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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

What part of the Flores Settlement stipulates that children be removed from their parents' at the border?

a reply to: Plotus

Most of the people trying to come through the border are asylum seekers, not economic migrants. Furthermore most of the economic migrants coming through the border are coming to do jobs that Americans don't want.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Plotus

Most of the people trying to come through the border are asylum seekers, not economic migrants. Furthermore most of the economic migrants coming through the border are coming to do jobs that Americans don't want.

Then who is bringing in all the narcotics and drugs that the US government keeps banging on about (for the past 25 years since the 'war on drugs' started) as having reached epic proportions on the southern border such that it needs securing?

nobody care anymore, if you are one of these outrage queens get a life

go do something with yourself like go to a park or a gym or something

Maybe we should build a wall, if no one can get in by illegally sneaking across the border in the middle of the night, then no children will be separated from their families.

originally posted by: Whoisjohngalt
Someone who used to be associated with trump was a jackass. And now its the top story.
*sigh*

He's currently employed by Mike Pence's Super PAC. That's a pretty close tie to the Trump administration.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Plotus

Most of the economic migrants coming through the border are coming to do jobs that Americans don't want.

There's no such thing as "jobs Americans don't want". What most Americans want is simply an honest days pay for an honest day's work. The issue is that with virtually stagnant wages for the past 30+ years, most corporations and businesses have forgotten what an honest day's pay is (in favor of ever more bloated bloated golden parachutes, bonuses, and salaries for executives and CEOs).

originally posted by: caterpillage
Maybe we should build a wall, if no one can get in by illegally sneaking across the border in the middle of the night, then no children will be separated from their families.

Yeah! A wall!

Let's just hope no one tells them about technologies like ladders and shovels, or that wall could be a YUGE waste of money.

a reply to: redmage

Dunno man....avocados are currently beginning to rot in the field. Im not seeing a big rush of city living Americans to take those jobs. Country folks are already employed...or we couldn't live int he country.

I remember as a kid that the only americans that would work the fields were people associated with folks from mexico somehow. My wife used to play at the end of the rows with her little sister back when she was a little kid. Once she turned 7 my MIL let her start helping, too. Any help at all was needed working the fields to get paid by the pound. My wife's family has been born in Texas for generations prior to annexation.

a reply to: SailorJerry

Your post is getting a lot of stars because you and others think there is a CIVIL WAR in the USA, right NOW?


There is no goddamn Civil War happening right now in the USA. Use your head!

There are babies and children screaming and crying in secret facilities in Texas. 1000's of them.

Who cares about that? You're lazy and only care about your TELEVISION.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Nothing says they "must".

what it says is that children and adults cannot be housed together, and that as soon as we can we will release the kids to family or the appropriate agency.

So what about the kids without parents that show up with coyotes? Or completely alone?

www.motherjones.com...

how to handle the tens of thousands of kids who end up caught by the Border Patrol. Those coming from Mexico are taken straight back across. The rest are referred to the Department of Health and Human Services’ Office of Refugee Resettlement (rather than being put in immigration detention with adults) and placed in temporary shelters while their deportation proceedings get under way.

That is from 2014, prior to the "caravan" that was reported. Its amazing at how rational the discussion was at this point, and we are talking about the exact. same. thing.

And how come, when given the choice to go back or enter into custody, they choose to enter into custody?

a reply to: game over man

prove it.

a reply to: Whoisjohngalt

Wrong!!!!! Where are all the babies, toddlers, and children held in JAIL in the US?

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: redmage

Dunno man....avocados are currently beginning to rot in the field. Im not seeing a big rush of city living Americans to take those jobs. Country folks are already employed...or we couldn't live int he country.

What does the job pay? What most Americans want is simply an honest days pay for an honest day's work. My guess is that the job doesn't pay well enough to "cover the rent". Heaven forbid that avocado-obsessed Californians have to pay a price that would allow hard working Americans to cover their own basic living expenses.

I live in the middle of detasseling country. Every summer there's no shortage of American high-school and college kids looking for summer jobs, and willing to contract a few acres so that they and their friends can afford to focus on school for the rest of the year, or to get their first car.

If you pay them honestly, they will come. If you're paying peanuts, the avocados will rot in the fields.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

So it's a secret to the world? You prove it. There is no Civil War in the US. Who is battling and in what State? Why are there no pictures or video? Are you a right wing terrorist?

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Whoisjohngalt

First off, why are the parents being arrested in the first place? Crossing the border without documentation is a misdemeanor, not a felony.

Why not keep doing what we've been doing? Keep families together and hold them in family residential centers until they can be processed.

We just can't seem to get a straight answer to this very obvious question, can we?

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: redmage

Dunno man....avocados are currently beginning to rot in the field. Im not seeing a big rush of city living Americans to take those jobs. Country folks are already employed...or we couldn't live int he country.

I remember as a kid that the only americans that would work the fields were people associated with folks from mexico somehow. My wife used to play at the end of the rows with her little sister back when she was a little kid. Once she turned 7 my MIL let her start helping, too. Any help at all was needed working the fields to get paid by the pound. My wife's family has been born in Texas for generations prior to annexation.

Good. Let them rot. Thats the free market. If no one wants to farm avocados for wages offered, then raise wages and costs. Or dont eat avocados.