind1262
a reply to: eNumbra

No the U.N. Is the topic and I am on point. If you are poor in America it's your own damn fault. Period the end. Work hard, do the right thing and good things come from it. Sitting around bitching about what others have is just a big old waste of time...….we all aren't entitled to be wealthy only those of us who WORK OUR ARSE"S OFF DO.

Clearly living in your little bubble has blinded you to reality.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: eNumbra

I did read it. The UN's worthless eye is better served being turned elsewhere, you know, the places where true poverty exists and real abuses happen. They should focus their attention on developing nation. Not that I disagree with the findings, Dem and Rep both keep the status quo going and neither party could care less about the American people.

Poverty in America doesn’t become irrelevant because there’s worse poverty elsewhere, the UN shouldn’t ignore an issue in one country because it’s worse in another.

a reply to: eNumbra

I accept America for what it is...not what I wish it to be. Pissing and moaning about being poor is as old as dirt. Also, never have I ever said " poor people were lazy". Nope never came out my mouth. Sitting around and wasting your time concerning yourself with wealth and being pissed off others have it and you don't, should make you want it even more. The U.N should take MY TAX DOLLARS and see that the UNDER DEVELPOED nations (there are to many to mention) Gets a bigger piece of the U.N. pie. You know real things like, water, food, shelter, medical supplies...…..Nope they gonna worry about something that's a big waste of money & time & resources. They may have been a time when the U.N. was a good thing, but thru the years their roll has blossomed into something it was never intended to be.


All countries have poor people, we are no different than those countries only in the respect is that here you have a much better chance of pulling yourself out of poverty. I used to be poor. Beans & taters every day when I was a kid....never knew I was poor till someone told me I was. I am not poor anymore. I am by far as rich as some, and way down the ladder from others...… I'm rich in more things than money. Friends, family...….way damn more important than money. Never meant to piss people off this morning, I simply get sick & tired of people whining others got more than them. Stop pissing & moaning and do something about it.

Ha, and now this:
Harley-Davidson: Trump's tariffs pose grave threat to famous American name

Even Harley-Davidson Can’t Resist the Tug of Overseas Factories

Some more former "U"S jobs say:
Bye bye Trump-"U"SA.

And say hello to Thailand, Brazil and India.

Well done, Donald of all Donalds.

Läuft, as we say in Germany.

But hey, it´s all for the workers, the left behind and poor people, it´s all for the "U"SA stupid, finally understand that!

Gratulations!

a reply to: openyourmind1262

Do you have any idea how many hard working Americans you just insulted sir?

Do you even remember 2008? People lost their houses, and any hope of a job, had their cars taken from them, got left in a position where they could not even afford to move to find work elsewhere, by the most serious financial collapse since the thirties. They built themselves cities, they worked their heads off to get their shanty town set up and working right. I am willing to bet that the residents of those tent cities work harder than the boss of Citibank or HSBC ever has.

Do these examinations take into account the keeping up with the jones problem in the country?

Just went through all the out briefs for leaving active duty, and the lady that had been assessing the wifes readiness to reenter the civilian world was stunned that we had nearly 30k readily available cash.


She had been doing this for 4 years and we were 1 of 4 that had a significant amount of savings they could easily access, she primarily dealt with senior enlisted and officers.

We have people that buy a new car because they can at the moment, we have people that buy a car way outside their means, we have people that buy big houses because the bank will give them a 30 yr at nice fat interest rate.

Yes pay is part of the equation but a complete and total lack of self restraint is also part of the problem.

eta: I brought up the military because supposedly the senior people are some of the highest educated and trained people in our country that cannot seem to manage their money. If these people have self restraint problems what about people that spend more time high than clean, or drunk than sober, or grew up under high voltage power lines, or ate lead paint as a kid.

things have been nice when she was quite

she has a way of ramping up anger

originally posted by: eNumbra



According to the report 40% of Americans don’t even have $400 in their savings for an emergency, and nothing changes, wealth disparity grows while wages are stagnant as we hurdle towards an automation revolution that threatens to eliminate massive deaths of the needed labor force in all areas.

Welcome to a consumer based society on steroids. The interesting part is back in the 70s, 80s and part of the 90s I lived pay check to pay check too until I reached a point that I made more money than I needed to live on, so please tell me what has changed other than today we tend to spend more and more.

If you make 50k, 100k, 200k, a million a year and you spend all your money you are still part of low end of your so called "wealth gap". At some point people need to save and not spend, but for the way our society is right now that is not what people want to do.

A person who has lets say 10 million in investments, will continue to earn on their investments year after year ever increasing your "wealth gap" so one side does not save that many times is due to their own preferences to spend and the other side has continuous growth because they have money they do not use outside of investments.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: openyourmind1262


Do you even remember 2008? People lost their houses, and any hope of a job, had their cars taken from them, got left in a position where they could not even afford to move to find work elsewhere, by the most serious financial collapse since the thirties. They built themselves cities, they worked their heads off to get their shanty town set up and working right. I am willing to bet that the residents of those tent cities work harder than the boss of Citibank or HSBC ever has.

I don't remember any shanty towns, houses were loss later too as the bubble hit, but I know many who lived in their house basically for free up to two years until they just walked away from it. The homeless rates have been about the same, BUT yes times were hard as people loss their good paying job to fight for a position at McD. What else didn't help was the cost of living went up drastically, so those that were still getting by felt the pain too.

The real pain was that Obama really didn't fix things and we floundered on for most of his administration. Bush, Clinton and Reagan all entered office in a recession, but the difference was they got theirs under control within the first 1 1/2 years.