School Safety Commission will not look at role of guns.

As with the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal, a creature is so mind-bogglingly stupid that it assumes that if one cannot see it, then it cannot see said person, Betsy DeVose continues to hide her head under a towel in an effort to not directly deal with the obvious conundrum of recognition that guns DO play a rather largish part in school shootings by completely avoiding the topic.

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"Will your commission look at the role of firearms as it relates to gun violence in our schools?" Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) asked DeVos.

"That is not part of the commission's charge, per se," DeVos responded.

While the word 'guns' and 'control' are a hot button topic when mentioned in the same sentence, the topic does need to be discussed. Ignoring it will not make it go away - as we've seen in vivid detail there will be those that will commit these atrocities for numerous reasons, be it revenge, or fame, Pandora's box is open.

The idea that the safety commission will not look into the role guns play is even more bewildering in that DeVos set up the commission in the shadow of the Parkland shooting.

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There are obviously many facets to ensure safety in the school systems, but ignoring the obvious will not bring results.

School is the problem. Not guns.
No school.
No school shootings.

a reply to: Speedtek

Looking in to bullying and mental health would do more good than anything else. Guns don't go off without a human pulling the trigger. Better to address the cause than the tool used.

a reply to: Speedtek

This is how the government and commissions are supposed to operate, though. I have no idea where the hell this idea that we need so many chefs on each dish came from, but it's been part of the overall problem for quite some time. Commissions on school violence shouldn't be looking at overreaching issues of firearms in society any more than commissions on agriculture should be looking at the health care issues. The commission is assigned a very simple task... Figure out how to make schools safer, ceteris paribus, focusing purely on what YOU IN THE EDUCATION SYSTEM can do. That is absolutely how we get results here (although admittedly not the results you're looking for, which are appeasement of the firearmophobes). By narrowing the focus down to strictly issues within the authority and jurisdiction of the education system, the commission will come up with answers that don't rely on pie-in-the-sky tomfoolery requiring multiple legal steps outside of the education system's purview prior to their internal plans coming to light. They've basically been told a very strong truth to start their discussion firearms are a fact of life, they're not going anywhere, so figure out a system that improves safety given that unalterable reality.

a reply to: Metallicus

Guns don't go off without a human pulling the trigger.

Unless you're a dancing backflipping FBI agent.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Metallicus

Guns don't go off without a human pulling the trigger.

Unless you're a dancing backflipping FBI agent.

If you watched the video the moron absolutely pulled the trigger.

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Metallicus

Guns don't go off without a human pulling the trigger.

Unless you're a dancing backflipping FBI agent.

If you watched the video the moron absolutely pulled the trigger.

sure did. pull trigger, gun fires... quit driving students over the edge with with today's horrible school system

Why should the commission need to examine the role of guns? That doesn't take a genius. Someone gets profoundly disturbed, gets a gun, and then it becomes patently obvious how that works out. That is the least mysterious part of it all.

What the commission needs to examine is why the student gets to the point of picking up the gun and whether or not the school can play a role in preventing that in any meaningful way.

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: Speedtek

Looking in to bullying and mental health would do more good than anything else. Guns don't go off without a human pulling the trigger. Better to address the cause than the tool used.

Piss off with your logic - this has NOTHING to do with protecting kids in schools, or gays in nightclubs or pedestrians taking a walk - this is about deconstructing the 2A so that government has guns and civilians do not.

Kids are simply the propaganda fodder - the fact that this commission is 'schools' orientated proves my point.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Well, of course, but we all need our pretty little fictions.

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Metallicus

Guns don't go off without a human pulling the trigger.

Unless you're a dancing backflipping FBI agent.

If you watched the video the moron absolutely pulled the trigger.

It's hard to tell. What do they call it? A hair trigger?

originally posted by: Sookiechacha


It's hard to tell. What do they call it? A hair trigger?

Do you even know what that means?

a reply to: watchitburn


I think it means a trigger that's extremely sensitive?

Yep. Looked it up:

hair trig·ger
[ˈhe(ə)r ˈˌtriɡər]

NOUN
a trigger of a firearm set for release at the slightest pressure.
(hair-trigger)
liable to change suddenly and violently.
"a hair-trigger temper"

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Metallicus

Guns don't go off without a human pulling the trigger.

Unless you're a dancing backflipping FBI agent.

If you watched the video the moron absolutely pulled the trigger.

It's hard to tell. What do they call it? A hair trigger?

no, just a trigger. they can have different pull weights, and are very adjustable, but in the end, you have to pull the trigger for a gun to fire. It's a mechanical thing. If you need more clarification, just ask.

a reply to: network dude

Thanks for "mansplaining" that to me!

New Handgun Chosen by U.S. Army Goes Off If Dropped
Sig Sauer claimed that the gun had been extensively drop tested, but a report emerged that a Connecticut police officer had been injured by his P320 after it had been dropped while in his holster. That officer has now filed a $7 million lawsuit against Sig Sauer, alleging that the gun has an defective safety mechanism. Last week the Dallas Police Department suspended use of the P320 citing drop test concerns. Gun blogger Andrew Tuohy, in a video for gun retailer Omaha Outdoors, drop tested several versions of the Sig P320 and discovered all but one version would fire if dropped tail-first. Here's the video

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Carney said a preliminary investigation revealed that Richard Lee Cooper, 47, and wife Barbara Annette Masters, 48, were sitting in the restaurant’s dining area when Masters leaned forward and a the gun fell out of her pocket and hit the floor.
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Guns are already banned from school property. Congress did that with the Gun-Free Schools Zone Act of 1990.

What more needs to be done? It's already illegal to have a gun within 1000' of a school.

Are you suggesting that banning things instead of addressing the root issues is the solution?

originally posted by: cynicalheathen
Guns are already banned from school property. Congress did that with the Gun-Free Schools Zone Act of 1990.

What more needs to be done? It's already illegal to have a gun within 1000' of a school.

Are you suggesting that banning things instead of addressing the root issues is the solution?

Nobody is suggesting banning anything, but a blanket "meh" about discussing the topic is antithesis of deny ignorance. There are other ways to prevent guns from getting into the wrong hands or into the school itself. How about contributing to the topic in that way?

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Metallicus

Guns don't go off without a human pulling the trigger.

Unless you're a dancing backflipping FBI agent.

If you watched the video the moron absolutely pulled the trigger.

It's hard to tell. What do they call it? A hair trigger?

They call that a Negligent Discharge.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Did you not notice the delay between it firing and falling, it went off as he grabbed it, not when it hit the ground.

So for him to be mansplaining it must mean you don't believe a woman could possibly know anything about firearms?

and no more clueless / brain dead people spewing their trash philosophy all over because they "think" they are educated