Listen to children who’ve just been separated from their parents at the border

a reply to: Willtell

If the Parents set a 'good example' for their Children in the first place, they wouldn't be in this situation to begin with. What lessons are those Illegals teaching their kids?

1. It's ok to Disobey the Law
2. It's ok to lie about your status
3. Then Scream about it when you're caught even though you're clearly in the Wrong
4. And if you don't get caught? Get a fake ID card and steal money from tax paying Americans


Not very good guidelines to teach your kid is it?

a reply to: BotheLumberJack

It's the American way!

a reply to: JinMI

ha!

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: Sublimecraft

You're ignorant

And don’t know what you're talking about …YOUR WRONG

THEY DO HAVE RIGHTS UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.

Show me in the Constitution where a non-US citizen, not on US soil, is protected under the US constitution?

I'll wait. (I hope you reread my post too - especially the part where I suggested you 'repeat after me')

The easier and humane thing to do all around is to send them all home as a family, "Hi, nice to meet you all. Bye now, go back from where thou cameth."

Splitting kids from their families, especially really young ones, because you think you're being "tough" on something only serves to create foundations for serious mental problems later, and solidify backlash. And those of us who've been insulted by and pissed about this tactic since it's inception don't give a rat's ass about who's driving the country when, fact of the matter is this policy still exists and people still think it's ok. The f# is it, you knuckle dragging animals.

a reply to: Willtell

I am ashamed of being an American today.

Sweetheart, you've been ashamed of being an American for a long time.

Don't let this little propaganda piece by your owners give you an excuse to say it on this forum.

These kids are treated a whole lot better right than they have been living before.

Can you please make an OP about the millions of American children that are in the system right now because their parent is in jail?

Oh snap... that would BE a citizen so it doesn't matter.

2,000 kids that are detained... they have trips to the zoo, have mental health professionals and doctors there, etc, etc ad nauseum.

Meanwhile, 22 American vets committed suicide today.

Screw them though... we need to feed and clothe and house and pay for more illegal aliens!!!!



ETA.. why would you have an issue with "ripping the child from it's mother" when you have no problem with abortion... you know, "ripping the child from it's mother."

One is 20 days in a play camp... the other a death sentence.

But... the children!!!!

/faceplam

a reply to: Sublimecraft

nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: pavil

So you’re blaming Obama for what goes on in Central America?


Does that make a lot of sense?

Sure does, his catch and release is what' driving it all.

I think there should be a media blitz by DHS and ICE and the US govt to south america and spread the word.

With that cage kids pic and this song in spanish.

originally posted by: Lumenari
Meanwhile, 22 American vets committed suicide today.

Screw them though... we need to feed and clothe and house and pay for more illegal aliens!!!!

Is detaining the parents and housing the kids in camps really cheaper than just sending them back as soon as they're caught? Speaking of the STFU icon.

a reply to: Prisoner60863

I'm not debating if they are innocent or not. I'm not debating if they are illegal or not. All I ask is why separate the family

Yes it is unfortunate. I will agree to that. It also raises concerns and questions about what type of parent would put their kids in a situation for that to happen. It was ultimately the parents responsibility. But, that doesn't make it any less sad. I get that. We have laws as a nation that have been put into place to deal with the yucky underbelly of what goes on in society.
I believe we first must change our own nation for the better while it is easier, than to wait for the problem to get bigger. That has been put on hold for the past 50 years. Will Trump change it? I don't know. I think he will focus on what he considers other important issues.
Let me ask you a question?
Do you think that if Trump put an end to the child/parent separation would that gain him any votes from the left during the next election?

originally posted by: Willtell
It’s amazing that many conservative Republicans are coming out against Trump barbarism


We tried to tell you he is a barbarian and prone to uncivilized actions like this

Trump, believe me, will do worse if they let him. He would commit genocide if he had the opportunity.

Can't wait till you guys come up with the sweatshop angle.

Making munitions for the US military!

originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: Sublimecraft

nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Does this clause apply to non-US citizens not on US soil? (ie: other countries' citizens who reside in those countries)

If so, then it should be renamed "The Constitution of Earth" as it applies to all humans regardless of legal status or geographical location.

???

originally posted by: Sublimecraft

originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: Sublimecraft

nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Does this clause apply to non-US citizens not on US soil? (ie: other countries' citizens who reside in those countries)

If so, then it should be renamed "The Constitution of Earth" as it applies to all humans regardless of legal status or geographical location.

???

What does "any person within its jurisdiction" mean?

Here's a good read for you.
www.politifact.com...

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: Willtell

"Her husband" agrees with her.

This is not a Trump policy. This is the law. This law was in place before Trump became President.
If Congress changes the law, then things will get better. Trump wants Congress to act. He does not like the situation either.

That is a lie

THIS IS NOT THE LAW!

Trump doesn't have to do this.

It could be stopped with one phone call from him

what the hell is wrong with you?

Is he or is he not a dictator?

a reply to: Willtell

Boo Freakin' Hoo , All their Parents are Guilty of Child Abuse , but in Meck He Ho that's Not a Crime. Guilt Trip Much ?

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: Sublimecraft

You're ignorant

And don’t know what you're talking about …YOUR WRONG

THEY DO HAVE RIGHTS UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.

That’s why they have trials, for instance, its called DUE PROCESS

They don’t have the same rights that citizens do but they do have rights

Unlike the barbarian Trump,the founders weren’t barbarians

Only Trump and his followers are barbaric enough to convict people without trials
go back to school and learn something

They also owned slaves idiot.

or were you out sick that day.

They are getting due process, just don't have bail money.

Sorry.

a reply to: Willtell

'objective reality' is a tale told by Vladimir Putin.

Dude Idk , They line up kids when they need them. Basically it comes down to cheap trump bashing. Trump a 'Nazi' bla bla. or another guy in this thread 'trump will commit genocide'. A while ago I really believed this stuff. Listen long to the MSM and you get MindEFFED.

Trump not a saint , and many things are wrong but moving in right direction. Democrats don't like it so bring out the kids so cry me a river lets say the rio grande. Or if you like 'Slyozi voda.' for everyone.

Stop pretending that you care, you certainly aren't convincing me.

Your threads are just propaganda and Nazi accusations at this point.

But if you do want to do something, then I challenge you to do something other than write threads about it and get back to us.

originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: Sublimecraft

originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: Sublimecraft

nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Does this clause apply to non-US citizens not on US soil? (ie: other countries' citizens who reside in those countries)

If so, then it should be renamed "The Constitution of Earth" as it applies to all humans regardless of legal status or geographical location.

???

What does "any person within its jurisdiction" mean?

Here's a good read for you.
www.politifact.com...

I'm going to continue to ask you the same question as you haven't answered it because you keep linking to situations where non-US citizens are on US soil - ie: "an undocumented immigrant" implies that that person is on US soil (jurisdiction)

Again..........

"Show me in the Constitution where a non-US citizen, not on US soil, is protected under the US constitution?

Key words: NOT.ON.US.SOIL

a reply to: Sublimecraft

And I'll continue to repeat the part of the 14th amendment so it will finally dawn on you.
"any person within its jurisdiction".
What does "any person" mean?

Maybe they should change it to "only U.S. citizens within its jurisdiction".