A Simple Question For Californians

I was just watching a short video at :
California Split

And a question crossed my mind.

What do you do if the two "new states" are not admitted to the union? And how long can you hold out until it is admitted?

Just because a state decides to become two or three separate states does not automatically put more stars on the flag. Plus there will be a lot of new bureaucratic stuff to be taken care of for the recognition of these "new citizens" of these "new states". You would think a lot of this stuff would come about by the simple flip of a switch, but I will bet you a good payday it will not be quite so simple.

This could be something to think about.

The upper part will do fine if they split off. So will the lower part. The Los Angeles and related part, as soon as the big companies there get sick of their attitude and exravagant taxes, they will move and that area will turn into a slum. Hollywood will eventually leave that area to go to a more affordable area.

a reply to: tinymind

Although voted most likely to secede, it'll never happen.

Didn't The Civil War answer the question if states can leave the Union?

a reply to: tinymind

Also,
What if one of the new States decides they want to have a socialist or communist govt. Would they even be allowed to enter the US as a State?

The whole thing just opens a big can of worms.

a reply to: tinymind

This concerns me.
Brown,Pelosi and Waters already got there fingers on to much. Why give more?

Where California now has two seats in the 100-person U.S. Senate, the three states would have six seats in a 104-member chamber. That would dilute the power of other states and increase the power of what used to be a single state if its six senators banded together on various issues.

www.latimes.com...

I use to think in a delusional way that letting California go completely would remove unwanted politicians from Washington D.C.. this break up could give them more people and power in Washington D.C..

I am against States in general, so even if California splits (which I don't believe it will) it will not make me change or alter my views

a reply to: tinymind
If the militant Californians tried to follow through their 2017 threats of secession, then the "West Virginia" precedent might be opened up. That is, part of the state could secede from the seceders and be allowed back into the Union separately.

Why would California be allowed to secede and/or split? No one else was ever allowed.

We already fought a war over that. You want another one?

In a state where they've criminalized most forms of gun ownership?

Californians are f# retarded.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO FIGHT BACK WHEN "THEY" SAY NO?

Idiots.

originally posted by: NthOther
Why would California be allowed to secede and/or split? No one else was ever allowed.

They're permitted to if 3/4s of the other states vote 'yes' on the proposal, it's in the Constitution.

I really think California will go bankrupt before it splits up. They say their the biggest economy, but if they have to pay pensions as it now stands, they will collapse. There's simply too much make believe there. And the immigrants suck every crumb that falls and pay minimum.

I lived there 50 years. There was a time it was nice. The 50's and 60', and even into the early 80's, but it's blight now.

Evidence.... ? Try driving from Newport Pier to LA, Barstow or San Bernardino. For that matter anywhere. And it has become more and more like TJ. I have NO desire for anything California.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

They won't.

originally posted by: tinymind
What do you do if the two "new states" are not admitted to the union? And how long can you hold out until it is admitted?

A state is still a state even if they claim otherwise. Will I join a revolutionary army to fight for my "freedom?" No thanks.

a reply to: tinymind

K. Before anyone that isn’t on their really tall horses already begins to tell us out here in the Golden State how much we all blow and how crazy everything is, how about y’all read the title and chill the F out....

Love from Cali

a reply to: rickymouse

My guess: Oregon.

Congress can approve a SPLIT. Secession is a whole nother issue.

a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

Yeah, but this time there would be a war to keep them out.

a reply to: tinymind
Only if the governor finds a way to make money out of it, cause right now they are billions in the hole...

not that i think it is likely to suceede but if it does get split into 3 states it screws the dems for presidential elections ,55 sure blue votes get split into 3 parts. nor cal is predominately red the bay blue and so cal mostly red as well . would add 3 new senators but not sure how it would effect the house

originally posted by: RalagaNarHallas
would add 3 new senators but not sure how it would effect the house

It would add 4 new Senators and not effect the House as that is based on population.

a reply to: rickymouse

Absolutely.

Couple that with the fact that, right now, the majority of what would be New California's water supply is piped in from what would be South California, they may have a big problem with water cost and guaranteed water supply--a VERY big problem.


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If this happens, I would love to see the San Joaquin Valley (South California) re-assert rights over that water that should be staying in the Central Valley for the massive amounts of farmland in that area, along with what used to be (and could be again) the ecosystems that used to thrive in the wetter environment. I grew up in Bakersfield (the crotch of the SJV), and when it was originally settled, it was basically a marsh land as the water from the Kern River and other tributaries fed that area of the valley with plenty of water.

Now Bakersfield is nearly indiscernible as you look out from Panorama Drive from the Mojave Desert as you come down from Tehachapi on Hwy58 heading East.