American Medical Association Calls for Confiscation of Guns, Universal Firearm Registration

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: infolurker

Because the sensible solution is to arm doctors, amirite?

The hospital I work at has armed guards/campus police. Many hospitals have an actual police force stationed in the hospital.

Andthat's where they send the ones unfit for street beat. One I grew up with, crazy bstard (had his guns taken away for like a year when we younger) got accepted into the force later on, in a big Crazy city, after he pistol whipped somebody at a traffic stop they put him there 'where he culdnt get in as much trouble'. THen he got fired from even that, and last I heard he's working Corrections (where all good psycho's make up the ranks).

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
So when Doctors start saying take away our armed guards I will give their proclamations more value when it comes to defense.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Before you go pigeon holing corrections officers, it might help if you knew a bit more about what you're talking about.

a reply to: seagull

So then Corrections isnt the number one job scene that inherently draws sadistic bully types that like to subjugate and beat people?

I guess that would be the Police then?

Or is it the Military?

Funny how increasingly there's less and less distinction between that trifecta, eh?

Anyways, next time they axe you if you own any guns tell them you have a "Phased Plasma Rifle in the 40W Range".

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: infolurker

Because the sensible solution is to arm doctors, amirite?

Did that make sense to you before you posted it?

Honest question.

Arming untrained professionals? Nope. Neither does disarming trained citizens. That was my point; the AMA makes about as much sense as the NRA on this subject.

a reply to: projectvxn

Well, technically the FMJ is not, as you state, considered "armor piercing" in the very most technical of senses. It is, however, generally (incorrectly) labeled as 'armor piercing' by many because it will pierce armor, especially steel core FMJ rounds (which much of the Russian ammo is).

The military does indeed use FMJ in response to the Hague and Geneva conventions for combat. However, the larger reasoning is FMJ ammunition 'wounds' whereas hollow point ammunition kills. On the battlefield, a wounded soldier is a bigger resource liability than a dead one. A wounded soldier takes 3-4 soldiers out of the fight, whereas a dead soldier takes only one.

a reply to: infolurker

How about they rein in their doctors. Close to 90,000 people a year die of malpractice, incorrect diagnosis, errant medical procedures, surgery gone sideways, bad advice, incorrect medication/prescriptions, etc. People in glass houses eh, they kill way more people, they should STFU and clean house.

Cheers - Dave

originally posted by: infolurker
Yay. That wondrous organization that bribes... I mean petitions congress to limit the supply of Doctors and limit residencies in order to keep prices high and make sure there is a shortage of specialist wants to Ban your means of self defense. In this round of lunacy, the organization wants to ban any "armor piercing" round... which means almost all rifle rounds.




AMA crazy

On Wednesday, the American Medical Association approved an expansive list of “common-sense” demands for new gun control measures, including proposals to ban the sale and possession of “all assault-type weapons, bump stocks and related devices, high-capacity magazines, and armor piercing bullets.” These gun control guidelines were approved by the AMA’s House of Delegates, a forum of the medical organization’s member physicians that meets twice a year to vote on medical and political policy recommendations.

The lengthy list of gun policy changes also includes bans on the sale of firearms and ammunition to those under 21 years of age, prohibitions on the ownership and unsupervised use of firearms by those under 21, and the establishment of a national gun registry for all firearms and a gun licensing system for gun owners.

More worryingly, because there is no definition of what qualifies as an “armor piercing bullet,” the AMA’s proposals can be reasonably interpreted as a call for banning practically every type of rifle ammunition in existence given that (with the exception of extremely small calibers like .22 LR) almost all rifle rounds can pierce Kevlar-based body armor, the standard type of ballistic protection used by law enforcement agencies worldwide. Thus, if Congress or any other legislative body actually followed through on the AMA’s vague proposal, everything from smaller rifle calibers like .223 and .243 Winchester all the way through other common hunting rifle rounds like .270 Win., .30-06, .308 Win., or .444 Marlin could be banned and confiscated en-masse by the government.

In other news related to the dubious, the NRA is now conducting first round trials to test a new compound that MAY cure cancer.

See how that works CDC, AMA et al? Let’s just all stick to what we know okay?

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

No, the bully types avoid corrections like the plague! Why?

Because inmates fight back!! Grandma Public doesn't.

You and I rarely agree on things, but I will agree with you on the blurring of distinction between police and military. This is true. Police forces over the past three decades have become increasingly more militarized...and sadly, there's an attitude to go with that. Some argue the reason for this is the bad guys have gotten more dangerous, but this is just a ruse. Al Capone, among others, was a pretty bad cat back in his day and police didn't need armored personnel carriers and full-on military outfitting then.

a reply to: infolurker

Advocating to receive more rape victims are they, weirdos.

I remember this one time when I was a kid. I was at my family doctor (which used to be a thing) everything was going fine then all of the sudden he told me to pull down my shorts and underwear. I proceeded, thinking he was on the up and up, he then grasped my balls with his cold hand and wanted me to pretend to be sick. What kinda twisted person gets theirs kicks from that. Haven't trusted them since.

a reply to: projectvxn

Depends on your definition of armor plating. I have easily punched holes in 3/16" plate steel at 150 feet with an AR 5.56 FMJ. If you consider armor plate to be 2" thick hardened steel you would be right but as I said, depends on your definition of armor.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

And the officers beat them with clubs and throw them in the hole. Not a job for pansies afraid to take a hit or two.

The escalation went off de charts after 9/11, and the county boys around here have an olive drab outfit they seem to all wear on certain days and they turn into total psycho jobs when they pull it on.

NEVER tell a doctor you own a gun.

its none of there business and could cause you to lose your guns due to there fault if they give you the wrong meds and cause you to become depressed.

more than 200 commonly used prescription drugs have depression or suicide listed as potential side effects. The types of medications include hormonal birth control medications, blood pressure and heart medications, proton pump inhibitors, antacids and painkillers.

www.cnbc.com...

Great idea AMA. So after gun ownership becomes illegal and school shootings continue they'll be forced to admit that drugging up teenagers on antidepressants are actually the root cause.

Mind you, who founded the AMA?

a reply to: CharlesT

Nothing you have in fmj will penetrate 1/4 inch AR500 steel armor or NIJIII+ and above rifle plating.

a reply to: infolurker

It must be nice, for the AMA to live in such a fairy tale world where they're the end-all, be-all of firearm legislation. This isn't going to float, at all. Stick to your shady practices AMA and leave law abiding gun owners alone.

a reply to: infolurker


The more people are shot, the more money doctors earn.

Is the AMA now Anti-Physician?!?!

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

So then Corrections isnt the number one job scene that inherently draws sadistic bully types that like to subjugate and beat people?

Since I live in a prison town that has the main institution based here, and family who, since retired, worked in corrections for twenty years, and I know several dozen officers, both current and retired... I can safely say that the BS you just tried to pass off, is in fact, BS.

Are there sadists who enjoy the opportunity to do that, of course, just like in any other occupation of that nature. But, attempting to say that they're all, or most, like that is, as I just said, BS.

Those people are generally removed from contact with the prisoners and placed elsewhere. Would you like to know why, or are you going to pretend you know the answer??

Here's a hint. It has to do with the safety of the other officers who are in close proximity to the prison population.

So, as I said, before you get all holier than thou about a topic, it might help to know a bit about it first.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

No, the bully types avoid corrections like the plague! Why?

Because inmates fight back!! Grandma Public doesn't.

That's one reason, but not the main one. The other officers are the reason many don't last very long. When I'd pick up my sister, or one of my friends, who worked there over the years, I lost count of the number of "conversations" taking place in the staff parking lot, that I witnessed. Many directly related to idiots thinking they're the Big Dick on the hill. It was generally pointed out, sometimes with great enthusiasm, that, in fact, they were not the Big Dick.

Others related to some, thankfully very few, who got too close to the prisoners and were, shall we say, corrupted.