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Necessary to crown shotgun barrel?

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posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 01:47 AM
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Got one of those $99 single shot 12ga Hatfield shotguns from walmart and am looking to turn it into a pack gun to take anywhere. Will be doing similar things as this guy...
mywoodlandgear.com...
I also plan on putting one of those 5inch 12ga to 22lr adapters in the stock as well. I plan on cutting the barrel down to 19in with a hacksaw so it is still legal, but lighter, smaller, and will be of even size when folded. Ive seen several people say to crown shotgun barrels but all of my shotguns barrels have a flat end and no recessed crown, which makes sense. Whats the deal?



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 03:29 AM
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I never “crown” shot gun barrels when cutting them down I just do the cut with a metal chop saw to make sure the cut is square and then I use a Dremel with a stone grinding bit and clean up any burrs and funky spots and put a very conservative champfer on the inside of the barrel mainly just for appearances before I blue the end of the barrel. This weekend I’ve got 3 870 barrels to clean up and blue two of them I’m threading for chokes. Really not a complicated job it’s no precision rifle with a perfect crown. Hope that helps.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 03:34 AM
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a reply to: BigDave-AR

Thank you!
Exactly what i was hoping to hear.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 03:56 AM
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originally posted by: Whoisjohngalt
a reply to: BigDave-AR

Thank you!
Exactly what i was hoping to hear.

No problem glad to help! I keep threatening to buy one of those just for the heck of it would go good next to my breakdown 10/22 in my saddle bags.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 04:05 AM
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a reply to: BigDave-AR

Its a good gun for the price. Its light and its something you dont have to worry about scratching



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 04:17 AM
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There’s few guns in my collection that I worry about scratching and they’re special to get that treatment any of my regularly used I fret not about the finish I have a Springfield XD subcompact .40 that’s coming up on around 6k rounds through it and it looks like hell even had a GF’s dog chew on the polymer frame eventually I will reblue the barrel and slide but for now “I wear the wear” with pride. Now my P08 Luger I hardly shoot and am uber protective of it’s a family WW2 bringback heirloom.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 05:18 AM
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a reply to: Whoisjohngalt

Way to waste some money dude. You may get a year out of that at best.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 05:47 AM
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a reply to: Allaroundyou

What happened to yours?



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 06:01 AM
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a reply to: Whoisjohngalt

Never got one. But from my friend that did said the up keep is not worth it.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 06:18 AM
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a reply to: Allaroundyou

Upkeep for a break action shotgun?
This is going to be something i keep on a hiking pack getting knocked on branches and scratched. I dont care how it looks. I dont want it to explode, or banana peel, and to go bang every time and send #8, 000,brenneke slugs, and flares, safely in a direction



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 06:28 AM
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a reply to: BigDave-AR

Hi!

Iam curious, why do you blue the barrels?
Blueing, its when you heat the metal so those oily blue colours appear yes?

Thanks



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 08:09 AM
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a reply to: Allaroundyou

you obviously dont know guns



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 10:09 AM
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originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: Allaroundyou

you obviously dont know guns


I do not own a shotgun and have shot one a few times. I know my three guns that I keep in my house and I know my bows even better. I am not a expert when it comes to guns. That is not to say that I do not know anything about guns. But shotguns I know little about.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: Nivek555
a reply to: BigDave-AR

Hi!

Iam curious, why do you blue the barrels?
Blueing, its when you heat the metal so those oily blue colours appear yes?

Thanks



Ummm...no...the bluing he's talking about is a chemical anticorrosive treatment...





YouSir



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 12:09 PM
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a reply to: Whoisjohngalt
Crowning is for rifle barrels to improve accuracy.

I would spend the extra money and have a gunsmith shorten the barrel and thread the end for screw in chokes. The spread on the pattern without the choke on a cut down barrel may make it next to useless.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: Nivek555
a reply to: BigDave-AR

Hi!

Iam curious, why do you blue the barrels?
Blueing, its when you heat the metal so those oily blue colours appear yes?

Thanks

I believe you are referring to ‘case hardening’.



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 04:21 PM
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a reply to: Allaroundyou

I am still interested in knowing about your friends experience. Maybe i can head off whatever problems they had
edit on 22-6-2018 by Whoisjohngalt because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 04:27 PM
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a reply to: butcherguy

Thanks guys!

I had to wiki it to get my head around it.

I get learnt with ATS everyday






posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 04:38 PM
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originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Whoisjohngalt
Crowning is for rifle barrels to improve accuracy.

I would spend the extra money and have a gunsmith shorten the barrel and thread the end for screw in chokes. The spread on the pattern without the choke on a cut down barrel may make it next to useless.


I had read someones experience after cutting down the 12ga to a length that I want.
www.survivalistboards.com...#/topics/600369?page=1
Since the choke is fixed, they said that at 28" the choke was modified and at 19" the choke was still improved

Unless i really botch the cut, id say accuracy shouldnt be too bad. I have two other shotguns with 20in cylinder bore barrels that can bust clays decently.

Plus i have no money to pay a gunsmith



posted on Jun, 22 2018 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: Whoisjohngalt

Understood about $.
Good luck with the project!



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