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originally posted by: toysforadults
let me tell you why
A. white people are sick of being blamed for everyones problems
B. the Democratic leadership sound like they have LOST THEIR MINDS
C. their message is anti Trump and nothing else really
D. they screwed Bernie and then recently changed their charter so they can rule out whoever they want
what do you think guys can we hit Z??
originally posted by: Serdgiam
I do appreciate the message there.. but, personally, I dislike the idea of letting the concept of "liberalism" be corrupted and co-opted like so many other facets of language.
So, instead of saying I am no longer Liberal, I much prefer to call this group what they are: Statists.
I actually feel its an important distinction since most who identify as the modern left, even if only in action (they have an odd habit of perceiving themselves as centrists), are about as far from liberal as one can get.
Maybe I'm just stubborn..
originally posted by: Serdgiam
I do appreciate the message there.. but, personally, I dislike the idea of letting the concept of "liberalism" be corrupted and co-opted like so many other facets of language.
So, instead of saying I am no longer Liberal, I much prefer to call this group what they are: Statists.
I actually feel its an important distinction since most who identify as the modern left, even if only in action (they have an odd habit of perceiving themselves as centrists), are about as far from liberal as one can get.
Maybe I'm just stubborn..
originally posted by: infolurker
originally posted by: Serdgiam
I do appreciate the message there.. but, personally, I dislike the idea of letting the concept of "liberalism" be corrupted and co-opted like so many other facets of language.
So, instead of saying I am no longer Liberal, I much prefer to call this group what they are: Statists.
I actually feel its an important distinction since most who identify as the modern left, even if only in action (they have an odd habit of perceiving themselves as centrists), are about as far from liberal as one can get.
Maybe I'm just stubborn..
I agree with you 100%.
I also try not to use "Liberal" when talking about Statist Progressives. I more associate liberal with libertarians personally.
originally posted by: Serdgiam
I do appreciate the message there.. but, personally, I dislike the idea of letting the concept of "liberalism" be corrupted and co-opted like so many other facets of language.
So, instead of saying I am no longer Liberal, I much prefer to call this group what they are: Statists.
I actually feel its an important distinction since most who identify as the modern left, even if only in action (they have an odd habit of perceiving themselves as centrists), are about as far from liberal as one can get.
Maybe I'm just stubborn..